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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:DYPSS1::SCHAFER
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

238.0. "VAX notes conversion ?" by ERLANG::DICKENS () Tue Feb 04 1986 15:30

When is this file scheduled to be converted to VAX notes ?  It is now the
only file I read with VNOTES.  Foot draggers take note:  It won't take long
for you to get hooked on VAX notes.  It is a quantum leap in functionality
and performance over VNOTES, which wasn't too shabby to begin with.


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238.1RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDWed Feb 05 1986 08:1712
 Yeah vaxnotes is great......if your system manager will support it.
Ours misinstalled it and at the same time killed all other notes access
ie he deleted notes-11, then when everyone in the plant complained he 
killed vaxnotes and reinstalled notes-11 and will not consider allowing 
the two to coexist, after all vaxnotes is "untested" and he cannot 
support it.


I've already lost some notefiles due to the conversion, this one is one 
of my favorites, please maintain it as it is.

dave
238.2HERMES::LOWEWed Feb 05 1986 08:523
re .1

And your system manager thinks that vnotes is supported?????
238.3ERLANG::DICKENSWed Feb 05 1986 12:352
That's really weird. (warped ?)

238.4DAIRY::SHARPWed Feb 05 1986 13:458
Personally, I'm all for conversion.  However, as I understand it VAX Notes
only works with VMS V4.2.  There are real-life business reasons why some
people can't convert to VMS 4.2 yet.  Not all applications can run with the
new base system as soon as it's released.  In the development world there's
a big push to increment your version number ASAP, but in the user world there's
a tendencey to hang back, in some cases to hang back as long as possible.

Don.
238.5BAXTA::BOTTOM_DAVIDThu Feb 06 1986 07:5911
re: .2
 Well my system manager to be blunt, is ignorant. VMS is not the issue
since we are clustered at 4.2. The guy will not even discuss the issue
refuses to answer mail etc. If you decide to convert, I can't blame you,
but I will be left out until our MIS decides to get their act together.
At last report they were still arguing (in their staff mettings) about
what notes software to use........as if there was any real choice.

left out in maine....

dave
238.6SAUTER::SAUTERThu Feb 06 1986 09:344
I believe it is possible to install the user agent for your own
use without the co�peration of your system manager.  I don't know
the details.
    John Sauter 
238.7RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDFri Feb 07 1986 09:477
RE: -1
 I'd like to install it in my account but unless I'm mistaken it 
requires the use of system manager privledges (ie VMSINSTALL).

Ah well if ya convert, ya convert.

dave
238.8EDISON::SPEEDTue Feb 11 1986 17:276
Did we ever get an official answer to the question posed in the original
note?  If not, when is this file being converted?

		Thanks,
		Derek
                 
238.9MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDFri Feb 14 1986 09:426
Having successfully self installed vaxnotes I remove any objections to 
the conversion. Go for it!!!! see you there (when it happens)

gleefully running vaxnotes without my sys managers knowledge....

dave
238.10BUFALO::RAVANFri Feb 14 1986 16:3714
After discussion with our system manager, current plans are to convert
this file to VAX Notes format on Thursday 20-Feb-1985 at 5:00 p.m. EST.
The VAX Notes version of this file will be called
{NOVA,QUILL,BANZAI,WEBSTR,BUFALO}""::NOTES$LIBRARY:COMMUSIC.NOTE.  After
the conversion, this file (NOVA""::SYS$NOTES:COMMUSIC.NOT) will be write locked
and will be subject to deletion anytime thereafter.  All existing notes will
survive in the new file intact.

So please be careful around 5:00 next Thursday afternoon.  I'd like this
conversion to take as little time and cause as little disruption in service
as possible.

Regards,
Jim
238.11EDISON::SPEEDMon Feb 17 1986 11:506
Good stuff Jim!  We'll be looking forward to the conversion.  I just did
some notes files here on my cluster and it was a piece of cake.  Now if only
the VAX Notes servers were running properly before I started....

		Good luck,
		Derek