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    You're right, this is a lot of driving.  Niagara Falls is 2 hours from
    Toronto, which is 6 hours from Montreal, which is 4 to 8 hours from
    Maine, depending upon where you are.  I've driven this many times....
    I prefer going through the States (mountains etc.).
    
    As far as going to Niagara Falls...there's a reason that nobody has
    mentioned it here...it's very tacky.  I would go for a day trip only,
    and then only during the spring (when all the flowers are in bloom).
    The Niagara area is also very nice to visit, especially Niagara-on-
    the-Lake.  But for a longer trip....it's like John McEnroe...some
    people love him, some people, well.....
    
    
    Jim.

    There are a lot of horror museums in Niagara Falls. Never could
    figure that one out. I would recommend you spend no more than 2
    hours there.

    Admittedly downtown Niagara Falls is the worst of all tourist traps
    and tacky to the extreme.  However, it is possible to visit Niagara
    Falls and avoid all of this.  The parkland along the river is beautiful
    and the Falls themselves quite a site (I've been there dozens of
    times).  Seeing them lit at night is also worth seeing.
    
    Driving from Niagara Fall to Niagara-on-the-Lake is also recommended.
    Take in the Shaw Festival (live theater) if you can (rush seats
    go on sale at 10 am each morning ... at least on weekdays).  Stop
    in to see Brock's Monument at Queenston Heights.  So spending a
    whole day in Niagara Falls and surrounding area is not as bad as
    the previous replies have indicated.
    
    Martin
    

    

    Will the Grand Canal be linked to the Welland Canal in the near
    future?

    >>Will the Grand Canal be linked to the Welland Canal in the near
    >>    future?
    
	As soon as we get a Grand Compiler built, and get the *%^%$ thing
    compiled, we'll work up a linker.
    
    The ol' sw lamp burning late at 505 these nights in the Grand Canal
    Development Group ...
    
    Hey, Ottawawa ! How's the Grand Assembler coming ?
    
    Scooter

    As was mentioned;
    
    - Niagara-on-the-lake is a must 
    - a drive along the parkway is also very nice
    - take a ride on the maid-of-the-mist (boat that goes very near
    to the falls)
    - can go under the falls, actually you pop out of a cave (kinda of
    neat)
    - check out the whirl pools further down the gorge
    - gotta stay in one of the hotels with sunken bathtubs, heart shaped
    beds and mirrors on the ceiling :-)
    - go up the sky line tower
    - go the US side to really appreciate the Canadian side (like night
    and day in regards to the cleanliness of the cities)
    - walk across the Peace bridge and scare the %#$* out of yourself
    - go the the Falls museum (has some containers in which some crazys
    went over the falls in)
    - why not tride riding the falls yourself just to say you did :-)
    
    Have a good time at the Falls and be a tourist.
    Alan (a Brock Grad, St. Catharines - 15 minutes from the falls)
    
     

    re .4

    	The Welland Canal will be used for collector lanes once the Grand
    Canal is completed. So in a sense they will be linked however in a
    parallel fashion.
    	One major concern is that the on and off ramps will be prone to 
    grid-lock in rush hour.
    
    Glenn

Glenn is pulling your barge pole fellas.  The Grand Canal is *NOT*
linked to the Welland Canal.  It was deemed to be a source of congestion
if this were done, so the Grand Canal was built to pass *UNDER* the
Welland Canal.  Typically, there isn't sufficient headroom so that most
tankers must have the upper decks removed in order to pass under the Welland
Canal.  This massive project devastated the surrounding area to the extent
that Thorold had to be moved to Grimsby - Brock University had to be 
relocated to north of Toronto, at Canada's Wonderland.

Re: .6

Alan, did you know either Paula or Rick Bourner at Brock?


Pat

    I've heard a rumour that RCMP have bought the old DEW line system and
    will use the radars for speed enforcement on the GC.
    
    Scooter

    What is this Niagara-at-the-Falls (or whatever) that is mentioned in
    previous notes?  Also, any names of these places to stay with the
    sunken tubs, etc?  If we only stay overnight at the Falls, where
    else should we go in Canada.  Is Toronto or Montreal too hot in the
    summer for a stay?  I think a few days in either would be alright,
    but we want more country and beautiful scenery.  Any other suggestions?
    Thanks!
    

    Pat,
    
    Don't know either one.
    
    Alan
    (UWO '84, Brock '86)

    Niagara-on-the-Lake is where the Niagara river meets Lake Ontario.
    The other end, at Lake Erie, is Buffalo and Fort Erie.  
    
    NOTL is really quaint, lots of flowers, golf courses, etc.
    
    I would not recommend actually STAYING at one of the Niagara falls
    hotels with the vibrating beds etc.
    
    Visit Quebec City if you are going to Montreal...this is a definite
    must.

    In some other notes on Canada during the summer months, people have
    said that it is very hot and humid then.  Should we consider Nova 
    Scotia or Niagara Falls and skip Toronto and/or Montreal during July?
    

    Niagara's only about 1� hours from Toronto and gets the same sort
    of weather.  I'm not sure about the atlantic provinces.

    .0 & .10 
        
    
    Canada is Fab , The falls are breath taking , theres lots to do
    , atleast a day is needed...It was 110% when I visited 2 years back
    in the first 2 weeks July , but it was great , Go on the maid of
    the mist if you can , it will cool you down.   
    
    
    Canadas Wonderland is also a very nice place to be....lots to do
    and the Canadian whether manages to make anything fab compared to
    cold old England...(she says as it is 75 outside and still not too
    warm - but the hottest day yet!) 
                                   
                                   
    I hope to be back there in a bout 3 or 4 weeks time , if all goes
    well...
    
    
    Tracie.
    

    I know it is an old note but...
    
    Any reccomendations on places to stay at Niagra Falls?
    
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Joe

Would the moderators please correct the spelling in the title to
"Niagara Falls."

Thanks/john

    In keeping with Charlie Farquaharson's fine tome, "Histry of Canada",
    the misspelt title has been changed to the proper Parry Sound spelling.
    
    The moderator dude.
    

    here here.

    Yes, this is an old note... but...
    any hotel recommendations? and restaurants ?
    the best way to reach Niagara from Rochester, NY?
    Thanks people of Canada!
    Regina 
    Rio de Janeiro

    Our favorite restaurant in the area is on the US side. The Clarkson
    House is located in Lewiston NY (just north of Niagara Falls N.Y., along 
    the river). I think the biggest part of the charm of the place is that
    it has not changed one bit since I was a wee one (except the prices).
    It's a steak house in the style that was popular 30 odd years ago. The
    only place I've ever been where customers actually ordered "real"
    cocktails (martinis, manhattans, rob roys) when the waitress asks "Do
    you wan't anything from the bar before dinner?" 
    
    We also often go to the Sushia Gardens on Canadian side. It's a teppan
    style Japanese restaurant that is suprisingly good considering that it
    is located in Maple Leaf Village (sort of an amusement park and tacky
    shopping mall all in one, be sure to visit the Elvis Museam there if
    you go.
    

	Anybody know if the Falls are frozen this time of the year? I've seen
	pictures of them frozen, but I'm not sure if it's too early in
	the winter...  


	Thanks
	/ken

    Too early ... If they are  going to significantly freeze, it will
    be end of January, early Feb.

    It depends if they close the grand Canal for skating or not.....

    The grand Canal, said he with an icy glare ... you're skating on
    thin ice here ... 

	re: last few

	Thanks for the info... We stopped by on the way past Buffalo... The
	falls weren't frozen, but everything else was due to the mist...

	/ken

    
    
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Note 640.0                   Niagara Falls in Winter                  No replies
AIDEV::YLEE                                          10 lines  18-DEC-1992 12:05
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	Has anyone been to Niagara Falls in winter ? My family are
	thinking of visiting Niagara Falls during Christmas or New
	Year. We have been to Niagara Falls a couple of times in
	summer. Is it really beautiful ? If we are going, we will
	probably take Mass Pike. How are the road conditions in winter ?
	
	Any recommentations will be appreciated.

	
    

    The falls are really beautiful in Winter.