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321.1 | I'll bet this is a can of worms... | MENTOR::COTE | Sue me if I play too long... | Wed Apr 23 1986 09:00 | 18 |
| My goal is to make MUSIC, not to play the piano/flugelhorn/drums/whatever.
To that end, the sequencer is not a tool, but a veritable door from
which the tunes in my head can come out through.
Yes, it does take up the slack where my technique (or lack of) leaves
off. I'd just as soon hire a studio full of musicians to play my
music, but $$ being what it is....
Writing/composing and performing are 2 closely related but SEPARATE
entities, let's not confuse them. I'd love to be a virtuoso on every
instrument, but the fact that I'm not shouldn't prevent me from
being creative.
Real men take advantage of what's available...
No offense taken...
Edd
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321.2 | OK, We'll argue about it HERE. | ERLANG::FEHSKENS | | Wed Apr 23 1986 13:21 | 24 |
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Obviously, nobody should compose music for instruments they can't
play...
I have always looked at sequencers as a saviour for those of us with
no "technique" beyond the ability to imagine what we want to hear.
Music is more than a chops contest - what you've said is analogous
to "scores and performers are the refuge of composers with crappy
technique."
I guess since I'm a competent drummer I can trash my drum machines...
etc.
len.
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321.3 | How I will use my new MSQ-100 | ADVAX::SPEED | Derek Speed | Fri Apr 25 1986 14:20 | 42 |
| My $0.02:
I consider myself a keyboard player of medium talent: I have the
chops for your basic cover rock 'n' roll band (no insult intended
to keyboard players with hot chops in cover bands) but not for any type
of sincere classical or jazz playing.
To me, sequencers offer the following nice features:
1.) If I'm using MIDI, I can change my mind about what synth
patches I use on a song after I have recorded the "note information"
piece of the music. For example, I recently recorded a tune by
overdubbing on a 4 track machine. I now realize that I hate 2 of
the sounds I used for two of the four parts. If I want to change
those sounds, I now have to re-record the parts. With a MIDI
sequencer, I could simply change the patches being used and maintain
all the notes I initially recorded. I think that's neat.
2.) By using a MIDI sequencer, I can build a song at home using
my cheap keyboards and effects and then be able to bring my sequencer
into a multi-$100K studio and use their synths, outboard effects,
console, etc. to build a master quality recording. Double neat!
3.) On those occassions where my writing ideas exceed my keyboard
dexterity, I can use the sequencer to overcome my stumbling fingers.
4.) Although I'm not yet convinced about my using MIDI sequencing
in live performance, I could potentially use my sequenced parts
live and avoid having another keyboard player there to play the
parts I can't because I have only 2 hands.
My feeling about the technology is this: I, as a keyboard player,
am probably not going to make the drum parts on my TR707 sound as
good as a good drummer would; by the same token, a drummer might
not be able to produce keyboard parts as good as a hot keyboard
player. Who cares? If the music sounds good, I'll listen to it.
If it doesn't, I won't. But I love the opportunity to play with
my drum machine and get a basic groove going in a few minutes, much the
same as I'm sure people without great keyboard skills love to be
able to get a basic keyboard part with a little effort.
Derek
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321.4 | You use a what? | MOSAIC::SAVAGE | | Fri Apr 25 1986 15:03 | 15 |
| RE: the comment that started all this....
FLAME-ON
If you don't like sequencers - fine. As far as telling the rest
of the world not to use them - go f*** yourself. Techniques
tend to progress weather you can handle it or not. The ONLY thing
that matters is how it sounds in the end. The means is totally irrelevant.
FLAME-OFF
Anyway everyone knows only a wimpy-bleeding heart-pinko-commie-pin-head
would use a sequencer. :=)
Dennis Savage
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321.5 | | STAR::MALIK | Karl Malik | Fri Apr 25 1986 16:56 | 5 |
| Re; -1
I resent being called a pin-head.
- Karl
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321.6 | CHUMP RECANTS | CANYON::MOELLER | Code Decomposition Stinks | Mon Apr 28 1986 15:56 | 16 |
| HI, guys!!! Back from some nontraining in sunny California. I
see I now have to eat some MAJOR CROW.
I was uninformed, IGNORANT and opinionated....
My previous exposure to sequencers was a P.O.S. step-time unit from
godknowshere.
I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT ! And I apologize. There's nothing inherently
noble in analog synths, multitracking, and ignoring MIDI.
What I HAVE seen will be replied into Karl Malik's topic on 'If
ya could do it over again'.
Karl Moeller
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321.7 | Karl's a REAL MAN! | ERLANG::FEHSKENS | | Mon Apr 28 1986 16:24 | 7 |
| Real men recant with grace and humility. You've shown us your stuff,
Karl, and we're proud of you.
You can sell your crystal radio and trade in your 78s now... ;^)
len.
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