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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

678.0. "Response to UN decision re: Canada?" by KAOFS::LOCKYER (NO! (Tact Is For Weenies!!)) Fri Apr 09 1993 01:18

    What are the consequences of a United Nations decision within Canada? 
    For example, the UN recently determined that Quebec's sign law violates
    the UN's freedom of expression provision.
    
    What must Canada do as a result of such a determination or can it be
    ignored with no consequence?  Can the determination be appealed?
    
    What are the facts or your opinion?
    
    Regards,
    
    Garry
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678.1CSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Mon Apr 12 1993 10:4511
    While the moderators agree that there is much more to the subject
    of How UN decisions and INternational court decisions affect Canada
    than the subject of Language Policy or Nationalism, we believe that
    the discussion on this topic is very likely to focus on these topics.
    
    We therefore feel, that until the dust settles on the hostilities
    that brought about the banning of these topics, the decision to write
    lock this topic stands.  We will consider releasing the write lock at
    some time in the fututre.
    
    Stuart
678.2I doubt if they can do muchELWOOD::OBRIENFri Apr 23 1993 17:1615
    
    	 What can the UN do to enforce their decision? Boycott Quebec?
    	Naval Blockade the Saint Lawrence? Send in the Troops???? I
    	doubt it. Just look at what the UN's influence in Bosnia/Croatia/
    	Serbia/#@%^& has done. The UN does a lot of posturing but doesn't
    	exactly take severe action even when they are violently challenged,
    	as in the case of Bosnia. Now look at this sign decision and scale
    	it against the atrocities being committed in Bosnia. Given the time
    	frame that it will take for the UN to resolve the problems in
    	Bosnia, maybe your childrens children will have to comply with
    	the UN. But that's probably only if your childrens children want
    	to comply with the UN. otherwise, C'est la vie.
    
    	Mike
    
678.3KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerFri Apr 23 1993 17:2510
    
    
    	Been to Iraq lately? Understand they had quite a fireworks display
    a while back. 
    	I believe the Bosnia situation, as desparate as may be
    has many of the world leaders baffled as to how to rectify. If there
    was a clear answer as to how the situation could be resolved, it might
    have been dealt with in some manner by now.  
    
    	
678.4CSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Fri Apr 23 1993 18:3016
    There are indeed differences between Bosnia and Iraq ... civil wars
    are much more difficult to fix than 3rd party wars.
    
    On the other hand ... sanctions could be leveled against Canada.
    This of course is the weird thing ... Quebec is not recognized at
    the UN, so it cannot pose any stand against Quebec alone.  It must
    be against Canada for allowing this disparity to exist.
    
    International law is touchy at the best of times.  On the other hand
    a lot of countries do attempt to abide by it.  Of course in this
    case, how can Canada abide by a ruling over which it actually has
    negligible control.
    
    Tough situation.
    
    Stuart
678.5Too bad the PQ are deaf...KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeMon Apr 26 1993 09:509
    The UN has only pointed out what others inside Canada have been saying
    for a long time, the law stinks. I think the desired result from the UN
    decision is already in the works. On the weekend the Quebec Liberal
    party decided to change it, and the UN decision was mentioned as a
    contributing factor. Of course the PQ could care less about rights or
    world opinion, and as such will fight changing the law.
    
    
    							Derek