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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

245.0. "MONTREAL BOUND/ WORK VISA INFO" by CLSTR1::BRADLEY () Wed Nov 29 1989 12:52

    Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there would have any information
    regarding work visa's.  I presently live in MA but will be moving
    to the wonderful and "great white north" probably in mid 1990 or
    sooner if I could just get a job.  I'm leaving Digital and taking
    the "voluntary separation package".  My background is administrative
    secretarial but have done many other jobs and one I enjoy most is
    waitressing (I enjoy people a great deal).  The deal with immigration
    is this; you must have a job offer that no other Canadian citizen
    can fill (oh, great!!).  Plus they (employer) must go to the gov't and
    tell them this and then maybe if lucky I will get an offer.  I have a
    sponcer who is my fiance and have wedding plans for May.   
    Does anyone have any advise or recommendations that could possible
    help me out in this situation?  I have wonderful references and letters
    of recommendation from people I have worked with here in Digital
    and from a previous job.
    
    There is yet another conflict.  I will be moving to Montreal and
    my French is a little weak.  I am taking classes and should be "O.K."
    in a year or so.  
                       HELP!!
    Bonjour...Lis   
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245.1Contact Canadian ImmigrationKAOA01::LAPLANTELes Montagnards Cameron d'OttawaThu Nov 30 1989 07:5616
    
    My understanding is that if you are sponsored, ie you will be a
    permanent resident of the country after you are married, that you
    get Landed Immigrant status immediately (or at least easily)
    
    A Landed Immigrant can apply for any job in the country without
    special visas of any kind.
    
    Check with Canadian immigration to be sure. I think there is a
    consulate in Boston.
    
    You might find it hard to get a waitressing job in Montreal without
    French, but it shouldn't be too hard to find clerical/secretarial
    work.
    
    Roger
245.2get married now!SALEM::MOLLOYWed Dec 06 1989 12:1410
    considering the time frame your are dealing with 'you are in a bind',
    the canadian goverment works at about the same speed if not slower
    than the u.s., i've seen them both.  if you really want to go soon,
    try this a) go to a local justice of the peace, get married, tell
    nobody(i have a friend who is a jp in nh).  b)enter canada as husband
    and wife (you get the status on the spot i believe) c) get social
    insurance number etc.  d) get a job, have fun  e) get married in may 
    'big wedding' etc..
    
    nobody knows the difference and it's legal!
245.3Personal experienceCGOO01::LMILLERNow try it once more ......Wed Dec 06 1989 19:0115
        I don't believe that is true.  I am a US married to Canadian.  Even
    though I was married, we still had to apply outside the country
    for Landed Immigrant status.  True you get your "yellow paper" at
    port of entry but there is tonnes of paperwork (plus I had to have
    a physical as well.  The best part (everytime my husband gets out
    of hand!) is that your sponsor/husband has to promise to keep you
    off welfare for 10 years else he/she (not you) get thrown in gaol.
    
    It is true it is easier to get in when legally wed first.
    
    I always forget my "yellow paper" and everytime I come into immigration
    I have to be checked  on the computer.  
    
    
245.4RELOCATION TO CANADA FROM U.S.OASS::DSAMUELSTue Dec 26 1989 17:0113
    If you get information on work visas will you inform me?  I am trying
    to relocate to Canada by the end of 1990 also.  I have being in contact
    with several people in Kanata and Toronto.  I understand I need a job
    offer also; however, it's a catch 22.  In order to get a job in Canada,
    I was informed that Digital needs a Landing Immigration Visa.  And, in
    order to get the Landing Immigration Visa, I need a job offer.  I was
    also informed that relocation funds aren't available in Canada. 
    However, if a Canadian were to relocate to the U.S. they have no
    problem.  Where's the equity?
    
    Thanks for whatever light you can shed on this issue!
    
    
245.5TRCU11::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freezeWed Dec 27 1989 10:1614
    re: relocation funds.
    
    If you look through the JOBS notesfile, you will find that only around
    30% of the jobs in the U.S. offer relocation allowance. It is there-
    fore not "no problem" when relocating from Canada to the U.S.
    
    Whether or not relocation funds are available is normally a function of
    how easy it is to fill the position - the harder it is to get a
    qualified peson, the more likely it is that relocation will be offered.
    
    It is generally not too difficult for Digital Canada to fill positions.
    
    Scooter
           
245.6Others have done it!TRCA01::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Thu Dec 28 1989 09:4517
    Have you tried talking to your Personnel Dept?  That's what they
    are there for - to help you with your job, even if that means
    relocating.
    
    Now, they probably won't help with the working papers and all that
    stuff, but there are ways to get that done too.  There are lots
    of Americans working for DEC Canada (some transfered from DEC US,
    some didn't join DEC until they got here).  
    
    It can't be THAT hard.
    
    But (as Scooter said in -.1) DEC Canada hasn't been having a lot
    of problem filling their positions locally.
    
    Good Luck!
    
    Dave
245.7<Keeping cool in spite of the odds>OASS::DSAMUELSTue Jan 16 1990 13:5615
    Yes, I have been in contact with Personnel here.  However, I get the
    same "song and dance"... the interested (DEC) Canadian party need to
    make me a job offer and once that has been established, U.S. DEC can
    help with the paperwork.
    
    I agree with you that DEC Canada conceivably doesn't have problems
    filling their positions locally; not does the U.S.!  I tend to believe
    that jobs are posted internationally here to give Canadians the
    oppoortunity to work in the U.S. if they so desire.
    
    You mentioned that there are several Americans that have relocated to
    Canada?  Do you have any direct contacts?  If so, I'd certainly
    appreciate any input you may have.
    
    Thanx a million!!