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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
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Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

580.0. "A Leslie effects device?" by TOPDOC::W_JOHNSON () Tue Nov 25 1986 08:51

    
    I've heard rumours about a little box that will create a Leslie
    effect for keys. Does anybody know anything about such an effect?
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580.1Or some LFO mod....JAWS::COTEProne to absurdity...Tue Nov 25 1986 08:573
    Phase shifter.
    
    Edd
580.2Dynacord?NIMBUS::DAVISTue Nov 25 1986 08:599
    I saw a review, I think it was in Electronic Musician, of an effect
    made by Dynacord. Very favorable review, but it was not a "little
    box" in terms of price. Can't remember the exact price, but I do
    remember being surprised at the bottom line. Maybe somewhere in
    the $500 range. Of course compared to a real Leslie, and the doctor
    bills you would probably incur lugging such a beast around, maybe
    that isn't so horrible.
    
    Rob
580.3That's The OneDRUMS::FEHSKENSTue Nov 25 1986 09:2813
    Yeah, that's the one.  I remember the Keyboard review, and it's
    mentioned in the downbeat article on T. Lavitz.  You're right about
    the price too, I also remember being surprised that they would think
    anyone but a handful of people would be willing to pay that much
    just to get a Leslie effect.
    
    This box goes to some length to reproduce the Leslie's behaviour,
    even to the point of smoothly speeding up and slowing down the
    "warble rate" to simulate the Leslie's motor's inertia when you
    change speeds!
    
    len.
    
580.4re .1TOPDOC::W_JOHNSONTue Nov 25 1986 10:552
    I'm looking for a little bit more than a phase shifter.
    
580.5thanks for the infoTOPDOC::W_JOHNSONTue Nov 25 1986 10:583
    Thanks for the info. Yeah, I'd have to agree that $500 is a bit
    much to shell out for a Leslie effect. I guess I was hoping it'd
    be more like $100 or so. thanks again.
580.6They do exist...BARNUM::RHODESTue Nov 25 1986 15:306
A friend of mine has a "rotating speaker" effects box (stereo even) for under
$100.  I forget who makes it, but they are available.  I have heard it, and 
it sounds great on organ sounds...

Todd.

580.7Lots of good options:COROT::CERTOTue Nov 25 1986 18:3629
    The guys in my old band used to lust after the Leslie sound, 
    there are several options:
    
    There's a 'little box' called Little David that does it, it is
    brown or wood grain and is about the size of a kleenex box 
    standing on end.  Last time I saw one was at Daddy's Boston.
    
    There's a rotating speaker unit available from Paia that they
    swear is great, thats probably what -1 is referring to. 
                        
    There's a unit which is essentially 'half a Leslie' available from
    MTI (Musical Technology, same people that distribute Crumar).
    It consists of a rotating treble horn; for use in addition to your
    normal speaker setup.  A real leslie has a spinning bass horn too.
    This unit sounds very nice and is much more portable too.
    
    A digital delay with an LFO does a fair job of approximating
    the doppler shift effect.  The SPX-90 has a patch that sounds
    like it would be great; the LFO waveform seems to be specificaly 
    designed for this; but I haven't heard an organ through it yet.
                     
    Phase Shifters and Chorus sound wonderful and full on organ, but
    they're different than a Leslie sound, in my opinion.
                                   
    By the way, my organ has a vibrato and tremolo, both with variable
    depth, and both on a single LFO with special waveform, and it 
    simulates a Leslie quite nicely.
              
    Fredric
580.8How to get the Clapton soundMINDER::KENTWed Nov 26 1986 05:0912
    
    Yep
    
    Whenever I use the old Hammond sound on the Cx5 I put it through A
    digital delay with just a touch of time delay, full feedback and
    a smidgeon of LFO depth. You can then simulate the leslie speeding up
    and slowing down with the LFO rate nob on the DDL. It's as close
    to th real thing as I can get up the ladders into my studio in the
    "loft".                
    
    			   Paul.
    
580.9Full Rotor boxFGVAXU::LAINGTue Dec 02 1986 10:5712
    A few years back, I bought a box called 'FullRotor' from Multivox.
    It cost about $125 and did a decent job of imitating a Leslie. 
    It had the 'speed-up/slow-down' effect which made it more realistic.
    
    I wish I'd hung on to it; I sold it when I bought a kybd that had
    LEslie simulation built-in.  Now, I can't get rid of that kybd since
    I rely on it's good Leslie/organ combination.  
    
                       -Jim
    
    P.S. Daddy's Nashua, a few months back, had one of these (RullRotor)
    used, I think ...
580.11no way Tom.JON::ROSSBOZONICSTue Dec 02 1986 19:0114
    
    A totally Objective viewpoint:
    
    A PAIA SYNTHASPIN IS NOT A LESLIE.
        
    I own both. My Leslie is an H20...5 feet high.

    My syntaspin is gathering dust. Its a nifty unique
    and usable effect,(with some modifications, which
    Ive made), but it isnt close to a leslie.

    Hey,make me an offer.
	ron
        
580.12' Little David revisited'BARNUM::RENEThe world IS a continuous function Tue Mar 03 1987 08:0323
    
           I've been looking for such a device for since I sold my Yamaha
    SK-15 which had built-in leslie simulation. I just recently bought
    a little box called the "Little David" by Multivox which was mentioned
    earlier in this note. At first sight it looks just like a scaled
    down leslie.... varnished wood grain cabinet with slits...just
    like the real thing ! only its about the size of a sixpack of your
    favorite brew. It has depth and speed control as well as fast/slow
    via footswitch with speed up/slow down transition. I compared it
    with a leslie pro 860 (portable version) and it sounded as good
    or better. 
            The thing appears to have a band-reject frequency response
    so that the lower frequencies tend to have more of an amplitude
    modulation while the higher frequencies tend to have pitch modulation.
    The mids are filtered somewhat. Thinking about it, this is probably
    trying to reproduce the effect of the spinning drum (bottom) and
    the spinning horns(top) of the Leslie.
    
          I'm impressed. It looks like Multivox had put a lot of effort
    into this device.....not just LFO modulation......
    
    Frank