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Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

564.0. "Riots in TO ????" by GVA05::ATKINSON (Just the facts kid) Tue May 05 1992 07:21

    I read something about riots in Toronto (Los Angeles things) in VNS.
    More info please !!!!
    
    Alan
    Geneva
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564.1Toronto News...TROOA::SMCDONALDTue May 05 1992 09:4528
    
    Last night around 6:30 Downtown a peaceful demonstration in front of
    the US consulate on University Ave quickly escalated into a riot.
    "Hundreds of rioters - of all colors - surged north on Yonge, police
    were pelted with rocks and eggs, hundreds of windows were smashed and
    stores were looted." - Toronto Star.
    
    It seemed that the crowd escalated to a thousand or so in demonstration
    of the Rodney King acquittal of four LA cops. The "Black Action Defense
    Committee" organized this demonstration. There was another incident
    over the past weekend which also escalated the demonstration. That
    being that a Toronto cop shot and killed a black man. The shooting took
    place when the knife-weilding, accused drug person confronted the cop.
    The report says that the cop shot the black man in self-defense after
    being threatened.
    
    It appears that a number of police,news media and by standers were
    injured by flying rocks and bottles. Approximately 30 people were
    arrested and numerous stores were damaged or looted.
    
    It's a very sad day for Toronto and for Canada for that matter, when
    things like this happen. It only takes a few to spoil the image of 
    "Toronto the Good". Please don't get me wrong, Toronto does have it's
    problems, but maybe not to the same degree as most large cities.
    
    I certainly hope these differences of opinion work itself out, not only
    here in Toronto and Canada, but in LA as well....
     
564.2Toronto riot detailsTROOA::BROOKSTue May 05 1992 10:1789
    Well, unfortunately you heard correct.  What started off as a
    essentially anti-racism rally in front of the U.S. consulate on
    University avenue (one of the main thoroughfares to the financial core,
    and really quite an attractive street-good for parades, caribana, etc)
    turned into a peaceful march that turned ugly.  I'm not quite sure why
    the U.S. embassy was picked as a protest spot, but it must have to do
    with the Rodney King verdict in L.A.  
    
    The protesters then wound their way to Yonge and Bloor (probably the
    busiest street corner in the city (it's also where the two subway lines
    intersect) to stage a sit-in.  
    
    I should mention at this point that there was a shooting of a black
    drug suspect on Saturday night by a white police officer.  The killed
    man was an illegal immigrant, wielding a 12" knife and was in the
    possession of crack cocaine.  Apparently, a warning shot was fired
    (non-standard practice) before he was shot at close range.  The area he
    was killed in was not an area I would proudly show tourists to this
    great city as it has a large drug reputation.  In fact, crime
    statistics released shortly showed that area reported an increase in
    crimes over the previous year.  
    
    Anyways, after the sit-in, the 'protesters' who were of white AND black
    colour (I think) marched down yonge street (sort of like the
    Kurfurstendam (sp?) in Berlin, or the Picadilly circus area in London. 
    Although I have been to Geneva, I can't think of any area that you
    might be able to compare it to.  On their way their numbers swelled
    from the original crowd size of about 1000 protesters at the embassy to
    5-800 mostly young people.  Several stores had bricks thrown through
    their windows, a few electronic (good for smash and grab type of
    shopping) had their windows cleared out, hotdog vendors had their carts
    flipped over and trashed,  apparently a truck was set on fire. 
    I don't think that many were injured, but about 50 were arrested and
    ~100 stores damaged.  
    
    I watched with fascination and revulsion at the TV reports showing the
    marchers walking up Yonge street.  I did not get the impression of
    racial rage, but more of a typical saturday night gone very, very bad. 
    I have walked the length of the famous 'yonge street strip' many times,
    and can attest to the level of tension that hangs over the street. 
    This sort of rampage could have happened before but just never had the
    right spark to set it off.  Even that statement isn't really correct,
    in that, as I said before, I don't think race was the entire motivator
    of the mindless destruction.  Unemployment in Toronto and Canada in
    general is still at around 10% (far too high for comforts sake) and the
    recession has hit Canada far harder than the U.S.  As a result, there
    exists in Toronto an underclass of 'street kids' that provide a good
    resource pool for social discontent.  (sounds a bit deep, doesn't it)
    
    There were many sane heads in the crowd trying to urge them not to do
    the stupid thing, but of course the mob-mentality prevailed.  
    
    The protest started at around 5/6 PM and the streets weren't cleared
    until 11/12PM.  
    
    Final points:
    
    If it had been raining really hard, this wouldn't have happened.  Since
    it was a very nice day, people came out to 'participate'.
    
    The police chief was in Ottawa at a dinner thing.  He cut it short to
    return, but I am not impressed with him nor his reaction.  It is time
    he gets the boot.  Additionally, the mayor June Rowlands reaction was
    almost laughible in its' attempt to be serious.  
    
    The police force is far too white for a city that until recently was a
    world-leader in multicultural urban living.  There has been a large
    amount of immigration coming to this city for the last 20 years,
    starting with Italians, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Jamiacans and other
    Caribean countries, and most recently, Hong Kong chinese.  The Greater
    Toronto Area is growing quite rapidly and its face is changing just as
    fast.  While there are certainly no ghettos there are communities where
    a white majority would feel a minority.  It's time to make a concerted
    effort (small efforts have been going on for 1 or 2 years now) to make
    the police force more representative of the community they 'serve and
    protect'.  If this means reverse racism for a short time, then so be
    it.  
    
    It wasn't only a Black crowd.  In fact the front page of Toronto Star
    had a picture splashed the complete width showing a store window being
    looted, and 2 of the 5 kids (all couldn't be more than 20 yrs old) were
    white.  
    
    Lastly, if anyone is planning on a convention in Toronto, they probably
    won't have as hard a time in getting accomodations; unfortunately.
    
    Comments please.
    
    Doug
564.3KAOFS::B_VANVALKENBTue May 05 1992 10:188
    The demonstration was quite peacable until dusk at which time the
    rowdies joined in.
    
    Just a poor example of "monkey see monkey do". Hey look at that rioting
    ang looting on TV don't that look like fun.
    
    Brian V
    
564.4In Toronto?!?!BAKBAY::FRITZWed May 06 1992 12:5218
    For what it's worth...related to the story, a member of the jury was
    interviewed and she stated that she felt the jury had their minds
    made up before the deliberations.  She was voting for "guilty" on
    one of the convictions, but was mocked and pressured to come out
    with a "not guilty" verdict.  
    
    She quoted one jurer "he had it coming"
    
    Could there be a mis-trial at this point?
    
    I was amazed that there were some outbreaks of violence in TO.  On my
    many visits to Canada I've always viewed TO to be very peacefull and
    friendly.  This event doesn't change my view, but it grounds me in 
    terms of violence can happen anywhere given the elements of a riot.
    
    Rf
    
    
564.5monkey see, monkey mindlessly followsTROOA::BROOKSWed May 06 1992 13:148
    re -.3
    
    When one kid was asked why he was throwing rocks at Police last night
    when a low-cost movie night occurs (every Tuesday) he replied "because
    it's fun and everybody is doing it" (or something to that effect).
    
    Stupid kids.....
    Doug
564.6FSCORE::PAVEZKADrink Canada Dry....I'm tryingThu May 07 1992 12:414
    I heard that the demonstration was peaceful until a group of 
    `Skinheads' got into the act.
    
    pete