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Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

433.0. "Expos-Blue Jays Scores" by DBCIC1::EGRI () Tue Apr 16 1991 09:37

    This is a request from an ex-pat living in Dublin, Ireland. Any
    chance of having the daily Expos and Blue Jays scores posted in
    this topic.
    
    Many thanks.
    
    Ted Egri.
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433.1They don't play each other Ted... 8')HABS11::MASONExplaining is not understandingTue Apr 16 1991 09:411
    
433.2DBCIC1::EGRITue Apr 16 1991 11:2515
    You're EVIL, Gary!
    
    Good to hear from you though. Are you well? Hope so. 
    
    How do you think Les Habitants will fare against the Bs? I don't
    feel very confident. I think they can win but also feel they are
    making too many mental mistakes. Just hope they can stay out of
    the penalty box. Power play has vastly improved over last years
    ( not hard to do that, says you) so maybe that will help. Should
    be interesting I just hope it doesn't slide into the kind of mess
    between Chicago and Minny.
    
    Keep in touch. All the best to you and yours and Ryan's.
    
    Ted.
433.3TROA09::GOBRIENBlue Jays tickets accepted hereTue Apr 16 1991 13:119
    Sunday
    
    Toronto	9	Milwaukee	0
    New York	7	Montreal	1
    
    Monday
    
    Toronto	4	Detroit		3
    St.Louis	5	Montreal	4
433.4DBCIC1::EGRITue Apr 16 1991 13:135
    Well it's nice to see the Jays doin' the business.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Glenn.
433.5KAOM25::RUSHTONThe frumious BandersnatchTue Apr 16 1991 14:0213
.0>> ...ex-pat...
.0>>    Ted

.4>>  Glenn.

Why're you changing names?  First Pat, then Ted, now Glenn.

Will the real Mr. Egri please stand up.



Mr. Frozen Road Apple

433.6DBCIC1::EGRIWed Apr 17 1991 13:0410
    Hi Pat,
    
    Although it may sound confusing but I'm still me, Ted that is.
    6 weeks to go, Patrick. 10 for me.
    
    I'se gettin' replies but I ain't gettin' no scores.
    
    What's this Mr. Frozen Road Apple.
    
    Ted.
433.7POLAR::RICHARDSONSick in a balanced sort of wayThu Apr 18 1991 13:5710
    Look, strange women lying about in ponds, distributing swords, is no
    basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power is derived
    from a mandate from the masses, not by some farcical aquatic ceremony!

    You can't wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart
    threw a sword at you!

    HRH Frozen Road Apple XIV


433.8Getting back on topic ....TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Fri Apr 19 1991 14:3940
Re: .0

Ted, you should have known better than to ask any sort of reasonable 
question in this notesfile!  Judging from the replies you've already 
received, I suspect you've given up hope of finding out the scores.

But, nil desperandum!!  Here are all the Jay's scores to date, plus their 
overall record and position in the A.L. East.  I'll post more results, if I 
can, on a regular basis.

Peter B.


Date       Opponents              Result    Score    Record      %age    Posn.
----	   ---------		  ------    -----    ------	 ----	 -----

 8-Apr	   Boston Red Sox	     L	     2-6       0-1	0.000	   7
 9-Apr	   Boston Red Sox	     W	     4-3       1-1	0.500	   5
10-Apr	   Boston Red Sox	     W	     5-3       2-1	0.667	   2

11-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     W	     7-3       3-1	0.750	   1
12-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     W	     5-4       4-1	0.800	   1
13-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     L	     3-7       4-2	0.667	   1
14-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     W	     9-0       5-2	0.714	   1

15-Apr	   Detroit Tigers	     W	     4-3       6-2	0.750	   1
16-Apr	   Detroit Tigers	     L	     2-6       6-3	0.667	   1
17-Apr	   Detroit Tigers	     L	     4-5       6-4	0.600	   1 *

19-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     )
20-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     )	This weekend's series, in Milwaukee
21-Apr	   Milwaukee Brewers	     )


*  The loss to Detroit on 17-Apr was especially embarrassing!  Jays led 4-1, 
   bottom of the 9th with 2 out and nobody on.  However, Duane Ward managed 
   to give up a 3 run homer to tie the score.  In the bottom of the 10th, 
   Pat Borders committed an error to send the runner to third base, then 
   gave up a passed ball for Detroit to win the game.  Ah well, you win 
   some, you lose some!
433.9DBCIC1::EGRIMon Apr 22 1991 08:0213
    Hi Peter,
    
    Many thanks for bringing the note back to ground and for the scores.
    You wouldn't happen to have the same kind of info on the Expos too,
    would you? I know that's asking a lot. Thanks again.
    
    Ted.
    
    I'm still really confude about Glenn going on about Arthur and the
    Lady of the Lake. Can you see any kind of connection between that
    and the contents of this note? I can't.
    
     
433.10C'mon Glenn, write sumthin original...KAOM25::RUSHTONThe frumious BandersnatchMon Apr 22 1991 10:5716
    <<I'm still really confude about Glenn going on about Arthur and the
    <<Lady of the Lake. Can you see any kind of connection between that
    <<and the contents of this note? I can't.


	Glenn happened to have a copy of th'Complete Book of Words of
	Monty Python' in front of him and just copied the first page
	he turned to.  No originality for that lad.   can'tHe say anything
	unless someone said or wrote it firs.  I mean, look at the
	name he used 'HRH Frozen od Apple IV', he even copied my
	nomde plume.


	Mr. Frozen Road Apple    
     

433.11Maybe he thought the WCT was the Holy Grail... 8')HABS11::MASONExplaining is not understandingMon Apr 22 1991 13:241
    
433.12SUBWAY::DAVIDSONBAN Member; Ban Acronyms NowMon Apr 22 1991 18:285
    You can get all the scores as well as a lot of other info via the
    usenet. Try the conference CLO::VNEWS and, once you install the
    software, the group clari.sports.baseball
    
    Have fun!
433.13Baseball notes conferenceCOGITO::HILLTue Apr 23 1991 13:252
    Or you can try ASABET::BASEBALL (I don't know how to do that KP7
    thing...)
433.14Jays scores, April 19-28TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Tue May 07 1991 11:1160
19-Apr -- Milwaukee Brewers (at Milwaukee)  W 5-2
	2 homers for John Olerud; Dave Steib pitches a complete game.

20-Apr -- Milwaukee Brewers (at Milwaukee)  W 4-2
	Jimmy Key gives up 6 hits over 7 innings; has 3 wins in 3 starts.  
	Duane Ward gets 2nd save of the season.

21-Apr -- Milwaukee Brewers (at Milwaukee)  L 8-11 (10 innings)
	Embarassing loss!!  Jays led 8-3, bottom of the 8th -- the bullpen 
	gave up 7 walks and 8 runs to blow it.

22-Apr -- Boston Red Sox (at Boston)  L 4-6
	Jays led 4-1 at one point, but couldn't hold on for the win.  Joe 
	Carter hit 3rd homer of the season.

23-Apr -- Boston Red Sox (at Boston)  L 0-3
	Roger Clemens gets 4th win in 4 games; no runs scored off him in 
	his last 30 innings pitched; his ERA is now 0.28!

24-Apr -- Boston Red Sox (at Boston)  W 6-1
	Jays "walked" this one -- literally.  Boston gave up 7 walks, of 
	which 4 eventually came in to score.  Dave Steib's record now 2-2.

25-Apr -- Detroit Tigers (at Toronto)  W 3-2
	Jays win a tight one, thanks to Joe Carter's bases-loaded 2 run 
	single, Jimmy Key's 4th straight win, and Duane Ward's 3rd save.

26-Apr -- Detroit Tigers (at Toronto)  W 5-4
	Jays lead 5-1 at one point, but nearly blew it.  Duane Ward was the 
	hero again, getting his 4th save.

27-Apr -- Detroit Tigers (at Toronto)  L 2-4
	Costly 2-run error by John Olerud was the difference between the 2 
	teams.  The game was watched by a regular season record crowd of 
	50,211.

28-Apr -- Detroit Tigers (at Toronto)  W 9-6
	Glenallen Hill went 4-for-4 to pace Jays' 15-hit attack over the 
	Tigers.  Duane Ward's 3rd save of the series (5th in total).

Note:	The 4-game series against Detroit was watched by over 200,000 
	people; the last 3 games each attracted over 50,000 spectators.



A. L. East standings as at Apr-28
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home    Away

Toronto		12	8	.600	---	6-4	 W1	8-3	4-5
Boston		10	7	.588	  �	8-2	 W2	6-4	4-3
Milwaukee	 9	9	.500	 2	5-5	 L1	4-5	5-4
Detroit		 8	9	.471	 2�	5-5	 L1	4-4	4-5
Cleveland	 7	9	.438	 3	4-6	 W1	1-5	6-4
New York	 6     10	.375	 4	4-6	 L2	3-4	3-6
Baltimore	 6     10	.375	 4	3-7	 W1	2-5	4-5


Peter B.
433.15Jays scores April 30 - May 5TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Tue May 07 1991 11:1246
30-Apr -- Texas Rangers (at Texas)  L 5-8
	Mark Whiten's career high 4 rbi's pulled Jays back from a 3-0 
	deficit, but they were unable to hang on for the win.

1-May  -- Texas Rangers (at Texas)  L 0-3
	44-year old Nolan Ryan stole the show with his 7th career no- 
	hitter, including 16 strikeouts.  Ryan is the oldest pitcher to 
	throw a no-hitter; the previous oldest was --- Nolan Ryan, with his 
	6th no-hitter!

2-May  -- Kansas City Royals (at Kansas)  W 3-1
	Roberto Alomar's homer, plus 2-hit pitching from Todd Stottlemeyer 
	(his 3rd win), Mike Timlin, and Duane Ward (his 6th save) snapped 
	the Jay's 2-game losing streak. 

3-May  -- Kansas City Royals (at Kansas)  W 5-1
	David Wells scattered 8 hits over 8 innings as the Jays kept pace 
	with Boston and Milwaukee on top of the A. L. East. 

4-May  -- Kansas City Royals (at Kansas)  L 5-6
	Jays trailed 6-0 after 4 innings, but battled back to within 1 run 
	of the Royals thanks to a 4-run 7th innings.  Mark Whiten went 
	3-for-4; he's off to a great start to the season!

5-May  -- Kansas City Royals (at Kansas)  W 3-0
	7 2/3 strong innings for Dave Steib (now 3-2 on the season) as the 
	Jays sealed the win with late runs in the 8th and 9th innings.  
	Duane Ward got his 7th save of the year.



A. L. East standings as at May-5
--------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		14	8	.636	---	7-3	 W3	6-4    8-4
Toronto		15     11	.577	 1	6-4	 W1	8-3    7-8
Detroit		13     10	.565	 1�	6-4	 W1	6-5    7-5
Milwaukee	13     11	.542	 2	7-3	 L2	8-7    5-4
Cleveland	10     11	.476	 3�	5-5	 W2	1-5    9-6
Baltimore	 8     14	.364	 6	4-6	 L2	3-7    5-7
New York	 7     14	.333	 6�	3-7	 L2	3-4    4-10


Peter B.
433.16CRATE::ROWELLI&#039;m gonna be a Dad !!!! 8^)Thu May 09 1991 06:035
    Peter,
    
      These are great, Thanks. Keep em coming.
    
    Wayne
433.17Jays scores, May 7-12TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed May 15 1991 12:3657
7-May  -- Texas Rangers (at Toronto)  L 2-3
	Despite Roberto Alomar's 2-run homer, Jays still lost, mainly 
	because of a Devon White error, and 9 men left on base.

8-May  -- Texas Rangers (at Toronto)  W 4-2
	Nolan Ryan's attempt at back-to-back no-hitters was foiled by 
	Roberto Alomar's 2-run triple in the 3rd inning.  The win went to 
	Todd Stottlemyre (now 4-0), and Duane Ward got his 8th save.

9-May  -- Chicago White Sox (at Toronto)  W 2-0
	A strong 8 inning 3-hit shutout from David Wells, Duane Ward's 9th 
	save, and 2 rbi's for Joe Carter (1 hr, 1 single) made the 
	difference in this game.

10-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Toronto)  L 3-5 (12 innings)
	Roberto Alomar's heroics (hr bottom of the 9th with 2 out to tie 
	the game, hr bottom of the 11th with 1 out also to tie the game) 
	couldn't save this one for the Jays.

11-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Toronto)  W 5-2
	Despite trailing 2-0 early, the Jays rallied for the win, thanks to 
	Glenallen Hill's 2-run homer, Dave Steib's 4th win (now 4-2 on the 
	season) and Duane Ward's 10th save (8th in last 8 tries).

12-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Toronto)  W 4-2
	A 3-run 2nd inning was all the Jays really needed, ably assisted by 
	Jimmy Key's win (now 5-2 this season), and -- you've guessed it! -- 
	Duane Ward's 11th save.


Update
------

The Jays are handily placed to challenge Boston, despite the fact that they 
have been without three of their star players -- Kelly Gruber, Tom Henke 
and Ken Dayley.  Henke has started his recovery in Dunedin AAA, Gruber 
should be fit within a week, and Dayley hopes to play in an exhibition game 
in Ottawa on Thursday.  Expect the Jays to play even better when these 
three return!



A. L. East standings as at May-12
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		18     10	.643	---	7-3	 L1    10-6    8-4
Toronto		19     13	.594	 1	7-3	 W2    12-5    7-8
Detroit		16     13	.552	 2�	6-4	 L3	8-5    8-8
Milwaukee	13     16	.448	 5�	3-7	 L7	8-10   5-6
Cleveland	11     15	.423	 6	4-6	 W1	2-7    9-8
New York	10     17	.370	 7�	4-6	 W1	5-5    5-12
Baltimore	10     18	.357	 8	4-6	 L1	3-7    7-11


Peter B.
433.18Thanks PeterGVA01::ATKINSONJust the facts kidThu May 16 1991 11:416
    Peter,
    
    Thank you for the great reports. 
    
    Alan Atkinson
    Geneva, Switzerland
433.19Jays scores, May 13-19TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed May 22 1991 11:4567
13-May -- Kansas City Royals (at Toronto)  W 4-2
	Todd Stottlemyre kept his hot streak going, pitching a 6-hitter 
	over 8 1/3 innings to register his 5th straight win of the season; 
	Duane Ward, of course, got his 12th save!

14-May -- Kansas City Royals (at Toronto)  W 4-1
	Greg Myers' 2-run homer, David Wells' 4th victory (now 4-3 for the 
	season) and a first major league save to rookie Mike Timlin sealed 
	another fine win for the Jays.

15-May -- Kansas City Royals (at Toronto)  L 4-6
	Jays rookie pitcher, Denis Boucher, is still looking for his first 
	major league win, but the main damage was caused by a 3-run homer 
	off Bob McDonald in the 8th inning.  A late rally by the Jays (1 
	run in the 8th, 2 runs in the 9th) just came up short.

17-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Chicago)  L 3-5
	Not one of the Jays' better games this season as they struggled to 
	get their bats working.  Mike Timlin took the loss with 4 walks in 
	2/3 of an inning.

18-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Chicago)  W 9-2
	The Jays matched their season high runs total in a game as rookie 
	Ed Sprague hit his first major league home run.  Jimmy Key improved 
	his record to 6-2.

19-May -- Chicago White Sox (at Chicago)  L 4-5
	A wild game at Comiskey Park!  After a home run from John Olerud, 
	Mark Whiten was hit by a pitch from starter Jack McDowell.  Whiten 
	charged the mound and laid a Mike Tyson style hook to McDowell's 
	head; both teams invaded the pitch!  Whiten and McDowell were 
	ejected from the game.  When the game restarted, Jays could not 
	hold on to their lead, and Mike Timlin again took the loss.


Update
------

The Jays must be glad to get out of Chicago this week!  The punch up 
between Whiten and McDowell was bad enough (Whiten will probably get a 
suspension in the near future), but both catchers suffered during the last 
game.  Greg Myers injured two of his fingers when attempting to take a 
ball, and Pat Borders was unceremoniously knocked over by Robin Ventura 
later in the game -- fortunately Borders managed to hold on to the ball and 
make the out.  Myers will be back for the series against Oakland, and 
Borders will also be available as he only suffered some cuts and minor 
concussion.  More good news is that Tom Henke is back, and pitched an 
inning in Saturday's game with no ill effects.  We still await the return 
of Kelly Gruber; the power of his bat is much needed.  Also on the 
sidelines are Manny Lee (sore ribs) and Rance Mulliniks.


A. L. East standings as at May-19
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		20     14	.588	---	5-5	 L3    12-7    8-7
Toronto		22     16	.579	---	6-4	 L1    14-6    8-10
Detroit		17     18	.486	 3�	2-8	 W1	9-7    8-11
Milwaukee	17     18	.486	 3�	4-6	 W1	8-10   9-8
New York	13     21	.382	 7	5-5	 W1	8-9    5-12
Cleveland	12     21	.364	 7�	2-8	 L2	3-13   9-8
Baltimore	12     22	.353	 8	3-7	 L2	5-11   7-11


Peter B.
433.20we win a series in OaklandTROA01::GOBRIENBlue Jays tickets accepted hereThu May 23 1991 10:308
    Jays take two of three in Oakland, but Boston sweeps, so the Jays are
    one game back.  Both teams are playing around .600 ball, while the rest
    of the division is below .500.  Stieb and Ward combined on a
    five-hitter, but a bad call in the first inning allowed the winning run
    in the 2-1 loss.  Oakland had two hits after the first.  Joe 'Mr. RBI'
    Carter drove in the only run.
    
    Glenn
433.21Jays scores, May 20-26TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed May 29 1991 10:5363
20-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Oakland)  W 1-0
	A superbly pitched game, and probably Jays' best game of the year.  
	David Wells shut the A's down on 2 hits over 7 innings, Duane Ward 
	and Tom Henke pitched 1 inning each (the save for Henke).  Bob 
	Welch can feel a bit unlucky for Oakland, pitching a complete game 
	4-hitter, but still losing.

21-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Oakland)  W 11-7
	At last the Jays' fifth starter won a game this season!  Jim Acker 
	(taking over from Denis Boucher) went 5 innings for the win, and 
	the Jays' bats had their most productive outing of the season -- 
	the biggest hit of the night being Greg Myers' 3-run double in a 
	6-run 4th inning.

22-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Oakland)  L 1-2
	Another tightly pitched ball game, Dave Stieb unluckily taking the 
	loss on a dubious call in the first inning that cost the Jays a 
	double play.  Stieb struck out a season high 8 batters.

24-May -- California Angels (at California)  W 3-2
	Jays left this one late.  Trailing 0-2 in the top of the 8th, they 
	rallied for 3 runs, the winning run coming on a bases-loaded walk 
	to Pat Tabler.  Mike Timlin (4-2 for the season) got the win.

25-May -- California Angels (at California)  L 0-5
	Jays had the misfortune to come up against Kirk McCaskill at his 
	best.  He shut the Jays down on 4 hits over 7 innings, and never 
	looked in trouble.  Todd Stottlemyre took his first loss of the 
	season (now 5-1).

26-May -- California Angels (at California)  L 2-6
	The Angels scored early and often, leading 5-0 after 3 innings, 
	then coasted home for an easy win.  Jays' only real chance to get 
	to starter Mark Langston was in the 4th when Manuel Lee grounded 
	out with the bases loaded.


Update
------
The Jays now return home after a 9-game road-trip, with a 4-5 record.  Not 
as good as they would have liked, but they were helped by Boston's similar 
record last week, and the Jays are still very much in contention.  Injuries 
continue to plague the Jays, but Tom Henke and Ken Dayley are back now, 
with Kelly Gruber now on a day-to-day basis.  When all their injuries are 
cleared up, Jays should be looking to put some distance between themselves 
and Boston at the top of the A. L. East.


A. L. East standings as at May-26
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		24     16	.585	---	4-6	 L2    15-7    9-10
Toronto		25     19	.568	  �	4-6	 L2    14-6   11-13
Detroit		22     20	.524	 2�	6-4	 W2    14-9    8-11
Milwaukee	20     22	.476	 4�	5-5	 W1    11-11   9-11
New York	17     23	.425	 6�	5-5	 W4	8-9    9-14
Cleveland	15     25	.375	 8�	4-6	 L1	5-14  10-11
Baltimore	13     27	.325	10�	2-8	 L4	5-14   8-13


Peter B.
433.22Jays scores, May 28-June 2TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Tue Jun 04 1991 11:4472
28-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Toronto)  L 4-8
	A dubious umpiring call in the third inning robbed Jays of a double 
	play -- and Jose Canseco then hit a 3-run homer.  Although the Jays 
	fought back, they were unable to recover from this and dropped 
	their third straight loss to fall one game back of Boston.  A 
	baseball record crowd of 50,299 was at the SkyDome for this game.

29-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Toronto)  W 8-3
	Another 50,000+ crowd took the season's attendance at the SkyDome 
	over 1 million in only the 22nd game of the year.  A tremendous 
	game -- 25 hits, 14 to the Jays.  The Jays trailed 1-3 in the 4th 
	inning, then Joe Carter hit a 2-run homer to tie the score, and 
	Jays never trailed again.  Jimmy Key got the win (now 7-2), and Tom 
	Henke got his 5th save.

30-May -- Oakland Athletics (at Toronto)  L 6-8
	Another sell-out crowd (in fact, the next game for which tickets 
	are available isn't until June 28!) saw a fine see-saw game, with 
	the lead changing hands several times.  Mookie Wilson hit a monster 
	3-run homer to give the Jays the lead 4-3, then they extended the 
	lead to 6-4, but a bases-loaded walk by Duane Ward gave Oakland the 
	lead in the 8th, and they never looked back.

31-May -- California Angels (at Toronto)  W 5-1
	A fine game from David Wells -- his first career complete game, and 
	he also matched a career high 9 strike-outs.  Wells is now 6-4 for 
	the season, 5-1 for May.  Devon White hit his first home run for 
	the Jays, ironically against his old team mates!

 1-Jun -- California Angels (at Toronto)  L 8-11
	Not a pretty game to watch, unless you like plenty of runs and hits 
	-- Jays got 16 of those hits, but 3 errors, and a grand-slam home 
	run given up by former Angel, Willie Frazer, to Dave Winfield, were 
	the main factors in the Jays' loss.  Home runs to Joe Carter and 
	John Olerud.

 2-Jun -- California Angels (at Toronto)  L 2-7
	Dave Winfield was the thorn in the Jays' side again, hitting a 
	3-run homer off loser Jim Acker who, apart from that, pitched 
	quite well.  Joe Carter, whose bat seems to be coming alive again, 
	hit his 8th home run of the season.

Update
------
First the bad news!  Kelly Gruber is still on the DL, and could be for 
another month.  Dave Stieb also went on the DL, for the first time in his 
career, with tendinitis in his shoulder.  Jays desperately need these two 
all-star players back.

Now, the good news!  The attendances for the 6 home games against Oakland 
and California totaled 301,660 -- for the Oakland games the crowds were 
50,299, 50,262 and 50,271; for the California games the crowds were 50,252, 
50,255 and 50,261.  And, the even better news is that, although the Jays 
are only 6-9 for their last 15 games, Boston is playing just as badly, so 
the Jays are still tied for the lead in the A. L. East.


A. L. East standings as at Jun-2
--------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		26     22	.542	---	3-7	 L2    16-10  10-12
Toronto		27     23	.540	---	3-7	 L2    16-10  11-13
Detroit		23     25	.479	 3	4-6	 L5    14-9    9-16
Milwaukee	23     25	.479	 3	6-4	 L1    13-12  10-13
New York	21     25	.457	 4	8-2	 W1    12-11   9-14
Cleveland	19     27	.413	 6	5-5	 W3	8-14  11-13
Baltimore	18     29	.383	 7�	5-5	 W2	7-15  11-14


Peter B.
433.23thanks!!!SHIRE::ELLISThank you, Peter Bray!!!Wed Jun 05 1991 04:351
433.24Blush, blush!!TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed Jun 05 1991 13:3910
Re: .23 from SHIRE::ELLIS "Thank you, Peter Bray!!!"
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ah, gee, you're too kind!!  Now I'm all embarrassed!!!

Hey, can I claim to being the first noter to have a P-N named after him?

Yeahhhhh, fame at last!!!!!!

Peter B.
433.25Jays scores, June 3-9TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Tue Jun 11 1991 10:5476
 3-Jun -- New York Yankees (at New York)  W 5-3
	A looong game, thanks to a 2-hour rain delay in the 6th inning.  
	But this didn't affect the Jays, who won their first meeting of the 
	season against the Yankees aided by home runs for Mookie Wilson and 
	Joe Carter (his 3rd in three games), Jimmy Key's victory (now 8-2) 
	and Tom Henke's 6th save.

 4-Jun -- New York Yankees (at New York)  L 3-5
	Bottom of the 4th, Jays were cruising along, leading 3-0, with Todd 
	Stottlemyre pitching a perfect game, having retired 11 straight.  
	Then the roof fell in!!  Don Mattingley hit a long home run, and 
	the Yankees kept picking away at the lead and, finally, won it with 
	ease.  Stottlemyre (now 5-2) took the loss.

 5-Jun -- New York Yankees (at New York)  W 4-1
	With Boston losing again, this was a BIG win, stretching the Jays' 
	lead atop the A. L. East to 1� games.  David Wells overcame a shaky 
	start to run his record to 7-4, Glenallen Hill hit a home run, and 
	Tom Henke picked up his 7th save.

 6-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Baltimore)  L 4-6
	The fifth starter problem struck the Jays again.  Jays enjoyed 
	early 2-0 and 4-2 leads, but the Orioles knocked out starter Jim 
	Acker with a bat-around, 4-run 5th inning and that was enough to 
	earn them the win.

 7-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Baltimore)  L 4-6
	Once again the Jays enjoyed an early 2-run lead, but allowed 
	Baltimore to get back in the game, giving the loss to Juan Guzman 
	(pitching in place of Dave Stieb -- tendinitis)  How much longer 
	can Jays keep going with such shaky back-up pitching?

 8-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Baltimore)  W 8-4
	This game was tied 2-2 going into the 8th inning, but a 6-run 8th, 
	during which Jays sent 11 men to the plate, gave them a much 
	needed, if somewhat flattering, win.  Jimmy Key ran his record to 
	an amazing 9-2 for the season -- he must be a certainty for the 
	All-Star Game.  Roberto Alomar tied a Blue Jays record in this 
	game by stealing 4 bases.

 9-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Baltimore)  W 3-2
	Another fine pitching performance from Todd Stottlemyre, going 7 
	innings, giving up only 3 hits to run his record to 6-2.  Duane 
	Ward almost blew the game in the 9th, so Tom Henke came on to 
	record the last out and his 8th straight save.


Update
------
The Jays are really starting to hurt, especially in the pitching area.  
Dave Stieb is out for at least one more start, and Jays will now try middle 
reliever Mike Timlin for the up-coming series at Cleveland.  There are 
several trade rumours flying around, one concerning Cleveland's Greg 
Swindell; but it depends what Jays have to give up to get him -- one rumour 
has Tom Henke leaving the Jays!!

On a brighter note, despite their losses to Baltimore, Jays now hold a 1� 
game lead over Boston -- it's interesting to note, however, that if the 
Jays were in the A. L. West, they would only be in 5th place!


A. L. East standings as at Jun-9
--------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Toronto		31     26	.544	---	5-5	 W2    16-10  15-16
Boston		28     26	.519	 1�	3-7	 L1    16-10  12-16
Detroit		27     28	.491	 3	4-6	 L1    16-10  11-18
New York	25     27	.481	 3�	7-3	 W3    16-13   9-14
Milwaukee	23     31	.426	 6�	2-8	 L7    13-12  10-19
Cleveland	21     32	.396	 8	5-5	 L4    10-16  11-16
Baltimore	20     34	.370	 9�	4-6	 L2     9-17  11-17


Peter B.
433.26Jays scores, June 11-16TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed Jun 19 1991 11:0469
11-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Cleveland)  L 1-2 (12 innings)
	A superbly pitched ball-game between David Wells and Greg Swindell. 
	The Jays scored their run in the 3rd, then Wells kept the Indians 
	at bay until the bottom of the 8th.  Duane Ward, Jim Acker and Ken 
	Dayley lived dangerously until the 12th inning, when Dayley loaded 
	the bases, and then hit a batter to drive in the winning run.

12-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Cleveland)  W 1-0
	Have the Jays solved their fifth starter problem?  Rookie Mike 
	Timlin pitched an excellent game, limiting the Indians to 1 hit 
	over 6 innings; Tom Henke picked up his 9th save.  But the best 
	news of the game was the return of Kelly Gruber at third base.

13-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Cleveland)  W 1-0
	Jimmy Key pitched probably his best game of the season to take his 
	record to 10-2.  He retired the first seven batters he faced, then 
	gave up back-to-back singles in the 3rd inning, then retired the 
	last 20 batters in order -- no hit batsmen, no walks, no errors.  
	Key's control this season is awesome; he was always ahead of the 
	batter, and never looked in any sort of trouble.

14-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Toronto)  W 9-1
	Jays scored early in this game, leading 7-0 after 4 innings.  Todd 
	Stottlemyre scattered 8 hits through 8 innings for the win (now 7-2 
	for the season).  Kelly Gruber had 3 hits including a homer, John 
	Olerud snapped out of his slump with 3 hits, a double  a triple and 
	a home run.

15-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Toronto)  L 4-8
	Juan Guzman walked 4 batters, 3 of which came home to score, and 
	this wildness was a main contributor to the Jays' loss.  They 
	rallied from a 1-5 deficit to 4-5 on Joe Carter's 11th homer of the 
	season, but a 3-run homer by Devereaux in the 6th inning sealed the 
	win for Baltimore.

16-Jun -- Baltimore Orioles (at Toronto)  L 8-13
	Not a pretty game!  Jays opened a 3-0 lead in the 1st inning, then 
	David Wells got ejected for arguing a call.  Baltimore leaped out 
	to a 7-3 lead, Jays tied it at 8-8, but then Duane Ward gave up a 
	grand slam in the 7th to Joe Orsulak to shatter Jays' hopes.


Update
------
The Jays just can't get a decent win streak going -- if they'd been able to 
put 5 or 6 wins together a couple of times, they would be well out in 
front.  The only consolation is that Boston is playing just as badly.  Good 
news about Dave Stieb's shoulder (tendinitis) is that it's much better -- 
bad news is that he now has a bad back!!  Jays continue their search for a 
fifth starter, but I feel what they really need is some good middle order 
relief; Acker, Dayley and Fraser have been sadly lacking when they come on 
to pitch.


A. L. East standings as at Jun-16
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak  Home   Away

Boston		33     27	.550	---	7-3	 W3    19-10  14-17
Toronto		34     29	.540	  �	5-5	 L2    17-12  17-17
Detroit		30     32	.484	 4	5-5	 W1    16-10  14-22
Milwaukee	27     33	.450	 6	4-6	 W1    14-13  13-20
New York	25     33	.431	 7	3-7	 L6    16-13   9-20
Baltimore	22     38	.367	11	4-6	 W2     9-20  13-18
Cleveland	22     38	.367	11	1-9	 L5    11-21  11-17


Peter B.
433.27Jays scores, June 18-24TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed Jun 26 1991 10:4680
18-Jun -- New York Yankees (at Toronto)  L 2-4  (Attendance 50,271)
	A shaky game for Mike Timlin, sending his record to 5-4 for the 
	year.  But Jays did themselves no favours by having three men 
	picked off base.  The Jays trailed 0-3 after 2� innings, pulled 
	back to 2-3, but just couldn't catch the Yankees.

19-Jun -- New York Yankees (at Toronto)  L 0-3  (Attendance 50,281)
	This was the 4th straight loss for the Jays; thankfully, Boston is 
	playing just as badly!  This game was tied 0-0 going into the 8th 
	inning, but a 2-run homer to ex-Blue Jay Jesse Barfield did the 
	damage as Jimmy Key gave up 3 runs to take the loss, and run his 
	season record to 10-3.

20-Jun -- New York Yankees (at Toronto)  W 6-1  (Attendance 50,256)
	Todd Stottlemyre was shaky early on (4 hits in the first 2 
	innings), but he steadied up nicely and gave up only 8 hits in 
	total to take the win, his 8th of the season.  But the real hero 
	was Joe Carter who hit two long solo homers to raise his batting 
	average to .301.

21-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Toronto)  W 8-4  (Attendance 50,283)
	Not a pretty game to watch!  In the first inning Jays committed 3 
	errors, but only conceded 1 run.  Jays took a 4-1 lead bottom of 
	the first, then let Cleveland get back into the game 4-4.  But Joe 
	Carter and Ed Sprague both hit 2-run homers to give Jays the win.  
	David Wells (8-4) got the win, Tom Henke his 10th save.

22-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Toronto)  W 4-0  (Attendance 50,285)
	A fine game pitched by rookie Juan Guzman, much more control than 
	his previous 2 outings.  He gave up 3 hits over 7 innings for his 
	first major league win, backed up by Duane Ward for his 13th save.  
	Joe Carter hit another homer, his 4th in 3 games.

23-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Toronto)  W 3-1  (Attendance 50,275)
	Stop me if you've heard this before, but -- Joe Carter homered 
	again!  His league leading 17th of the year, tying George Bell's 
	club records of 11 homers in a month, and homers in 4 consecutive 
	games.  Mike Timlin pitched well, but the win went to rookie Bob 
	McDonald -- his first in the majors.  Tom Henke picked up his 11th 
	save in 11 attempts.

24-Jun -- Cleveland Indians (at Toronto)  W 4-3  (Attendance 50,263)
	Jays went ahead early, 3-0 in the 3rd, but allowed the Indians to 
	get back to tie it 3-3 in the 6th.  Pat Tabler's sac fly in the 7th 
	won it for the Jays, the win going to Duane Ward (now 1-3) and, of 
	course, Tom Henke picked up his 12th save.  Joe Carter failed to 
	hit a homer, but he did get a double and a sac fly.


Update
------
Not surprisingly, Joe Carter won the A. L. Player of the Week award this 
week.  He hit .409 (9 for 22) with 5 homers, 2 doubles and 7 rbi's.  At 
last the Jays seem to be playing better, with a 5-game win streak, and a 
4-game sweep of the Indians.  Kelly Gruber is back, and starting to hit the 
ball well, but Dave Stieb is out until after the All-Star break.  And, to 
cap it all, the Jays still sell out game after game -- the average 
attendance for this 7-game home stand was just over 50,273!  Maybe they 
still have a shot at topping 4 million at home this year.


A. L. East standings as at Jun-24
---------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak   Home   Away

Toronto		39     31	.557	---	6-4	 W5    22-14  17-17
Boston		36     31	.537	 1�	6-4	 L1    22-14  14-17
Detroit		33     35	.485	 5	5-5	 W1    19-13  14-22
Milwaukee	31     36	.463	 6�	6-4	 W1    19-16  12-20
New York	28     37	.431	 8�	3-7	 L1    17-16  11-21
Baltimore	26     41	.388	11�	6-4	 W3    10-22  16-19
Cleveland	23     43	.348	14	1-9	 L4    11-21  12-22


Peter B.

P.S.	I'm going to be away until Thursday next week, so I hope you 
	baseball-starved people out there can wait until then for the next 
	report!
433.28Jays scores, June 25-July 7TROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed Jul 10 1991 11:15104
25-Jun -- Minnesota Twins (at Minnesota)  L 6-8
	Quite a see-saw game.  Twins took an early 4-0 lead, but the Jays 
	hit back with 5 runs in the 4th inning, including back-to-back 
	homers by Kelly Gruber and John Olerud.  But the Twins retook the 
	lead on Mike Pagliarulo's 2-run homer, and went on to record their 
	11th consecutive home victory.  Todd Stottlemyre took the loss (now 
	8-3).

26-Jun -- Minnesota Twins (at Minnesota)  W 5-2
	Another great pitching performance by David Wells, giving up only a 
	2-run homer in the bottom of the 8th, to go to 9-4 for the year.  
	Tom Henke picked up his 13th save in 13 attempts -- this guy is 
	awesome this year!  Devon White went 3 for 5, Joe Carter 4 for 5.

27-Jun -- Minnesota Twins (at Minnesota)  W 1-0
	Juan Guzman really looks like he may be the Jays' fifth starter, 
	going 7 2/3 innings and giving up just 3 hits for his second win of 
	the year.  Tom Henke, of course, got save #14.  Jays took the 
	series 2-1 from the Twins, which was no mean feat as Minnesota had 
	won 20 of their previous 22 games coming into this series.

28-Jun -- Seattle Mariners (at Toronto)  L 1-3  (Attendance 50,000+)
	Tom Candiotti pitched his first game as a Blue Jay.  A shaky start 
	(he gave up 2 runs in the first inning), but he eventually settled 
	down and looks like a good acquisition, despite taking the loss.

29-Jun -- Seattle Mariners (at Toronto)  W 4-0  (Attendance 50,000+)
	Jimmy Key got the win (now 10-3).  Sorry, no other information 
	available (I was on vacation).

30-Jun -- Seattle Mariners (at Toronto)  W 6-1  (Attendance 50,000+)
	Todd Stottlemyre was one out away from his first major league 
	complete game shut-out, but still got the win to go 9-3 for the 
	season.

 1-Jul -- Seattle Mariners (at Toronto)  W 4-3  (Attendance 50,000+)
	A wild win for the Jays.  They trailed 1-3 bottom of the 9th, but a 
	2-run double from Roberto Alomar tied the game.  Seattle 
	intentionally loaded the bases.  An infield hit should have 
	resulted in the force-out at home plate, but the catcher lifted his 
	foot off the plate too soon, and the winning run scored.

 2-Jul -- Minnesota Twins (at Toronto)  W 4-3  (Attendance 48,676)
	Another come-from-behind win.  Jays trailed 1-3 after 6� innings, 
	but scored once each in the bottom of the 7th, 8th and 9th innings 
	to win.  Duane Ward got the win (now 2-3 for the season).

 3-Jul -- Minnesota Twins (at Toronto)  W 4-0  (Attendance 50,071)
	Tom Candiotti got his first win as a Blue Jay (the first of many, 
	we hope!) as the Jays played long-ball.  Homers to Joe Carter (2) 
	and Devon White in the first four innings were all the Jays needed.

 4-Jul -- Minnesota Twins (at Toronto)  L 0-1  (Attendance 50,293)
	A strong pitching duel between Jimmy Key (who took the loss to go 
	10-4 for the season) and David West who shut the Jays down on just 
	3 hits.

 5-Jul -- Seattle Mariners (at Seattle)  W 2-1
	Todd Stottlemyre, despite 6 2/3 innings of 6-hit pitching, failed 
	to get the win, but he was well supported by Bob McDonald (win #2) 
	and Tom Henke (save #15 in 15 attempts).

 6-Jul -- Seattle Mariners (at Seattle)  W 4-3  (10 innings)
	A game full of errors -- Jays scored two runs on a double error 
	early in the game.  Jays trailed (again!) 2-3 going into the ninth, 
	but tied it to send the game into extra innings.  John Olerud won 
	the game with a solo homer in the top of the tenth.  Mike Timlin 
	picked up his 7th win of the season (against 4 losses) and "Mr. 
	Perfect" (Tom Henke) got save #16.

 7-Jul -- Seattle Mariners (at Seattle)  W 5-2
	Jays tied up their last game before the All-Star break early, 
	scoring all their runs in the first two innings, including a 
	bat-around 4 run second inning (highlighted by John Olerud's 
	monster 2-run homer).  Juan Guzman got his third win with a strong 
	8 innings, giving up just 3 hits and one run.


Update
------
The BIG news of these two weeks was the Jays' second block-buster trade of 
the season.  They sent Mark Whiten, Glenallen Hill, Denis Boucher and a 
fourth player to be named later to Cleveland for ace knuckle-ball pitcher 
Tom Candiotti and a minor-league outfielder.  Quite a gamble for the Jays, 
but, for once, it looks like they're trading for the chance to win the 
World Series, especially as they are burning up the A. L. East, with a 5� 
game lead over Boston at the All-Star break.


A. L. East standings as at Jul-7
--------------------------------

		 W	L	 Pct	 Gb   Last 10  Streak   Home   Away

Toronto		49     34	.590	---	8-2	 W3    27-16  22-18
Boston		42     38	.525	 5�	6-4	 L1    24-19  18-19
Detroit		41     40	.506	 7	7-3	 W1    23-15  18-25
New York	38     40	.487	 8�	7-3	 L1    22-18  16-22
Milwaukee	36     44	.450	11�	3-7	 W1    20-21  16-23
Baltimore	33     47	.413	14�	5-5	 W1    13-25  20-22
Cleveland	26     53	.329	21	2-8	 L1    14-25  12-28


Peter B.
433.29Jays stats at the All-Star breakTROU03::BRAYThank you, Bill W.Wed Jul 10 1991 11:1757
				B A T T I N G
				=============

			 ab	 r	 h	hr	rbi	 avg

Ducey			 17	 3	 6	 0	  1	.353
Carter			321	44	97	19	 59	.302
White			316	56	93	 4	 34	.294
Alomar			321	41	92	 5	 37	.287
Myers			188	17	54	 3	 18	.287
Sprague			121	11	34	 2	 15	.281
Mulliniks		109	19	30	 1	 11	.275
Lee			254	25	66	 0	 17	.260
Wilson			161	16	40	 2	 25	.248
Gruber			130	15	30	 5	 16	.231
Olerud			222	28	51	10	 29	.230
Gonzales		 61	10	14	 1	  6	.230
Borders			127	10	27	 0	  5	.213
Tabler			115	10	24	 1	 14	.209
Bell (Derek)		 14	 1	 1	 0	  0	.071


			       P I T C H I N G
			       ===============

			 w	 l	   ip	 sv	so	 era

MacDonald		 2	 0	 21.2	  0	11	0.83
Henke			 0	 0	 21.2	 16	18	1.23
Key			10	 4	112.2	  0	71	2.23
Candiotti		 8	 7	121.1	  0	96	2.23
Ward			 2	 3	 56.1	 13	69	2.40
Guzman			 3	 2	 34.1	  0	25	2.62
Wells			 9	 4	111.2	  0	63	2.98
Stottlemyre		 9	 3	116.0	  0	65	3.03
Timlin			 7	 4	 64.2	  2	45	3.08
Steib			 4	 3	 59.2	  0	29	3.17
Acker			 2	 4	 55.1	  0	29	5.20
Dayley			 0	 0	  4.1	  0	 3	6.23


			  1 9 9 1   v s .   1 9 9 0
			  =========================

			 w	 l	home att.	dates

1991			49	34	2,090,001	  43
1990			46	37	1,989,808	  43


NOTES:
------

Stats not shown for players who started the season with the Jays, but were 
traded later.

Tom Candiotti's record includes wins/losses while with Cleveland Indians.
433.30How the Jays doin ?MAJORS::ROWELLBuy Now, While Shops Last !Thu Oct 15 1992 05:269
    
    I seem to be unable to access the BASEBALL conferance, so could someone
    bring me up to date on how the Jays are doing/have done ?
    
    Last I heard, they were 3-2 up against Oakland.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Wayne
433.31We DID IT!KAOOA::VLASICThu Oct 15 1992 09:477
    We won game 6 last night, 9-2.
    
    We're off to the World Series!
    
    Go Blue Jays!!
    
    /susan
433.32YippeeeeeMAJORS::ROWELLBuy Now, While Shops Last !Thu Oct 15 1992 09:5610
    Thanks for the good news, susan.
    
    I wish now, that I stuck to my original intention of visiting my Dad
    in Germany next week. I could have watched some of the games on 
    CFTV Lahr. (Well they are recordings, and a day late, but even that is
    better than I could get here in the U.K., unless I bought a Satellite
    dish. I doubt my wife would appreciate that)
    
    Regards,
    Wayne.