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| 624.1 | Expos + Blue Jays = Statehood | TROOA::DLOTEN | Semper ubi sub ubi. | Thu Oct 15 1992 12:36 | 7 |
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re: .1
I predict a pre-emptive strike the first time the Expos and BJ's head
into the "World Series"!
-doug
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| 624.2 | what's in a name... | KAOFS::D_STREET | | Thu Oct 15 1992 13:17 | 8 |
| I don't know why they should complain, I mean after all they do call it
the *WORLD* series. This is the first time the rest of the world has
been represented.
Does this mean the whole world (minus USA) should be cheering for the
JAYS ?
Derek
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| 624.3 | | TROOA::SOLEY | Global Village Idiot | Thu Oct 15 1992 13:59 | 2 |
| Actually the "World" in World Series refers to The New York World
newspaper which sponsored the series for the first few years.
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| 624.4 | memory is a funny thing... | KAOFS::D_STREET | | Thu Oct 15 1992 15:26 | 3 |
| I knew that, and forgot it. I stand corrected.
Derek.
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| 624.5 | | KAOFS::J_DESROSIERS | Lets procrastinate....tomorrow | Thu Oct 15 1992 17:42 | 12 |
| I sure hope the Blue Jays win, it will be a lot of fun seeing those
sherman tanks mauling the pavement on bay street, perhaps they will
blow off the roof of the "skydome". The only thing to stop them will
be;
The french sings when they cross into Qu�bec and...
The Grand Canal :-)
Jean
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| 624.6 | | MAJORS::ROWELL | Buy Now, While Shops Last ! | Fri Oct 16 1992 05:34 | 5 |
| Jean,
Is the French singing *that* bad ? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Wayne ;)
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| 624.7 | They'll never takes us alive! | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Sick in a balanced sort of way | Fri Oct 16 1992 12:55 | 5 |
| All hail the Grand Canal!!!
It's a good thing we have one!
Glenn
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| 624.8 | | KAOFS::J_DESROSIERS | Lets procrastinate....tomorrow | Fri Oct 16 1992 13:48 | 9 |
| re -.2
Not to MY ears!
Jean
I looked it up, read "sign", at least I did not make a mistake with
the conjugation.
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| 624.9 | | KAOFS::B_VANVALKENB | | Mon Oct 19 1992 15:28 | 6 |
| The US does not have to invade Canada because our fearless leader B.M.
is delivering us to the on a platter.!!!
Brian V
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| 624.10 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Sick in a balanced sort of way | Mon Oct 19 1992 16:44 | 1 |
| I understand that the platter being used is in fact the Queen's Plate....
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| 624.11 | US>CANADA invasion book. | TROOA::BROOKS | | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:31 | 24 |
| Sorry to take this note to be serious discussion, but have any of you
read the book 'THE LAST CANADIAN'? I forget who wrote it but it was
about Imperial Oil doing a leveraged buyout of Exxon so that they could
lower oil prices along the Quebec-Windsor corridor (for some reason).
In any case, the yanks invade by sending a slew of c-130 Hercules to
our major airports with the idea of doing some sort of coup. We
respond by blowing up one or two of them on the runway and scare the
rest of them off. I suppose the imputous (sp?) for them invading was
control over their natural resources; oil.
In real life, I wouldn't be all that suprised if they
invade/annex//whatever once their oil or more importantly, water,
starts running out. Fortunately, they are very intraspective and don't
really know we're here (hence the upside down flag at the World
Series). You can also bet that the UN report showing Canada as the
best, didn't get much airplay down south.
BTW, the book may not have been called the Last Canadian, but something
along the lines of 'Imperium', and was written by a Canadian who has
written other Canadian Books (no, not Pierre Berton) and was at one
point involved with the Cdn. Military.
Doug
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| 624.12 | | TROOA::SOLEY | Global Village Idiot | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:43 | 9 |
| The book you refer to is called, "Exxoneration" the authour is Richard
Rohmer, his was (or is) a General in the Canadian Reserves. This book
is a good 15 years old (I read it in high school) and is a sequel to
"Ultimatum"
Much more current and interesting is the recent book by a RMC military
historian which claims that there are plans to invade Canada in place
(he cites as evidence an US base of some sort in upstate NY that
doesn't make sense for any other purpose).
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| 624.13 | | KAOT01::D_PAWSEY | Don Pawsey -Hull, Canada CSC Networks | Wed Oct 21 1992 16:46 | 6 |
| Jean,
Don't worry about the Americans crossing into Quebec! I'll leave the rest
up to your imagination.
Grrrrrrrrr
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| 624.14 | | KAOFS::M_MORIN | Le diable est aux vaches! | Wed Oct 21 1992 16:49 | 8 |
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Don,
Last I heard, if Quebec was to separate, the Americans would be the 1st ones
making a move into the new country. The purpose would be to setup an
embassy there...
Mario
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| 624.15 | An institutin for the treatment of ... | KAOT01::D_PAWSEY | Don Pawsey -Hull, Canada CSC Networks | Wed Oct 21 1992 16:58 | 5 |
| Mario,
You must mean a "sanatorium", not an embassy.
Don
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| 624.16 | is this *really* what u want? | KAOT01::T_ROSS | He who laughs, lasts best. | Wed Oct 21 1992 23:37 | 11 |
| re: .14
Yeah, that's what the US usually does with third-world economies just
before they tap 'em dry...
Mario, the thought of Quebec becoming another of the US's toy bananna
republics is just as repulsive to me as it must be to you. If that's
what separation has to offer the Quebecois, then they should be very
careful what they ask for... 'cause they just might get it.
/Todd.
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| 624.17 | | KAOFS::B_VANVALKENB | | Thu Oct 22 1992 15:11 | 11 |
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Regarding the US plan to invade Canada that was mentioned in an earlier
reply. I have heard the same thing....can't remember the source, but
apparently the plan was in place and was being strongly considered just
before WWII started. Once WWII started though the US decided it
wouldn't be looked upon favourablyby the international community.
(what I heard for what it's worth)
Brian V
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| 624.18 | First the world series, next the superbowl | TROOA::SOLEY | Global Village Idiot | Thu Oct 22 1992 15:59 | 9 |
| There have, been various not-so-secret plans to invade
or annex all or part of British North America/Canada, we all know it was
actually tried in 1812. One of these campaigns even had a still well
known slogan "54:40 or fight" the 40 was the 40th parallel (as opposed
to the 38th) don't remember what the 54 meant.
I've also heard that Quebec once tried to invade one of the New England
states, but I'm not sure if this is real or just a good bit of
folklore.
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| 624.19 | 54 40 means "grab best part of Canada" | VAOU09::BOTMAN | pieter | Thu Oct 22 1992 19:26 | 10 |
| I believe "54 40 or fight" refers to boundaries the americans felt they
"deserved", or wanted to obtain. Something about "manifest destiny",
and all that. 54 would be 54 degrees north latitude. Have your atlas
ready? Think anything north of 54 would have been of interest to the
americans in the early 1800's? NOT! (Hint: no large oil industry at that
time).
Pieter
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| 624.20 | | KAOFS::J_DESROSIERS | Lets procrastinate....tomorrow | Fri Oct 23 1992 13:07 | 14 |
| I read the same story in a press article, they have some base in New
York state where they are training in what amounts to the same kind of
terrain we have, sooooo....
As for us to become part of the US, not me! Sure the US would promise
anything, but would not deliver. In two generations Qu�bec would be so
anglicised as to make any recovery of the french language IMPOSSIBLE
(witness Louisiana and many towns in New England).
Jean
The last invasion of Qu�bec was in 1970 when trudeau voted the war
measures act.
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| 624.21 | re: Jean | KUTIPS::LACAILLE | Half-filled bottles of inspiration | Fri Oct 23 1992 14:55 | 6 |
| > The last invasion of Qu�bec was in 1970 when trudeau voted the war
> measures act.
I hope that was a implied smiley...ie :-)
Charlie
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| 624.22 | Those that forget history... | KAOFS::LOCKYER | | Fri Oct 23 1992 15:34 | 12 |
| Why do Quebecers conveniently forget that the Quebec provincial government
(Robert Bourassa) ASKED the federal government (Pierre Trudeau) to invoke
the War Measures Act to resolve a Quebec, just as the Quebec provincial
government (Robert Bourassa) ASKED the federal government (Brian Mulroney)
to resolve a provincial problem at Oka?
Who can spot the similarities in the above?
Regards,
Garry
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| 624.23 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Sick in a balanced sort of way | Fri Oct 23 1992 15:57 | 5 |
| What about the Grand Canal?
Jean, help me out here!
Glenn
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| 624.24 | | KAOFS::M_MORIN | Le diable est aux vaches! | Fri Oct 23 1992 16:11 | 12 |
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Re: similatities.
Here's one.
In both cases criminals were involved, the FLQ and the Mohawks.
What similarity were you referring to Garry?
Don't bother mentioning it, I know what it is.
/Mario
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| 624.25 | Looks like a Quebec (ie. NOT Canadian) problem to me! | KAOFS::LOCKYER | | Fri Oct 23 1992 20:12 | 11 |
| Both situations were local to Quebec that it couldn't control without
outside help.
In both cases Robert Bourassa made the call for help.
Both PMs were from Quebec.
So one has to ask, why do some Quebecers think Canada did something
terrible by responding to a request for hel from Quebec?
Garry
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| 624.26 | | KAOFS::J_DESROSIERS | Lets procrastinate....tomorrow | Wed Oct 28 1992 13:01 | 13 |
| Do you think the situation "could" have been handled in such a way as
to make federal involvement MANDATORY? In this light then the federal
governement and it's institutions are seen in a positive light by the
population.
Don't forget, in the Oka "war", Robert Bourassa and his governement
made the mess and then called out the feds to help.
I for one don't beleive we need an army (except of course if they are
used to dig the GRAND CANAL)
Jean
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