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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
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416.0. "Karl Moeller's Visit North (KMIDI Jam 86)" by MENTOR::COTE (Huminuh, huminuh...) Wed Jul 02 1986 09:37

    ... what with Mull Karler comin' up from Cowboy country and all,
    it seems like KMIDI-Jam '86 is a great idea!
    
    Anyone wanna put a little planning into such an event? Would be
    a shame to see everyone show up and put on nothing more than a hardware
    show. (Don't get me wrong, I LIKE hardware shows!)
    
    Any ideas, suggestions, flames????
    
    Edd
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416.1Ok, I'll go first....MENTOR::COTEWucka, wucka, wucka...Wed Jul 02 1986 13:4620
    ...stuff like...
    
           Should we record this event?
           Who runs the board?
           Who makes sandwiches?
           Who plays what?
    
               Len F. on drums
               KMsquared on big piano
               Dave DReher on axenhiemer
               Ellen Midiwife on lungs
               Eric Clapton on ukelele ("Hi, Eric!")
               Quasimoto on bell
               ect...
    
    Or shall we play it by ear?
    
    Edd
    
    trivia: Where's the quote from?
416.2Koell Marler is comin' to townBARNUM::RHODESWed Jul 02 1986 14:5321
    I'd be delighted to lend a hand on percussives.  I wouldn't even
    mind packing up the Simmons.  Maybe we could midi them to Len's
    TR707 via his DRUMSLAVE, and midi the octapad to the TR727, and
    then maybe we could..... stop me please)())&*^^^#@#*()())($#%$%!$%@(#*$&*
    %EXCOVRLOD - EXCITEMENT OVERLOAD.  PLEASE REBOOT.
    
    Any good lyricists out there who want to develop some apriori lyrics
    that we can design the music around?  (For the MIDIWIFE, of course.)
    
    Maybe we should just play it by ear - Spend some time socializing,
    and then bang a few tunes out to tape.
    
    
    Is it definitely gonna happen?  Will it be at DD's house?  Will
    it be on Saturday August 9th?  Who's gonna attend (a new topic for
    attendees?)
    
    Todd.
    
    
    
416.3The Next Big Step?ERLANG::FEHSKENSWed Jul 02 1986 14:545
    Such an auspicious event clearly requires VIDEO!  Let's make a noter's
    COMMUSIC video!
    
    len (who has, thank the muse, NO video gear).
    
416.4exitBARTOK::ARNOLDJohn E. ArnoldWed Jul 02 1986 15:0316
    About .1,
    
    the reference is to a song by the Bonzo Dog Band.  I can't remember
    the name, I'll have to dig up the casette tonight and find it. 
    It's probably right next to my pink half of the drainpipe.
    
    To get back on the subject, I'd also be interested in the COM JAM.
    I'll bring my amp and a few guitars (not that I'm Steve Howe mind
    you).  You just never know when you'll need a bass guitar since
    we all know that real musicians either sing, play keyboards, play
    guitar, or play drums.  (There I've proably offended everyone now.)
    
    Let's it "COMMUSICations Breakdown"  or is that the name for the
    COMMUSIC II tape.
    
    - John -
416.5CANYON::MOELLERDEC had it but now it's on TPLWed Jul 02 1986 15:185
    NO! NO VIDEO !
    
    ...my hair's a mess and this is my oldest skirt...
    
    everything else sounds just fine.
416.6You must be real old (too).MENTOR::COTEWucka, wucka, wucka...Wed Jul 02 1986 15:575
    Jeez, I didn't think anyone would get that one... Clap, clap, clap
    
    Back to business.
    
    Edd
416.7A Slight DifressionBARTOK::ARNOLDJohn E. ArnoldWed Jul 02 1986 16:2423
    Does 28 count as old?  I keep trying to convince myself that it
    doesn't.
    
    The only reason I knew it was because of one of my friend's incredibly
    eclectic record collection and afanaticism.  He is a quintessential
    collector.  If he likes one album a group puts out, he'll by them all
    in search of elusive gems and unreleased B-sides.  We used to drive
    around on weekends looking for parties while listening to tapes of
    groups such as the Bonzo Dog Band, 10cc (a particular favorite was "I
    Pity Inanimate Objects"), etc.  Another hobby was going to "the
    Steakout" (a definitely non-Yuppie bar in Westborough) and playing
    bizarre B-sides on the jukebox while wasting as much money on pinball
    as humanly possible.  Our greatest revenge was actually playing a song
    enough that other's would end up playing it too.  (This actually
    happened with Hard-hearted Hannah or one of those other weird George
    Harrison singles!) 
    
    But I digress... back to work.
    
    - John -
    
    P.S.  Talking about fanatical, come on.  Keith Emerson had his Hammond
    	  C-3 MIDI'd !
416.8Oh, I broke a nailBARNUM::RHODESWed Jul 02 1986 16:536
    KMII in a dress on video?  That's marketing.  We'll all be millionares.
    
    Wendy Carlos - eat you're heart out.
    
    Todd.
    
416.9toyco super videomatic?BARNUM::RHODESWed Jul 02 1986 16:594
    Who's got the video equipment?
    
    Todd. (who_thinks_he_knows_how_to_spell_"your"_in_-.1)
    
416.10"...you're so far away..."SSDEVO::MCCOLLUMWed Jul 02 1986 16:598
    Gee guys, I feel left out. Why don't you guys have your jam in scenic
    Colorado Springs so that I can be there. We can entertain the Big
    Horn Sheep.
    
    If anybody knows any B-52's guitar licks, I can do the synth noises.
    
    Rock Lobster
    
416.11A vote for planning. Who wants to play Quincy Jones?DAIRY::SHARPOh no! Not another Don Sharp clone!Wed Jul 02 1986 17:1412
The song was Intros and Outros, I can't remember the album it came from.

               Eric Clapton on ukelele ("Hi, Eric!")
               Quasimoto on bell
	       Adolf Hitler on triangle (ding!) nice....

Planning is definitely in order. If KMII wants to send some charts out ahead
of time we could all learn our parts, otherwise let's try to agree on some
top of the pops hits we all sort of know so we can at least get the lyrics
written down, and we can try to work out the arrangements on the fly.

Don.
416.12Learn this or DIE!MENTOR::COTEWucka, wucka, wucka...Wed Jul 02 1986 18:0210
    This is serious...
    
    I've heard Midiwife, and she can do this, I'm sure...
    
    I wanna do "Borderline" by Madonna. It's easy, fun, and very
    gratifying.
    
    Do this one little thing for me.
    
    Edd
416.13Music Video !COROT::CERTOWed Jul 02 1986 18:377
    
    Maybe we'll wind up on MTV!  I've got the Lights, Camera, let's
    have some Action!  When and where is this affair?
    
    Fredric
                                                             
    DVINCI::CERTO
416.14Hear that 'Lizabeth, I'm comin' to join you honey!BARNUM::RHODESWed Jul 02 1986 18:409
    Yea, let's do Quincy Jones.  The theme from Sanford and Son is perfect.
    Who's got a good sax patch? :-)
    
    Seriously, I think we should do one top-fourtyish cover that we all know.
    This would also best fit the capabilities of the MIDIWIFE.  Edd's
    Modonna song is fine by me.  Can KM**2 do that one?
    
    Trodd Roads.
    
416.15CANYON::MOELLERDEC had it but now it's on TPLWed Jul 02 1986 18:534
    ...............................................................
    ...............................................................
    ...............................................................
    ....................think I have a Bar Miztvah to play that weekend.
416.16Come on baby, Cover MeCANYON::MOELLERDEC had it but now it's on TPLWed Jul 02 1986 18:553
    .................................................................
    .................... but, if I don't haveta buy a whole album....
    I'll try to work it up ..........................................
416.17and a tape of tune too, if ya wantMENTOR::COTEWucka, wucka, wucka...Wed Jul 02 1986 19:315
    I can send you a copy of the sheet music....
    
    Anyone notice Mr. Midiwife has been conspicuously silent? (^;
    
    Edd
416.18Quincy Jones replies...JUNIOR::DREHERWed Jul 02 1986 20:2157
    Okay, I'll attempt to be Quincy Jones...

    First of all, I want us all to have good time.  It will be nice to
    place faces with names.

    Secondly, I would like it to be a learning experience for those who
    don't have access to a studio with this type of gear.  Maybe a sort of
    show'n'tell of the equipment.

	    Ciriculum:

		A) How the board is set up and why.
		B) how the patch bay is wired and why.
		C) How the board interfaces with the tape deck.
		D) How the MIDI network is set up and why.
		E) How to sync sequencers and drum machines.
		F) How to synch to tape using PPQ and FSK.

    What I would like to avoid is 5 guitars, 3 drumsets, 6 keyboards, and
    2 basses all playing different things, out of tune and making a racket.
    The Jam section should be inspirational, yet controled.  I would also
    prefer it to based around synths, samplers, drum machines, electronic
    drums, etc.  More in line with this conference.

    It would also be nice to know who is coming and what they are bringing.
    If your planning on bringing a keyboard, sound module, or sampler,
    please:

		1) Bring 1 15' MIDI cord per module.
		2) Bring 1 15' Phono jack cord per sound module.

    Also an extra keyboard stand or two.
    An extra 6 input power outlet or two.
    Only one drum set, preferable electronic, as there is not enough room.
    A guitar amp or two.
    Your favorite AXE.
    Only one bass amp and cab is needed. 
    Any studio quality mics (AGK 414, SM-58, Sennhieser 441, EV RE-20, etc.)
	One or two will due.
    An expansion mixer (6 or 8 ch) for the extra keys is neccesary.
        I can plug it into the sub-ins on my board.

    Also, volunteers to bring some food and BYOB...
    The studio contains a bar but it needs to be stocked.

    All MIDI equipment will be patch in to the 4 in / 8 out MIDI patcher
    (programmable be MIDI of course).  This is the base MIDI system as it
    stands now:

		MIDI Patcher	TX7      Jupiter-6
		MKB-200         SBX-10   MC-500

    I have lots more room to expand the MIDI setup but now I'm limited
    on open tracks on the board.  I'll have only four inputs on the board
    available.  A submixer would help.  I wish I got a bigger board.

    DD
416.19MIDiot speaks outCANYON::MOELLERDEC had it but now it's on TPLWed Jul 02 1986 20:365
    Thank you DD for a note of organization and sanity. Not to mention
    what sounds like a good playing/recording environment. 
    
    karl moeller
    
416.20Anyone horny?MENTOR::COTEWucka, wucka, wucka...Thu Jul 03 1986 11:524
    Instead of 5 guitars, 9 drums, 27 synths ect, do we have any horn
    players? That would be nice!!!
    
    Edd
416.21Life on the RoadERLANG::BDBrian D. HandspickerTue Jul 08 1986 17:2211
    Well folks, I've been inconspiciously quiet for a long time.
    But, if you're going to have a gathering of the Chiefs, you'll
    need a couple of Indians to help out.
    
    Sounds like a lot of equipment to haul around. You're going to
    need some roadies. I'll happily volunteer.
    
    And if we can get a nice big smile from the guest of honor,
    I'll even hoist a video camera during the festivities.  ;^)
    
    BD
416.22hello? is this on?MENTOR::COTEShine up the battle apple...Thu Jul 10 1986 09:3512
    No action here for a couple days..... What gives?
    
    Who's bringing what?
    
    Who's comin' for that matter?
    
    Seein' as we have a volunteer roadie, I could concievably bring
    all 3 keyboards plus my 4 --> 2 mixer. Maybe also an extra set
    of feminine lungs for backup.
    
    
    Edd
416.23testing testing testing, 1 2 3...ERLANG::FEHSKENSThu Jul 10 1986 14:447
    I'm comin' - I can bring my Octapad and a USS 3 tier stand.  Maybe
    if it would be really useful I can bring my M216 (16 into 4 into
    2) board.  It's compatible with the M208 (sub mix ins to stereo
    buss).
    
    len.
    
416.246 rms, rv vwMENTOR::COTEYou're So Spontaneous...Thu Jul 10 1986 14:583
    Can I book space on the stand?
    
    Edd
416.25Attention LeonardBARNUM::RHODESFri Jul 11 1986 10:546
    Len, did you ever get your DDR-30 or should I bring my SDS-8?
    
    Todd. (who_also_has_a_DX100_that_has_a_continously_expanding_library_
    						of_percussion_patches)
    
    
416.26Sometimes I Wish I Played the FluteERLANG::FEHSKENSFri Jul 11 1986 11:507
    No DDR-30 yet (MC500 and JX-10 pushed their way in front of it),
    but I was planning on driving the 707/727 from the Octapad.  Bring
    the SDS-8 (brain and pads), I'll bring my cymbals so we can split
    the load.  I can bring my USS drumrack too.
    
    len.
    
416.27CANYON::MOELLERDonde esta los Blondes con Grande Chichi's?Fri Jul 11 1986 13:247
    Geez, Louise!
    
    With all the people and equipment... I'm gonna haveta walk on water
    or get flamed into oblivion, given the noter 'performance review'
    compulsion...
    
    karl
416.28I imagine you're gonna listen to US too!MENTOR::COTEWatch out where the Huskies go...Fri Jul 11 1986 13:313
    Aren't we all?
    
    bb3
416.29you mean it's not SOLID?CANYON::MOELLERand avoid the yellow snow.Fri Jul 11 1986 13:343
    re -1:
    
    'Aren't we all' what? Gonna walk on water?
416.30Instant reviews....MENTOR::COTEWatch out where the Huskies go...Fri Jul 11 1986 13:534
    "Aren't we all" gonna hafta walk on water? Now we find out who got
     chops!!                                  
    
     64h
416.31Roadie Backs DownERLANG::BDBrian D. HandspickerWed Jul 23 1986 16:3610
    I'm afraid my time on August 9th has been pre-empted.
    I've discovered that a bridal shower is to be held
    in my (well, actually OUR) honor sometime that day.
    I must graciously bow out of the KMII fete to protect
    various and sundry parts of my anatomy from fiancee 
    inflicted cruelty ;^).
    
    Apologies and Regrets to All
    
    bd
416.32There is another phrase for this...JAWS::COTEBarabajangle...Thu Jul 24 1986 09:293
    ...obviously a case of misplaced priorities.       ;^)
    
    Edd
416.33FURILO::GUESThave a look at RAINBW::ASKENET dailyThu Jul 24 1986 11:414
    Brian, the Guest of Honor hereby excuses you for having your priorities
    in order !
    
    karl moeller (GUESTing in MR03)
416.34Pardon from the Gov'ner!ERLANG::BDBrian D. HandspickerThu Jul 24 1986 15:137
    Whew! Thank you karl. I was afraid that after appearing once in the
    conference I would be forced back into ignominious silence.
    
    Please let me know if there are any other events (lunches, dinners,
    etc.). I'd be delighted to meet many of you ;^).     
    
    bd (Guest-in-residence at LKG)
416.35Isn't Framingham on the Cape?JAWS::COTEHow many people in your quartet?Tue Aug 05 1986 13:085
    Hey Dave!!!
    
    Like, where do you live mon? We are from needing directions!!
    
    Edd
416.36Directions...JUNIOR::DREHERMy first personal name...Fri Aug 08 1986 13:1336
	I've been on vacation this week, so I'm sorry I didn't post
	this earlier.  Well the KMIDI jam is tommorrow!  How time
	sneaks up on you.  All those who are planning to bring instru-
	ments - bring them except for amps.  I got enough here.  Also
	Len Fehskens is bringing a 16 ch. mixer for keyboards.
	Be sure to bring enough cords.  An extra keyboard stand or two
	would also be nice. 	

	There are two easy ways to get here.

	Mass Pike to Natick (Rt. 30) exit
	follow off ramp toward (Speen St. Natick)
	First set of lights, take a left. This is Speen St. You will
	see Ground Round restaraunt and Exxon station.
	Next set of lights - Take a right onto Old Connecticut Path
	Go over Mass Pike Bridge, Shell station on your right
	Take first right after Shell station onto Brownlea Road
	Take first right off Brownlea onto LaClede Ave.
	Take first left off LaClede onto Chouteau Ave.
	Follow all the way down until it intersects with LaSalle Ave.
	Our house is the white house on the left corner lot.
	# 47 LaSalle Avenue, park anywhere available
    

	Or take Rt. 9 to Speen St. Exit.
	follow toward Framingham, Rt. 30
	(there are Mass Pike signs, just follow until Rt. 30)
	Go straight through the lights
	2nd set of lights take a right (Old Connecticut Path)
	Go over Mass Pike Bridge, Shell sttion on the right
	see above for rest of directions.

	See you tomorrow in good spirits...

	BYOB...

416.37Latest PlansERLANG::FEHSKENSFri Aug 08 1986 14:5823
    Dave and I talked about this a day or so ago, and I have revised
    my plans accordingly.  Thus I am bringing:
    
    	3 tier USS keyboard stand
    	M216 mixer
    	SRV2000 reverb
    	TR-707 drum machine
    	Octapad
    
    I am NOT bringing:
    
    	USS drum rack
    	cymbals
    	cymbal stands
    
    Thus the current arrangement for drummers is to plug Dave's drummer's
    Tama pads into my octapad, making MIDI outs than can drive my 707,
    which we will run through the board, and use Dave's drummer's cymbals.
    
    I assume all you keyboard types have your acts similarly together
    ;^).
    
    len.
416.38HELP!!!JAWS::COTESounds like a dry martini...Fri Aug 08 1986 16:047
    Do anyone have a 3 tier keyboard stand I can set up on?!?!?!
    
    ... or I'll have to bring the NON-MIDI bass....
    
    send mail to me at JAWS::.....
    
    Edd
416.39one less drummer :-(BARNUM::RHODESFri Aug 08 1986 16:097
    I don't think I'll be able to make it as I'll be out of town this
    weekend :-(  Good luck to all and please post the highlights.
    
    Maybe next time...
    
    Todd.
    
416.40Have Stand, Will ShareERLANG::FEHSKENSFri Aug 08 1986 16:256
    Edd, you can have space on mine.
    
    Hmm, should I rent it out...?
    
    len.
    
416.41JAWS::COTESounds like a dry martini...Fri Aug 08 1986 16:343
    thanks!!!
    
    Edd
416.422000 and change. A Commusic Oddity.JAWS::COTECogito Ergo OopsMon Aug 11 1986 09:457
    Well? How was it? Come on, somebody tell me what I missed...
    
    I'll bet you guys sounded AHSUM!! I just can't imagine what it
    would be like to be in the same room with that much technology
    AND talent!!!
    
    Edd
416.43a reviewCAR::OPERATORboy, this is fun!Mon Aug 11 1986 10:3464
    			REVIEW
    		
	The much touted musical event of the DECade finally arrived
this past saturday afternoon and was a relatively rousing success.
Many of Digitals big guns of the musical notes files were on hand
to display their midi accessories and their talents. Dave and Ellen
Dreher, midi-husband and midi-wife, were ready and waiting when the
guest began to arrive.
	Ed Cote was the first to arrive and brought a nice Gibson
bass along with his midi equipment. Rik Sawyer arrived shortly after
Ed and, as he owns no midi equipment, brought some beer, wine, choco-
late cookies and his washburn guitar. Don Sharp, bringing some midi
equipment and his guitar, Karl Moeller and Steve Klosterman all arriv-
ed within a short period after this and things started to move. Steve,
a smoking bass player, used Ed's gibson, Rik was on Dave's guitar and
everyone else partook of a keyboard and the first jam was underway.
This lasted about 10 minutes and, along with being a good warmup, dis-
played to everyone attending that talent was in abundance. Steve left
at the end of the first jam as he had his own band to attend to that
afternoon. First applause to Steve Klosterman and thanks for coming.
	As Steve was leaving, almost everone meandered to the living
room for a breath of fresh air. The music room was quite hot and got
hotter as the evening went along, not just from the hot musicians. 
	More jamming followed shortly after and, eventually, Len Fehs-
kins arrived bringing more midi equipment and a rack to mount keys on.
Len, an excellent drummer, filled the one musical gap that remained.
Until Len's arrival, their were plenty of guitarists and keyboardist's
but only Dave's linndrum for percussion. A formidable instrument, the
Linn drum, but nothing really compares to the flexibility of a fine
drummer. Len filled the role perectly.
	So the evening passed on, Dave and Don and Rik taking turns
on guitar and bass, Ed, Don, Karl and Dave on keyboards and Len on
drums.
	More jamming ensued, much to the delight of those who love
to free-form jam and much to the chagrin of those who like regimented
"it goes like this" cover tune repititions. 
	In the early evening, just as the pizza was being ordered, Garret
Marotta and Dave DiAntonio (DDA) arrived with one more piece of equipment.
Another keyboard. What with the room being uncomfortably hot, sweat pour-
ing from everones body, and the over abundance of keyboard players, things
got a little muddled for awhile. People were unsure of what to play next.
Everyone would attempt to start something, anything only to find that every-
one else was starting something in another key, at another tempo. Free-
form improvisation was beggining to lose it's lustre. Dave Dreher took
command at this point and, with Ed Cote's assistance, and the midi-wife's
voice, organized a series of cover tunes for everyone to play. This was
far more successful for the cover-tune it-goes-like-this people than for
the lets-just-pick-a-key-and-jam people. The improvisers quietly left
the room and went to the living room for some air-conditioning and a 
movie.
	Len Fehskins, being the only drummer and having an admirable at-
titude, never left the drums until the final piece was played. Big
APPLAUSE to/for Len for having the dedication to stay in that HOT room
all that time.
	The session finally broke up aroung 10:30. Most everyone began
tearing down their equipment and packing it up. Mixed feelings seemed
to be the order of the evening as to just how successful the session was,
though everyone felt that some measure of success had been achieved.
	Thanks to everyone attending.
	A big applause to everyone attending.
	It was a pleasure meeting and playing with such formidable people
and I hope to be able to do so again.
	
416.44...and what did you play?JAWS::COTECogito Ergo OopsMon Aug 11 1986 10:425
    re. -1
    
    Ahem, ah, who are you?
    
    Edd
416.45a rose by any other identityCAR::OPERATORboy, this is fun!Mon Aug 11 1986 11:044
    I was the fly on the wall.
    
    mystery guest.
    
416.46I'm sooooo confused!AKOV68::EATONMon Aug 11 1986 12:569
>    Well? How was it? Come on, somebody tell me what I missed...
    
>	Ed Cote was the first to arrive and brought a nice Gibson...
    
    I don't get it...
    
    	Dan

    
416.47Me too!CAR::OPERATORboy, this is fun!Mon Aug 11 1986 13:2019
    re.-1
    
    	As the fly on the wall, I was introduced to an Ed Cote....I
    think. It may have been Ed ?????? something else but it was cer-
    tainly an Ed. I could have sworn it was Ed Cote.
    	Was there anotehr Ed there?
    	If so, then it wasn't Ed Cote...it was the other Ed.
    
    	But, having gone thru the previous notes, I noticed that Ed
    Cote was thinking of bringing a gibson bass and some keys and the
    person who claimed to be Ed ?????? at the jam brought a gibson
    bass and some keys.
    	That is a big clue.
    	I think Ed Cote, who wrote the reply prior to the review
    written by the fly on the wall, was just kidding.
    
    	any other opinions as to who ed is or how the jam went?
    
    	
416.48Just joking...JAWS::COTECogito Ergo OopsMon Aug 11 1986 13:3055
    OK, I admit it. I was there...
    
    All told, it was big fun. Got to put faces on node::names, listen
    to some HOT instrumentalists, meet the Midi-wife, ect. 
    
    Got to learn something too. You can take all the technology in the
    catalog, mix it with n parts good intention, simmer with seasoned
    artists and still get noise. Noise is directly proportional to the
    number of people attempting to make music. Not that anyone s**ked.
    Just the logistics of getting 10 - 12 people cooking at the same
    time makes execution difficult.
    
            "... and then it goes to Bm7th."
    
                           "Where?"
    
             "... never mind, use E."
    
    Mutiply times 1/2 n (where n = number of attendees) and you get
    the picture.
    
    Technically, it went down without a hitch. EVERYTHING went smooth.
    (Well, OK, I blew the OS on my Mirage disk, but that's minor.)
    Plenty of inputs, PLENTY OF OUTPUT. The only "problem" I observed
    was depending on the audio output of the instrumentalists, the Midi-
    wife would somehow get an "All-Notes-Off" message. Luckily, this
    situation was easily remedied by powering down for an hour or so.
    Impressive as she is, I'll think I'll wait until that glitch is
    worked out before I pick one up for myself... All joking aside,
    Ellen has a great voice. Thanks for 'sitting in'. Alex (the
    Midi-Kiddy?) was also impressive. Pounds right away on the Mirage.
    Nice kid... go see daddy's mixer.
    
    KMII is one hell of a pianist, is he not?
    
    Yo len, when are you gonna get/invent midi-cymbals? 
    
    Rik, you're bad rep as arrogant has been buried. Nice working with
    ya.
    
    Edd Cote, you lost your bass chops. Practice more. ("gee, they were
    right here a minute ago...")
    
    WHICH ONE OF YOU CRUMBS WALKED OFF WITH MY MADONNA CHARTS?????
    Actually, I just forgot it. Dave D, please bring it to work? I'll
    make arrangements....
    
    Next time, let's see if we can work out a little something in advance?
    I'd really have liked to got a good tape out of all that...
    
    To the hosts..."Thanks for having us!"
    
    To the rest... "Thanks for coming."
    
    Edd
416.49And I Got to Dice Pizaa for Alex!ERLANG::FEHSKENSMon Aug 11 1986 14:5238
    We need to find some more drummers.  KMII was seen to be noodling
    about a bit on drums, but it was either me or the LinnDrum most
    of the time.  I only got one blister and my hand only hurts a little
    today (see, electronic drums have this feature - when you can't
    hear them, you hit them harder, but that doesn't work, so you just
    hurt your hands/forearms/elbows/shoulders/back, and I couldn't hear
    my snare most of the time - just the "tap tap" on the pad.
    
    For all of Edd's complaining (was it really you Edd?) this was one
    of the more "controlled" jams I've been involved with.  There was
    almost none of the "the hell with the rest of you, I'm just gonna
    sit here and do my thing until everbody else gets fed up and starts
    playing with me!" kind of thing that's typical of we're-not-all-in-the-
    same-band jams.  If we do this again we ought to try to find some
    common material.  There was a lot of
    
    	"Do you know ..."
    
    	"No."
    
    And there was a real nice MIDIkitty too.
    
    And Ellen's voice is NOT just a trick of Dave's studio technique.
    By gosh and by golly that lady can sing.  Do you rent her out to
    other producers, Dave?
    
    Thanks to the fly on the wall for the kind words about my drumming;
    it's been a few months since I've sat behind a kit, never mind somebody
    else's kit ("everything's in the wrong place!"), but my time seems
    to be holding steady at the appropriately arrested level.  And I
    knew ALL the chords!

    Now all I want to know is when do we get to hear the tape...
    
    Can we get that '60s era psychedelic drone erased?

    len.
    
416.50get it on, bang a drumBARNUM::RHODESMon Aug 11 1986 18:2911
    Gee, if I start a distribution list for the tape I can be the first
    one to get it :-).  I want to hear it.  I'm sorry I missed the whole
    extravaganza.  I have some neat percussion patches for the DX100.
    I want to use 'em some time.
    
    Now where the heck are we gonna find another drummer for the next
    one?
    
    Todd. (now_whats_this_about_60's_psycadelia?!?!?!?!?!)
    
    
416.51Session Report...JUNIOR::DREHERYet, another Don Sharp clone...Tue Aug 12 1986 02:2357
                                                                   
    Well, KMIDI Jam has come and gone.  Thanks to all who came and
    attended.  The house didn't suffer to badly at all accept for the
    pile of beer cans and bottles.  Maybe I'll turn them in and buy
    a patch cord...
    
    The day consisted of jamming, checking out a piece of gear, listening
    to a tape, waiting for Len, cracking open another beer, some more
    jammin', etc.  The toughest part was figuring out what to play.
    Some of the highlites were the second jam with Steve K. on bass,
    KM and Ed C. on keys, Rik S. and DD on guitars and Linn on Drums.
    This ditti made it to tape and is very listenable.  The Midiwife
    sang on renditions of Madonna's "Borderline", Stevie Nick's "Stand
    Back" and the Motel's "Mission" of Mercy.  "Borderline" was the
    most organized and made it to tape.  Players on this take were
    Ed Cote, KM, and Don Sharp on keys, Len on drums "Don't worry, Len,
    the vocal mics will pick it up", Rik Sawyer on Bass, Ellen on vocal
    and DD on Linn Hihat.  After Pizza break the Jam continued with a rendition
    Talking Head's "Life During Wartime" featuring Don Sharp on vocals.
    On don't remember to many other stand outs accept for the "Sixties
    Psycadelia Jam" which somehow made it to tape.  As the host I'm
    sorry I didn't record more but you know how hosting goes...
    Another gem the made to tape was the "Classic Keyboard Soloist Jam",
    which was a medly of Bach, Bolero, 2001 and other pieces featuring
    KM and Ed Cote, both of whom would sue if I let anybody hear this.
    
    Since this *was* the MIDI Jam, a list of the MIDI equipment gathered
    together for this momentous occasion follows:
    
    	Yamaha KX88 Midi Keyboard Controler
    	Roland MKB-200 Midi Keyboard Controler
        Yamaha TX7 Tone Generator
    	Roland MKS-20 Piano Module
    	Roland Jupiter-6
    	Roland JX-3P
    	Yamaha DX21
    	Ensoniq Mirage
    	Casio CZ-5000
    	Roland MC-500
    	Roland SBX-10
    	360 Systems MIDI Patcher
    	Roland TR-707
    	Roland Octopad
    	Tama Pads
    	LinnDrum
        Roland SRV-2000            

    There was also extra guitars, basses and amps.  Also Len brought
    his Tascam 216 as an extra mixer and a keyboard stand that Ed wanted
    to take home.  The disapointment was that no one brought anything 
    made by Mitsubishi.
    
    All in All, I thought a good time was had by all and look forward
    to the next whenever.  Maybe we all could actually learn something ahead
    of time...
    
    Quincy Jones
416.52MIDIMANIA..see devices wrestle for MIDI channels!CANYON::MOELLERThreshhold MonkeyTue Aug 12 1986 16:0433
    It's all true. 'From chaos, order'. Dave and Ellen outdid themselves
    as hosts, cheerfully allowing their house to be trashed. The sauna
    at the hotel I'd been staying at was out of order, but DD's basement
    helped me lose at least 3 lbs... I kept eating chips and drinking
    beer just to keep my electrolyte level up.
    
    Music... for me, the most satisfying jam of the day was the first,
    with Little Steve Klosterman on bass, first Edd and then myself
    on keys, and first Rik and then Dave on guitar. Mr. Linn on percussion.
    There was room for the music to move, with fewer folks. Rik and
    Dave segue'd their guitar parts so smoothly that when the piece
    stopped, I was startled to see Dave and not Rik there with his axe.
    These guys are hot, and not prone to the 'louder guitar is better
    guitar' syndrome. 
    
    There was an amusing syndrome present when, just before one piece,
    Dave was setting levels on the mixer... I kept about 20% volume
    in reserve..'Yeah, Dave, that's as loud as it gets'... sure...

    One of the high points for me was Don Sharp pulling us thru two
    Talking Heads tunes.. many thanks to Don for letting me use his
    KX88/MKS-20 combo. Felt just like home.
    
    another high point was Ellen singing Madonna's 'Borderline'.. I've
    been humming it for two days now. 
    
    So Dave Dreher now has enough material on tape to get into some
    substantial blackmail, especially the Classical Crap Jam... please
    Dave, have mercy. a good time was had by all, many thanks to Edd,
    Len, Rik, Dave and Ellen, Don et al.
    
    karl moeller    
    
416.53Thank you much.ELGAR::KLOSTERMANStevie KTue Aug 12 1986 17:524
	I had a great time.  Thanks Dave and Ellen.  Nice putting all those
faces with node::name.  I regret I couldn't stay very long due prior
commitments, but definitely sign me up for the next one!  Thanks, Edd, for 
letting me play the Gibson, too!  I'd love to hear the tape.
416.54yet another participant reportDAIRY::SHARPSay something once, why say it again?Wed Aug 13 1986 16:5229
Personally, I had a great time. Thanks to Dave and Ellen for hosting and all
participants for hot licks, enthusiasm, patience, and all-around good
attitude.  I look forward to working with any and/or all of you again.

Tom Janzen: You would be amazed, and quite probably appalled, to realize the
extent to which your music and aesthetic principles influence the local rock
music scene.

I thought it went as well as could possibly be expected, considering none of
us had ever played together before, and most had never HEARD each other
before. Quincy Jones did not have this problem when planning the "We Are The
World" sessions. I, for one, spent some time before the jam thinking about
what might work out, but since I didn't know the people who were going to be
there, their abilities, or their equipment I couldn't come up with much.
Next time I would find it much easier.

It's always a problem with THAT MANY musicians and instruments to keep the
mix clean. After a point you can't hear what you're playing; you might as
well just quit. I think the jams tended to fall into this trap, although the
covers for the most part managed to avoid it.  

Special mentions: 
	Len: good transition fills on "Life During Wartime" and "Take Me to the 
	     River"
	Edd: good Hammond B-3 figurations on "Take Me to the River"
	Rik: excellent rhythm riff on "Space Jam." Too bad we lost it in the
	     mix.

Don.
416.55it's hard to keep up with this NOTES file...RAJA::SCHMIEDERThu Aug 14 1986 13:327
Oh.  I thought this was to be a MIDI-only jam.  Since the only instruments I
like to PERFORM with are my bass guitar, clarinet and alto recorder (plus
acoustic piano when available), I didn't think I was qualified.  Oh well,
maybe next time.


				Mark