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362.1 | A Hand Wave | ERLANG::FEHSKENS | | Mon May 19 1986 10:08 | 21 |
| I don't know how the Allen works, but my guess is that if they wanted
to be accepted as an instrument for use by prefssional organists,
it would have to have most of the characteristics of a traditional
pipe organ. Namely, a large selection of stops that can be used
in arbitrary combinations. This would mean ALL the samples were
very quickly accessable (none of this popping a floppy disk into
the drive in the middle of a performance). Now, a regular pipe
organ and its electronic imitators have LOTS of stops (voices),
and that means lots of pipes, or pitch wheels, or whatever the tone
generation technology is. So I would guess it means lots of samples,
which in turn means lots of bucks. While we could probably ballpark
the cost of a keyboard's worth of samples (say one per octave for
8 ocatves worth) for one voice, I have no idea how that compares
with the cost of a set of pipes for a stop. My guess is that the
latter has become quite expensive, and that a "real" acoustic pipe
organ has become an in-excess-of-$100K instrument, so a good sampled
version could still be exorbitantly expensive by our standards and
be a good value.
len.
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362.2 | Some Allen info | EUCLID::BEYERSDORFER | | Mon May 19 1986 10:50 | 64 |
| Allen goes specifically after the pipe organ market. They used
to have a subsidiary called ROCKY MOUNT or something for the ROCK
market, but I think they gave it up. The simplest Allen consists
of one "computer" board which contains a digital tone generator.Most
of the sounds (stops) are programmed in ROM (usually about 36 sounds)
with 16 sampling points for a 7 bit A/D. Allen introduced the
technology around 1970 using LSI from Lockheed (derivative of tech
from space program). However, they added a lot of their own stuff
to simulate the irregularities found in the sounds pipe organs actually
generate - uneven wind pressure, sudden decompression when large
numbers of notes are played, etc. In addition, the wave forms are
modified by general algorithm based on frequency so the high end
is not too squeaky, and the low end, not too bland. In addition
they have stops called mixtures on their classical models which
actually consist of several notes played simultaneously (harmonic
sets) but whose composition change depending on the note being played
once again to accentuate the low end to provide clarity in contrupuntal
work. On base models there are three keying systems - 2 61 note
keyboards and a 32 note pedal board. The keyboard keying circuits
control their own independent stops, random wind motion, and FM
modulation for tremulant. These are input to the tone generator.
The tone generator outputs to 2 channels which are independent -
certain stops come from one channel while the balance come from
the other channel. Each output channel has analog circuitry for
various effects, the predominant one being FM and AM modulation
for theatre organ type sound.
Some models, even on the low end, have 4 programmable stops which
are set using IBM punch cards passed through a manual card reader.
Each computer can play 12 notes at once! (10 fingers plus 2 feet
covers most classical organ literature).
Engineering of the instruments is impeccable - reliability is high.
Repair is a snap. The consoles are heavy duty - fine furniture.
The whole console, from the smallest to the largest "opens up" easily
to reveal a neat packaging job - cables and all. As an example,
the pedal board (32 notes) is built like a battle ship and is a
separate piece from the console. It "couples" to the console
magnetically - no cables - and is very reliable.
Some of their special effects (there are very few) allow playing
BACH in real time reminiscent of Carlos' Switched On Bach.
Their larger models add computers, keyboards, etc. I have played
one in Pennsy that has 4 keyboards and 12 computers (all in the
console - a real work of art) and had cassette loadable RAM. In
addition that one plus many of their small ones have "capture" systems
which allow automatic storage and retrieval of programs - but the
stop tabs actually move - usually allow a minimum of 30 or so programs
even on the smallest.
Allen doesn't do much in the way of special effects. They believe
that for most of their market, natural acoustics of the building
should dominate - imagine an organ sounding like it's in Notre Dame
in Paris in a New England Meeting House. Their goal is for people
to say - Gee, what a nice sounding pipe organ.
So for ROCK, etc., Allen, at least now, is probably not "there",
but they could be if they wanted to be. But for a musician seeking
an excellent live performance machine (you got it all - 2 hands
and 2 feet) and who wants to explore all types of literature - get
your wallet ready and see an Allen by all means! To see/hear one
- check the Yellow pages and ask a dealer for references. Anything
of interest - please post it here.
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362.3 | There's one in Westborough | BARTOK::ARNOLD | John E. Arnold | Mon May 19 1986 18:34 | 10 |
| One of these "digital" Allen Organs is currently in use at the
Evangelical (Congregational) Church on West Main Street in Westborough,
MA. They don't have a recital program, per se, but do occasionally
have concerts and the like in addition to its regular use during
scheduled services.
If I hear of any organ recital-ish events there, I'll post it here
in case you'd like to give it a listen.
- John -
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362.4 | | DRIZLE::MITCHELL | | Mon May 19 1986 21:21 | 9 |
| RE: .2
That description made me drool. Do you work for Allen? You should.
Frankly, I always thought organs should be modular like (REAL :-)
synthesizers. That way, you could add the stops you want and avoid
gimmicks. Of course, if you *wanted* gimmicks, you could always
add them.
JOHN M.
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362.5 | The Allen Organ, the next best thing to being there | DRFIX::PICKETT | | Wed Jul 23 1986 11:52 | 21 |
| My $.02
Hi there, being new to this file, and an organist, this note
naturally piqued my interest. I have had the opportunity to do a
few services on a Three manual Allen, and I believe they are a joy
to play. I have had the opportunity to play a lot of organs, since
I tend to do substitute organ playing for several churches during
the summer.
I had the opportunity to hear the afforementioned Allen organ
really put to the test by a real organist (Berj Zamkochian former(?)
organist for the BSO) He played a program of some obligatory BACH
fugues, and a few really involved French pieces (Vierne's Symph
1 Finale, and Widor Symph 5 Finale, for the organ fanatics) The
organ really kept up with him, and never left you feeling as though
you were listening to a really good immitation. What I always enjoy
about organ concerts is the feeling one gets when the pedal sections
sing out, and you f e e l the notes rumbling. The same feeling
was to be had with the Allen, and I was duely impressed.
-David
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362.6 | seven years ago, already... | EUREKA::REG_B | Ninety nine point nine percent TV free | Wed Jul 23 1986 13:05 | 13 |
|
I was in a music store in the great metropolis of Littleton N.H. while
on vacation and happened across their magazine rack (of course). They
don't carry Keyboard Player magazine, but still had a copy of a mmm_'79
issue of Contemporary Keyboard, the cover story of which was Virgil
Fox's touring Allen organ. Don't know why I didn't buy it, they were
offering their old mags for 50c, anyway being a speed reader (7,000
wpm, and a tooter of a different kind of horn) I got through all I
wanted to right there in the store, interesting instrument for
$100K *THEN*
Reg
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362.7 | Allen Theatre Compact Organ | GIBSON::DICKENS | Surfing with my Buick | Tue May 31 1988 17:15 | 21 |
| My mom has recently come into possesion of an Allen Theatre Compact
organ, circa 1969. She got it *free*, just for hauling it away.
What have we got here ? It has two manuals, and a 1� octave pedal
board. I popped the top and saw lots of relays clicking away and
some kind of wild-looking matrix switching system.
Most of the accompaniment stops don't work; probably baked relays
or dirty contacts. This thing had been out in a damp barn for years.
But some of the solo stops sound great, especially the chimes and
xylophone. Very realistic-sounding. The organ also has a leslie-type
vibrato speaker.
I haven't called them yet, but FWIW, Allen organ has an office in
Framingham center. Their number there is 626-0900.
Any information whatsoever about this machine would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Jeff
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362.8 | | GIBSON::DICKENS | Surfing with my Buick | Tue May 31 1988 17:20 | 3 |
| I just talked to someone at Allen, and the one we've got is a
"pre-computer" model. Now I'm looking for a service manual..
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