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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

551.0. "What Is A String/Synth 'Pad'?" by AKOV68::EATON (PERSONAL_NAME="string") Fri Oct 24 1986 10:07

    	Just a quick one...
    
    	I hear the term 'pad' used in relation to synth patches or programs
    quite often.  Would someone please explain what this means with,
    perhaps, some examples of its use?
    
    	Dan
    
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551.1If It's Padded It Ain't Real...ERLANG::FEHSKENSFri Oct 24 1986 10:5615
    Generally (I'm inferring from my own experience, I have never seen
    this term defined or its origin explained) "pad" patches are soft
    ethereal kinds of things.  They have slow attacks, dense textures
    with a lot of "internal motion", "soft edges", sort of like the
    pads on cats' paws.  They make nice background fillers (to "pad
    out" the overall sound?) and provide thickness to the overall sound
    without intruding or calling attention to themselves.   They typically
    sound like they're drenched in chorus and reverb.  The generic formula
    includes triangle waveforms (very sine-like), filter closed way
    down, slow attack and release on the EGs, moderate amounts of detune
    on paired oscillators, no sync, stacking of voices in the patches,
    etc..  Think thick, slow, quiet, soft.
    
    len.
    
551.2throw a towel over it,pabloJON::ROSSBOZONICSFri Oct 24 1986 22:239
    To me Pad is usually background chord accomp.
    Dont know where the term came from.

    My favorite terms are "vamp" and "comp".
    
    Any guesses?
    
	ron
    
551.3Back from vacation...CANYON::MOELLERSWS,where the rubber meets the roadTue Nov 04 1986 16:2612
    Back when I was an honest-to-God PAID Studio Musician, we first
    used to lay down the 'bed', which was the original rhythm trax,
    usually drums, bass, acoustic guitar, and piano. Then after the
    guitar leads and, occasionally Clap Choir (this was before synthoclaps)
    I would play the String Pad. So I would lay a Pad on the Bed...
    
    As Len and Ron said, the Pad was usually a sustained smooth sound
    that followed the chord changes. At first I played full chords,
    but later became adept at using 4 separate lines on 4 separate tracks.
    I think I learned this about age 27.
    
    k moeller
551.4I ask you that to ask you this...AKOV68::EATONPERSONAL_NAME="string"Wed Nov 05 1986 08:416
    	Thanks, all, for the info.
    
    	Now in the mix, would this Pad be 'buried' or would you really
    be able to distinguish it from the rest?
    
    	Dan
551.5Come on, guys, dintcha see the other question?AKOV68::EATONPERSONAL_NAME="string"Thu Nov 13 1986 11:321
    
551.6Any My Hands Never Left My Wrists...DRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Nov 13 1986 13:0712
    You begging for examples?  Or asking about prominence in the mix?
    
    I can't give you any "real life" examples off the top of my head
    (too hairy, huh?).
    
    Re prominence in the mix; well, not totally up front, but not
    "buried" either.  Sort of in the background, so you don't notice
    it unless you listen for it, but if it wasn't there you'd complain
    about something missing.
    
    len.
    
551.7Thanks, LenAKOV68::EATONPERSONAL_NAME="string"Thu Nov 13 1986 15:368
    	That was what I was looking for.
    
    	I'm thinking of a time (the only time) I was recording in a
    studio.  We had laid down the basic track (the bed?) and the producer
    told me to go out on the keyboard and just hold down the basic chords
    as they progressed.  It sounds to me like that was a 'pad'.  In
    the final mix it was not noticable, but added real depth to the
    overall picture.  Have I got that right?
551.8Aw, Shucks, It Was Nothin'DRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Nov 13 1986 15:586
    Sounds good.  I'm just making this up as I go along...
    
    I learned that from Tom, last year sometime.
    
    len.
    
551.9Are Pads for Today?STOHUB::TRIGG::EATONTue Feb 26 1991 11:4610
	Since Brian opened a topic on pad voicing, a thought occurred to me (it
doesn't happen often, so I'm recrding it here for posterity).  Rather than vear
that topic off on a tangent, I thought I'd ask about usage here.

	Are pads still used today in popular music?  I mean, the trend in 
recordings lately seems to be more of a live sound, "in your face", as it were.
Do pads still fit or do they dilute that vitality and excitement that recordings
seem to be grasping for?

	Dan
551.10My concept of "pads"DREGS::BLICKSTEINI'll have 2 all-u-can-eat plattersTue Feb 26 1991 13:3923
    > Are pads still used today in popular music?
    
    Moreso than ever.
    
    > Do pads still fit or do they dilute that vitality and excitement that
    > recordings seem to be grasping for?
    
    I don't view them as having any effect on the "vitality and excitement"
    of recordings.  They mainly give you a fuller sound.  In fact, I think
    they are used almost like a psycho-acoustic effect.  You probably
    wouldn't know they were there unless you listened for them.
    
    I used pads (although somewhat unconventional pads - i.e. not strings,
    "ahh" sounds, etc.) in a few places in "The Low Calorie Blues" (on 
    COMMUSIC VII) where I felt the sound was kinda thin.
    
    There's some under the organ solo (after the fast riff) and there's
    just a sorta flat "bass pad" to fill in the bottom end on the ending
    of the song.
    
    They are actually fairly loud in the mix, but they blend in behind
    things so you don't really "hear" them.