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Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
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172.0. "Montreal information" by VICKI::BROOKS (The spirit of the civilized rogue) Tue Apr 25 1989 23:15

    My wife and I are planning a trip to Montreal the weekend of
    May 12, 13, 14. Can some of the locals provide information on:
    
    - Romantic, gourmet dining in Montreal
    
    - Places to be sure to visit given our short stay
    
    - Good places to shop

    - We are staying at the Bonaventure Hilton is this:
    	- A nice place
    	- close to the center of activity
    	- within walking distance to anything/everything answered above
    	- in a good section of town (we're from Boston where there are
          good and bad sections of town)
    
    Any suggestions of things to do places to see places to eat or anything
    you think may be of interest please pass them on. This is our first
    real trip without the kids so we're looking for maximum quality
    time.
    
    Thanx,
    
    Dick Brooks
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172.1BOSHOG::HAUENSTEINUse WALDRF::HAUENSTEIN for mailWed Apr 26 1989 13:2624
    I'm not a native, but I've spent a bit of time there, so . . .
    
    The Bonaventure (unless there is more than one) is right in the
    center of the city, and therefore convenient.  It sits on the top
    of a shopping center (shopping being the first 4 or 5 floors, the
    hotel being the top ? floors).  Nice place.

    Things I would recommend.  Dining, I've eaten at Le Cave (is that
    the correct name) and really enjoyed it.  I don't know if they're
    running yet, but on top of Mount Royal, you can take a horse drawn
    carriage ride, and that's lots of fun.  Even if you don't do that,
    DO go up to the mountain, as the city views are spectacular.  The
    old Olympic center is to the West, and a tour can be very
    enjoyable.  At the site of the old worlds fair, there is a pretty
    good amusement park, but in May would it be open?  Definitely get
    to the Old City, and wander around.  There's some great restaurants
    there, but I can't recall any names.  The Cathedrals in Montreal
    are magnificent, again, I've forgotten names, but one in the old
    city, and one near your hotel are ones I recall (Notre Dame seems
    to be a likely name).

    Enough rambling, I think I've talked myself into going!!

    Lee
172.2and later...TRCO01::OBRIENGlenn O'Brien @TRC 18/6Wed Apr 26 1989 18:003
    I liked Les Deux Parrots in the old downtown.  
    
    Glenn
172.3La Fils du Roi?KAOA12::SMELLIEThu Apr 27 1989 10:0316
    The best restaurant I ever went to in Montreal was right in the
    heart of the Old City, but unfortunately I don't know the address,
    and am not 100% sure of the name. I think it was La Fils du Roi
    or La Fille du Roi. Had something to do with a king. Anyway, the
    food and the service were fit for royalty. The menu, as I recall,
    was a terrific mix of French Canadian and European cuisine. Prices
    were moderate to expensive, but well worth it. The building is one
    of those original thick stone walled buildings that is a few hundred
    years old, and the wait staff wore period costume.
    
    All in all, it was a very romantic restaurant. We first went there
    with a gang of Deccies who were in Montreal on course, but I enjoyed
    it so much, that I made a special trip about a year later so I could
    take my girl friend. Definitely recommended, if you can find it.
    
    Tom
172.4Have fun, and good eatingMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowThu Apr 27 1989 13:12183
   
    Following is a list of restaurants, the ones I have tried have a
    tab for two with wine and an appreciation (tr�s bon= very good,
    bon= good and moyen= fair) The phone numbers are to the best of
    my knowledge accruate as are the adresses.  If you find the prices
    steep, don't forget that they are for dinner and the restaurants
    are quite good (not holes).  It is wise to reserve, and ask for
    a good table, if you are not satisfied where they seat you, tell
    them, you will enjoy it more.
    
    Re -.1, Les Filles du Roy  (good typical french canadian food) 
    	    415 Bonsecours
    	    849-3535
    
    As for tourism, don't ask a local, (me) local people don't usually
    visit their own attractions, but still go to the olympic park and
    take the cable car up to the top (500') you will get a fantastic
    view of the city.  For shopping walk to St-Catherine from where
    your hotel is, and there are stores all over the place.
                                                                  
    
    Jean
    
    
     
    
    
    Le P'tit Port			Poissons
1813 St-Catherine ouest		
932-6556			Tr�s bonne critique

Chez Mai Lan			Vietnamien
1708 Laurier est
598-1292

Oggi				Italien
108 Laurier est
272-9122			Tr�s bon 	($80/2)

Calao				Africain
4865 St-Laurent
844-5212			Moyen		($60/2)

La Bellevue sur le Boulevard
5358 boul L�vesque
St-Vincent de Paul
661-4985

Millaire			Fran�aise
911 Jean Talon est
271-6103			Tr�s bonne critique
(table d'h�te $18.50)

Les Mauvais Gar�ons		
4466 Marquette
524-7989

La P�gasse	
1831 Gilford
521-0037			Bon		($60/2)

Le Boulevard
5350 boul. L�vesque
St-Vincent de Paul
661-4985			

Domino				Fran�aise
330 Mt-Royal est
845-6557			Tr�s bon	($80/2)
(mardi au dimanche)

La Renaudi�re			Fran�aise
94 boul. St-Rose
Laval	
622-7963

La M�re Michel
1209 Guy
934-0473			

La Fourchette en Folie		Fran�aise
1545 Jarry est
729-4727			Tr�s bon	($70/2)
(ferm� dimanche et lundi)

Via Veneto			Italien
5486 St-Laurent
273-4097			

Chateau Lisbonne		Portugais
201 Rachel est
287-1673

La Diva				Italien
1273 Ren� L�vesque ouest 
     (Dorchester)
523-3470			Tr�s bon	($60/2)

Le tricolore
2065 Bishop
843-7745					
(prix unique $17.00)

Le Clos
1227 de La Montagne
874-7671
($50/2)

La Capricciosa			Italien
5202 D�carie
487-1234
($33/2)

L'Impromptu D'Outremont		Fran�aise
1265 Bernard ouest
270-2411			Excellent	($125/2 menu gastronomique)

Restaurant da Marcello		Italien
825 Laurier est
276-1580
($50/2, table d'h�te $17.00)

L'Entrepont			Fran�aise
4622 H�tel de ville
845-1369			Tr�s bon	($60/2)

Chez Nassos			poissons
5115 St-Laurent
276-2719			bon		($60/2)

L'Exotic
3788 Laval (pr�s Roy)
843-4741

Le Jardin St-Denis
2090 De La Montagne
843-6247

La Saumoni�re
1230 Mackay
933-0246

La Rabastali�re
125 ouest Rabastali�re
St-Bruno

L'Avventura			Italien
99 Laurier ouest
271-3095			tr�s bon	($70/2)

Le Bistroquet � Maxime
357 St-Charles
Longueil
677-8743	

Zigane
5282 St-Laurent
271-6172

Paris Express			cuisine sous vide
3801 St-Denis
844-6682
(midi $7-9, soir pas cher)

Les Rites Berb�res		cous-cous (Arabe)
4697 De Bullion
844-7863			Tr�s bonne critique

La Raclette
1059 Gilford
524-8118
(apportez votre vin)

Da Salvatore			Italien
6419 Gouin ouest
745-3611

Pizza Mella			pizza
107 Prince Arthur est
849-4680					($30/2)


172.5You almost forgot...TRCA03::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Fri Apr 28 1989 14:547
    re .4...
    
    I read your list Jean, and I noticed you missed McDonalds and St.
    Hubert's!  And you thought you had a complete list!		;-)
    
    
    Dave
172.6My Hit LlistGERBIL::BOHLIGFri Apr 28 1989 17:2912
    
    Favorite place to stay: Auberge De La Montagne (weekend specials)
    
    Favorite restaurants: Les Halles
        (expensive)       La Maree (fine French seafood in Old Montreal)
                        
    Favorite restaurants: Bar B Barn (Ribs)
        (cheap)           Greek BYOB's near Rue St. Denis                 
                    
    Favorite dance club: Metropolis

    Favorite event: Jazz Festival             
172.7You deserve a break ($) todayMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowFri Apr 28 1989 23:4218
    Re -.2,  remember they were asking for a ROMANTIC restaurant, and
    the only ROMANTIC McDonald's that I know of is in Toronto in front
    of the training center, where else can you grease your insides while
    listening to a piano concerto by Burger (f)Ries?
    
    Jean
    
    PS there is also Les Mignardises
                     2037 St-Denis
    		     842-1151
    
    	EX-TRE-ME-LY EX-PEN-SI-VE, but the current best according to
    	reviews.
    
    		     Les Halles		Francaise
    		     1450 Crescent
    		     844-2328		Tres bon	($120+/2)  
    
172.8It was a nice place, but I don't remember the nameTRCA03::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Mon May 01 1989 10:0914
    re: .1
    
    Yes, McDonald's...Romance...they go hand in hand!	:^)
    
    Actually, I did find a nice restaurant in Old Montreal a couple
    of months ago.  I don't remember the name of the restaurant, but
    it was, as I said, in Old Montreal, about 3 doors down the street
    from The Keg (same side of the street, to the right, on the corner).
    
    Maybe somebody from the Montreal office can help fill in some of
    the gaps!
    
    
    Dave
172.9In Old MontrealHAMSTR::LITMANMon May 01 1989 10:472
    How about:
    Auberge de la rue St Gabriel?
172.10Thanks to all who responded.VICKI::BROOKSThe spirit of the civilized rogueWed May 03 1989 22:489
    Thanks to all who have responded to my request for advice. No doubt
    we will have great fun in Montreal thanks to all of your sound advice.
    
    Dick Brooks.
    
    PS: Is there anything a visitor should do when arriving in Montreal
    that is traditional. In Ireland new visitors are supposed to kiss
    the blarney stone.
 Is there anything like this for Montreal? 
172.11The City of Traditions....KAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestThu May 04 1989 12:079
	First time visitor's to Montr�al must kiss the kidney stone of
     mayor Jean Dor�. This tradition is rather young however as it recently
     took the place of having to kiss the heart of Brother Andr�.

	The other tradition is going to the Forum and pledging allegiance to
     the Montr�al Canadiens while laying prostrate in the middle of 
     St. Cathrines Street......

	Glenn 8^)
172.12Sit back and enjoy your stayMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowThu May 04 1989 12:327
    Just have a beer (Molson's Brador or Labatt's Classic), if you don't
    like beer, sit outside a caf� and have a KIR.
    
    Jean
    
    Re -.1 did you have your "prostrate" operation yet?
    
172.13Montr�al is a fun 'tune'KAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestThu May 04 1989 14:2711
    re -.1
    
    	That's the 'flat' organ isn't it? Maybe that's why I feel so
    run down.... Anyways, I didn't think organs were supposed to be
    'flat' or 'sharp' because if they are, they get 'pitched'. Maybe
    we should 'harp' on this 'key' issue.
    
    
    On that 'note'.....
    
    Glenn 8-)
172.14don't forget lafleurs cost $2.00FSCORE::LATTUCAMoshi, MoshiTue May 09 1989 20:263
    
    talking about restaurants in montr�al, don't forget Lafleurs, best
    hot dogs and french fries. They use still use real potatoes.
172.15never mind the french restuarantsFSCORE::RODERMONDWed May 10 1989 12:3411
You can eat french-style cooking even in Maynard, but you can't get ribs 
as good as the ones the Bar B Barn has anywhere else in the world.  Even 
Tony Roma's in Tokyo wasn't as good as this.  And you can swill it down with
Brador while you are it it.  There is a Bar B Barn right dowm town.

make sure you check out St. Hubert's BBQ chicken.  It's not bad at all, it's
cheap, and the skin is as good as that of any "Peking Duck" you may care to eat
in Chinatown.  Have the #4 (half chicken), and put lots of ketchup into the BBQ
sauce. 


172.16"blood" on everything???KAOFS::N_BAXTERwe'll see who rusts first...Thu May 11 1989 13:074
    Fred:
    
      I agree on your ideas, except for "your" bad habit.....forget
    the ketchup!!!  Try it virgin, and always order extra.
172.17Give it a tryMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowTue May 16 1989 11:254
    The "Montr�al" way to eat french fries is with VINEGAR!!
    
    Jean
    
172.18<cheese please>BEST1::ATKINSONWine is fine but liquor&#039;s quickerTue May 16 1989 11:592
    The montreal way of eating french fries is with cheese curds and
    gravy, (Poitine). Ah, but I like it too.
172.19CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouTue May 16 1989 14:077
    Actually, the proper way to have french fries is with vinegar AND
    gravy.  We always had it that way at my grandfather's restaurant
    in Ontario.  Most Americans I know don't understand even the gravy part
    of that.
    
    B.
    
172.20Chips = French friesKAOM25::RUSHTONInspired lunacyTue May 16 1989 15:014
Chips and mayonnaise?!  Great stuff!  Especially with hamburgers and
peanut butter.

Pat
172.21TASTE GREAT ... BUT NOT LESS FILLINGBEST1::ATKINSONWine is fine but liquor&#039;s quickerWed May 17 1989 09:092
    Try mustard with your chips, you'll never eat them any other way.
    SERIOUSLY!!!
172.22Where is the...?BTOVT::BOATENG_KRelativity &amp; ResilienceWed May 17 1989 17:036
     
    And don't forget ketchup on the morning toast.
    A lil' bit of sodium chloride in the herb tea.
    If you liked the rest you'll luv  the best...!
    
    
172.23What a great place Montreal is....VICKI::BROOKSThe spirit of the civilized rogueMon May 22 1989 10:4041
    Well I'm back in New Hampshire now wishing I could have stayed longer
    in Montreal. By far one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited.
    My wife and I spent most of our time in Old Montreal around Place
    Jacques Cartier. We ate our anniversary dinner at St. Amables. I
    had the phesant and she had the grilled lobster. Both meals were
    outstanding. We then proceeded to take the horse/buggy ride through
    Old Montreal. This was very impressive and something we'll never
    forget. After that we hailed one the the 4 million taxis in Montreal
    and had him take us to Mont Royal and another lookout spot which
    he recommended. What a view, absolutely breaktaking. I don't know
    the name of the second lookout but it was amongst some REALLY expensive
    homes and had a cement wall with pointers made of brass inserted
    in the top of the wall. Each one of which was pointing at a different
    point of interest. All you had to do was look down the pointer to
    view the object which it highlited.
    We spent Saturday touring the Olympic village, took the cable car
    to the observation deck on the inclined tower and feverishly worked
    on my wife to attend the EXPOS game, which she wouldn't even consider.
    
    Things we found most impressive:
    
    	- Friendliness of the people.
    
    	- Cleanliness and comfort of the metro
    
    	- The view from Mont Royal
    
    Things we found to be unimpressive:
    
    	- Paying $15.00 for two drinks at the lounge in the hotel.
    

    
    I want to thank all who contributed to making our stay in your country
    memorable and for providing all of the good ideas.
    
    In parting I'd like to say, as a Boston Bruins fan, 
    
    	I love Montreal, it's the Canadiens I hate. Even if they are
        the worlds greatest hockey team.   ;^)
    
172.24COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon May 14 1990 15:0617
Restaurant recommendation:

	Restaurant la Clarisse
	5135 Rue du Parc

An elegant but not overly expensive restaurant.  We spent C$108 including
tip for Table d'H�te (soup, appetizer, main course, and cheese) plus one
of the more expensive wines (C$27) on their wine list plus dessert.  (And
they brought us digestifs.)

I had caribou, Pam had veal.

In a neighborhood with mostly Greek and other inexpensive restaurants,
this nice place won't be around long unless more people go -- for most
of the evening we had the entire restaurant's staff to ourselves.

/john
172.25Wow! Some tough guy, eh?!KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyMon May 14 1990 17:0316
<<I had caribou, Pam had veal.

John, you mean only your wife ate?!








Caribou - half and half of whiskey and red wine (also known as a Purple
          Jaysus)


Pat
172.26GVA01::ATKINSONJust the facts kidTue May 15 1990 06:042
    Caribou is very french Canadian. I remeber my relatives drinking this
    stuff and dancing up a storm every Christmas.
172.27A word of cautionPOLAR::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestTue May 15 1990 10:147
    	Drinking Caribou can be dangerous, especially in a herd. One must
    be careful when gulping down the antler portion, unless of course it's
    pur�ed. I've never heard of anyone drinking a whole Caribou before
    though. One would have to be very thirsty to complete such an
    undertaking.
    	I enjoy drinking Alaskan Malamute simply because I don't drink
    heavily like Caribou drinkers do.
172.28Served with little umbrellas too...KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyTue May 15 1990 12:292
Drinking Creamed Lemming is strictly for poofters, it's hardly ever
available in bars nowadays.
172.29my recepieMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowTue May 15 1990 13:4413
    Here is a recette for caribou:
    
    40oz of (cheap) Canadian red wine (St-Georges)
    10oz of 40% alchool (comes in a bottle with a picture of a caribou
                         thus the name of the drink)
    a 7oz bottle of 7up
    
    mix it all and let sit in the fridge for a week.
    
    a few drinks and your toes really get warm.
    
    Jean
    
172.30A Canadian whine...KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyTue May 15 1990 15:378
    <<40oz of (cheap) Canadian red wine (St-Georges)
	       ^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^     ^^^^

The adjectives 'cheap' and 'Canadian' are redundant in referring to
Canadian wine.  Actually, 'Canadian wine' is an oxymoron.

Pat	    

172.31POLAR::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestTue May 15 1990 16:171
    Is an 'oxymoron' a big fat moron?
172.32A cup of oxymoron, please.KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyTue May 15 1990 17:081
No, it's a stupid cube of dessicated beef extract.
172.33NO mistake on MY partMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowTue May 15 1990 17:084
    WWT, I DID put cheap in parenthesis!
    
    Jean
    
172.34The REAL caribouMQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowThu May 17 1990 13:0618
    
After checking my (actually my wife's) book
    
    Here is a recette for caribou:
    
    40oz of (cheap) Canadian PORT (St-Georges)
    10oz of 40% alchool
    a 7oz bottle of 7up
    
    mix it all and let sit in the fridge for a week.
    
    You could also drink the wole lot separately and let it mix itself in
    your stommach, but make sure you put on your thermal socks because your
    toes may get chilly after sitting in the fridge for a week.
    
    Jean