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| 386.1 |  | POLAR::RICHARDSON | He who laughs best | Thu Dec 06 1990 15:54 | 3 | 
|  |     I wonder if this will mean another rash of senate appointments?
    
    
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| 386.2 |  | POLAR::RICHARDSON | He who laughs best | Thu Dec 06 1990 15:56 | 8 | 
|  |     What will we call the team should we abolish the senate under new
    reforms?
    
    	The Ottawa Filibusters?
    
    Oh Gee, st
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| 386.3 |  | TRCO01::FINNEY | Keep cool, but do not freeze | Thu Dec 06 1990 16:42 | 5 | 
|  |     Yeah, and FLORIDA gets an NHL franchise, too ... rather than Hamilton.
    
    Go figure.
    
    Scooter
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| 386.4 | Already 9 Stanley Cups for Ottawa Senators | TROA02::SKLEIN | Nulli Secundus | Thu Dec 06 1990 19:03 | 7 | 
|  | Well from a life long Toronto fan (and proud of it) congrats to Ottawa.
Wonder what division they will be in. Maybe we can have an all Canadian 
division with Quebec, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto and Winnipeg. Probably not,
though.
Susan
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| 386.5 | Some Explaination Please ??? | GVA01::ATKINSON | Just the facts kid | Fri Dec 07 1990 03:32 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 386.6 | Background for non-locals | KAOA01::LAPLANTE |  | Fri Dec 07 1990 07:56 | 14 | 
|  |     
    During the early part of the century and until 1933, Ottawa had a
    National Hockey League team known as the Senators.  They won six
    Stanley cups during their lifetime.
    
    When the NHL announced they were going to expand a group of local
    businessmen began a 'Return the Senators' campaign and succeeded in
    getting one of the franchises for the 92-93 season. They now have to
    build an arena and get a team.  
    
    It's been a very emotional time in the city while this has been going
    on. 
    
    Roger
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| 386.7 | Drafting senators | KAOA01::LAPLANTE |  | Fri Dec 07 1990 07:58 | 16 | 
|  |     
    Now that the team has to be organized I have heard that they are
    considering drafting some of the real (term used loosely) senators
    because:
    
    They are great on defence.......nothing gets by them
    
    They can skate around any issue
    
    They are used to being in overtime
    
    They are used to spending a lot of time on the benches
    
    Any more reasons to draft them?
    
    Roger
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| 386.9 | ? | OLDJON::WATSON | Some like it not | Fri Dec 07 1990 08:12 | 12 | 
|  | >    Any more reasons to draft them?
    
They wouldn't mistake a loon for a hockey puck?
They're proficient at sticking it to others?
They prefer Molson over Canadian Club?
The Canadian Reserves could use a few good men for SA?
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| 386.10 | ha | POLAR::LACAILLE | YFM-350 the real Ultimate Warrior | Fri Dec 07 1990 08:14 | 18 | 
|  | >       <<< Note 386.3 by TRCO01::FINNEY "Keep cool, but do not freeze" >>>
>
>    Yeah, and FLORIDA gets an NHL franchise, too ... rather than Hamilton.
>    
>    Go figure.
>    
>    Scooter
	I heard the reason they did not give Hamilton a franchise was
	that if they did, then Toronto would want one too. :-)
	...and other rumours are that Gretzky will be playing for
	the Senators...
	...Alma Gretzky, his Mom...just the player a civil servant
	town needs.	
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| 386.11 |  | KAOFS::S_BROOK | Originality = Undetected Plagiarism | Fri Dec 07 1990 10:23 | 4 | 
|  |     Oh well, maybe we'll like the GST these Senators will give us ...
    
    
    A GOOD SKATING TEAM !
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| 386.12 | Can I catch the Jays, Roughriders and Senators ? | CHEST::ROWELL | I'm gonna be a Dad !!!! 8^) | Fri Dec 07 1990 10:56 | 8 | 
|  |     I have always favored the Montreal Canadians, but now that a franchise
    has been awarded to my 'home town', I guess they will now get my 
    support (When my dad returns there soon).
    
    So look out for me when they make the Stanley Cup finals !!!
    (It'll probably take me that long to save  ;-)  )
    
    Wayne
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| 386.13 | where is Ontario | POLAR::WILSOND | VAXft Manufacturing - Engineering | Sat Dec 08 1990 18:59 | 8 | 
|  |     well i heard the news yesterday morning in springfield, but the sports
    caster annouced the new franchises with a little twist ...
    
    "the NHL board of governors has annouced the addition of three new
     hockey teams to the league .... Ottawa, Ontario and Tampa"
    
    dave  ... who lives in almonte, where basketball and naismith started
    
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| 386.14 |  | SIOG::EGRI |  | Mon Dec 10 1990 10:51 | 7 | 
|  |     It's about Bl++DY time Ottawa got a franchise. I don't know how 
    supportive the Washington people are but it never made sense to me that
    the US capitol got one before our own did.
    
    YEAH OTTAWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Ted.
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| 386.15 |  | POLAR::RICHARDSON | He who laughs best | Mon Dec 10 1990 17:40 | 10 | 
|  |     Ted,
    
    	Are you happy about it even though the Grand Canal Beltway will
    mean more cutbacks for the CBC?
    
    	I'm glad for the Senators but I wish they'd postpone the 250
    million dollar Grand Canal Beltway which will be funded by closing down
    more CBC Stations.
    
    Glenn
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| 386.16 | possible divisions | TROA02::GOBRIEN | Glenn O'Brien @TRO 2/13 | Mon Dec 10 1990 17:49 | 11 | 
|  |     Possible divisional alignment
    
    Adams:	Boston, Montreal, Buffalo, Hartford, Quebec, Ottawa
    Patrick:	NY Islanders, NY Rangers, New Jersey, Pittsburgh,
    		Philadelphia, Washington
    
    Norris:	Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Minnesota, St.Louis, Tampa
    Smythe:	LA, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, San Jose
    		(already announced for next year)
    
    Glenn
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| 386.17 |  | SIOG::EGRI |  | Thu Dec 13 1990 06:17 | 7 | 
|  |     Glenn,
    
    Getting an NHL team and the Beltway all in one go. What more could the
    nation's capital ask for? Do you think Pat will try out for the
    Senators? :-)
    
    Ted.
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| 386.18 |  | GYPSC::FORST | Rainer Forst @UFC DTN 773-3222 | Thu Dec 13 1990 11:07 | 30 | 
|  |     How do you think the Canadiens will look at the Senateurs, and what
    about the Olympiques (i guess that is their name) from Hull?
    
    I could imagine that the Canadien's reaction is twofold:
    Looking forward towards a great rivalry (maybe like the one with the
    Nordiques), but also feeling a stronger competition for local talent
    and fan support. I have the impression that there are many Canadiens
    supporters in Kanata. How will they react?
    
    Can the Olympiques survive (like Laval, Verdun and Longueuil (sp?) do
    in the Montr�al area)?
    
    Personally, i'm glad to see that Ottawa got one (as i would have been
    for Hamilton). 
    
    One thing scares me a bit, though, about this whole expansion thing,
    and that is the inevitable 'thinning effect' in terms of available
    talent. The NHL will 'suck' more and more on the european talent pool.
    For not too few of those young guys that is no good. Not to speak about
    the 'leftovers' over here. The CSFR hockey league is bought out already
    to a great extend.
    
    In that sense i favour places like Ottawa or Hamilton or Milwaukee
    to get one, since those are regions who supply talent as well, not
    only consume them, like LA, Tampa and similar environments do.
    
    Let alone, of course, my personal preference for Canada (and Qu�bec in
    particular - so i'm p*ssed, Q. did not get another one).
    
    R.
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| 386.19 | 1 out of 24 chance | TROA02::GOBRIEN | Glenn O'Brien @TRO 2/13 | Thu Dec 13 1990 11:30 | 9 | 
|  |     Rainer,
    
    I'm not sure what you know of the NHL drafting procedure, but an Ottawa
    team would have no greater claim on 'local' talent than Los Angeles
    does.  Of course, you like to get local heroes, but it's not like the
    days of old when Montreal automatically got first chance at the
    abundant talent in the province of Quebec.
    
    Glenn
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| 386.20 |  | GYPSC::FORST | Rainer Forst @UFC DTN 773-3222 | Thu Dec 13 1990 12:00 | 16 | 
|  |     -1: You are right, although, if i look at the canadiens team of today,
        the laws of drafting-mathematics seem to be somewhat violated.
    
        I have read and heared - and i find it logical and natural - that
        they draft qu�becois players over others, IF they have the choice
        between compareable talent. The Nordiques are said to have this
        tendency, too (again, consequently in my view). So, there is a
        (secondary) 'local' aspect to the draft system, augmented by the
        'natural' tendency of some players to stay at home/come back home.
    
    	Now, since Ottawa is on the very border-line and has a big 'back-
        yard' in Qu�bec, the above might become true in this case as well.
        
    	That is what i meant by competition for 'local' talent.
    
    R.
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| 386.21 | Local Stars | TALLIS::DARCY |  | Thu Dec 13 1990 17:03 | 9 | 
|  |     Glenn, yet look at the top 3 scorers for Montreal..
    	Stephan Lebeau
    	Denis Savard
    	Stephane Richer
    
    I think all 3 are from PQ...  I like when teams draft local
    talent.  It adds a lot more rivalry to the games.
    
    -george
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| 386.22 |  | GYPSC::FORST | Rainer Forst @UFC DTN 773-3222 | Fri Dec 14 1990 03:42 | 1 | 
|  |     I think half (or more) of the team is
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| 386.23 |  | TRCO01::FINNEY | Keep cool, but do not freeze | Fri Dec 14 1990 08:52 | 1 | 
|  |     and the other half (or less) is
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| 386.24 | clear from the context | GYPSC::FORST | Rainer Forst @UFC DTN 773-3222 | Sat Dec 15 1990 11:55 | 1 | 
|  |     ... half of more of the players are now from P.Q.
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| 386.25 | Can any one get me a cap ? | CHEST::ROWELL | I'm gonna be a Dad !!!! 8^) | Tue Feb 12 1991 11:14 | 10 | 
|  |     
      I was speaking with my Dad last night, and he was 'boasting' that
    he had (probably) the only Ottawa Senators Cap in Europe.
    
      Now, Would any kind soul out there like to trade me an Ottawa
    Senators Cap for something equivalent from here (A Liverpool scarf ??)
    
      Then he won't be able to say that anymore.  ;^)
    
    Wayne
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| 386.26 | I'll see what I can find.... | COGITO::HILL |  | Tue Feb 12 1991 13:14 | 10 | 
|  |     Wayne,
    
    I'll check and see if I can find any Ottawa Senators memorabilia. Since
    the team won't be playing for another year, I don't know what I'll be
    able to find here in the Boston area. 
    
    I like the idea of a trade for comparable Brittish/European soccer
    stuff. I'll let you know what I can find.
    
    Tom
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| 386.27 |  | KAOFS::S_BROOK | Ask Not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for ME! | Wed Feb 13 1991 11:37 | 5 | 
|  |     Actually the Senators are in the middle of a big hullabaloo regarding
    their memorabilia ... Lots and lots of licensing problems, so a lot
    seems to have disappeared fromthe store shelves.
    
    Stuart
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| 386.28 | It's a fair trade... | KAOM25::RUSHTON | Did you hug a Brussel sprout today? | Wed Feb 13 1991 17:57 | 7 | 
|  |       <<Now, Would any kind soul out there like to trade me an Ottawa
      <<Senators Cap for something equivalent from here (A Liverpool scarf ??)
    
      How's about an All-Ireland Hurling jersey from the Cork team for
      TWO Ottawa Senators' caps??
      Pat
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| 386.29 | Can we haggle on this ? | CRATE::ROWELL | I'm gonna be a Dad !!!! 8^) | Fri Feb 15 1991 08:46 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Ah, no. For the All-Ireland Hurling jersey, I would want Ben Johnson's
    track vest from his come back race.  ;-)
    
    I would accept, however, just ONE cap, as long as it was worn by the 
    Ottawa Senators All-Time leading goal scorer.
    
    Wayne.
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| 386.30 | Ottawa in trouble... | VAOU02::BOTMAN | Pieter Botman - Vancouver SWS | Mon Jun 24 1991 11:41 | 11 | 
|  |     Well, well...
    
    One of today's top sports stories today was the "investigation" of the
    finances of the new Ottawa and Tampa Bay franchises.  This to be done
    by an owners committee of the NHL.  Seems the Ottawa boys went into
    debt just for the franchise payment, and have not built their new
    arena.  Hope all you Senator fans have invested in paraphernalia,
    because you can sell them as curiosity pieces, once the franchise is
    pronounced DEAD!!!
    
    Pieter
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| 386.31 | "You can't beat 'em on the ice, if you can't beat 'em in the boardroom" | FSCORE::PATTERSON | Potato chips and C�tes du Rh�ne | Fri Sep 22 1995 07:39 | 8 | 
|  |     I heard on the news this morning that Brian Berard (sp?) will NEVER
    play for the Senators -- same as we heard from Yashin.
    
    Why don't these guys want to play for the Senators?
    	- Is it the team name?
    	- Is it the team logo?
    	- Is the ugly arena they'll have to play in?
    	- Is the Senators management?
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| 386.32 | And Sexton is a fool too! | KAOFS::LOCKYER |  | Fri Sep 22 1995 12:30 | 5 | 
|  |     I'm not sure your question is serious but I'll answer it anyway -
    
    Ottawa is too small!  The players can't make enough money for public
    appearance, endorsements, etc.  Ottawa shouldn't have an NHL team and
    it probably won't in a few short years...
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| 386.33 | not another Skydome!?! | FSCORE::PATTERSON | Potato chips and C�tes du Rh�ne | Fri Sep 22 1995 12:55 | 10 | 
|  |     ... but Daigle LOVES it here!
    
    
    If the Senators leave, who gets stuck with paying for that eyesore
    beside the 417...
    	- Kanata taxpayers?
    	- Ottawa-Carleton taxpayers?
    	- Ontario taxpayers?
    	- all of the above?
    	- Rod & friends?
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| 386.34 | I'm taking my arena and I'm going home... | OTOOA::MHOGAN |  | Tue Sep 26 1995 12:50 | 5 | 
|  |     
    I'm pretty sure that the Senators own the Palladium, so if they
    leave, they will have to take their arena with them :)
    
    Mike
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