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    I am not up to date on kids attractions in Montreal... but if you
are coming up from the south, you could stop at a couple of out-of-town
attractions.  Hemingford has a great Safari park, the type you drive 
your car through amongst the animals.  

    And Granby has the Granby Zoo which as about as good a KIDS zoo as
you are going to get.  Compact (not too far to walk around), lots of
washrooms/food and drink, "petting" and feeding allowed in certain
areas, and an area dedicated to carnival type rides, etc etc.  And 
animals too... lots of 'em.

    These places about 45 minutes from Montreal.

    Maybe an hour and a half to the east, is Upper Canada Village.  
Terrific recreation of a village of 100 years ago, including 3 actual
operating mills.  "Actors" dressed for the part explain what is going
on, it makes a great full day visit.  If you sit down in the schoolhouse
be prepared to be be put firmly in your place by the school marm. ;-)

For entertainment, I'd recommend seeing the exhibition of Leonardo da
Vinci's inventions and designs, which includes his drawings, and models
which have been made from his drawings, which is on at the Museum of 
Fine Arts on Sherbrooke Street.  It's quite a popular show so check the 
availability of tickets before you head over.

The Expos will be playing St. Louis at the Olympic Stadium on Sept 7,8,9.
The stadium was the site of the '76 summer olympics and is a remarkable,
big place -- the locals call it 'the Big O' because of its shape.

For pleasant sight-seeing and shopping and eating, I recommend a walking
tour of 'Old Montreal', which you can find described in one of those pocket 
guide books at a bookstore before you leave, or at most newstands in Montreal.

You can get to any of these places by the subway, which Montrealers call
'the Metro'.  Driving in Montreal is best avoided, if possible.  Get yourself
a good city map if you're going to attempt it -- AND AVOID THE WEEKDAY RUSH 
HOURS -- there can be long and nasty traffic jams, especially along the 
access routes to 'the island'.

Dave

   Upper Canada Village is west of Montreal... (not east as I said). 

    
    Thanks to Richard and Dave ....going to take in all you suggested
    
    Appreciate your response
    
    Canuck...almost enroute and counting

    along the same lines, I and a couple of other folks (22-26 age bracket)
    will be heading to Montreal on Dec 24.  Are there any other suggestions
    for things to do within the city?
    
    ex : unique museums, interesting bar/restaurants, good clubs for
    music/comedy/story telling, favorite bands, ... anything out of the
    ordinary or special
    
    thanks
    		boz

    
    I am in a band that will be touring and Montreal is one of our 
    destinations. Can anyone tell me of the average cost (Canadian or 
    American money) of a hotel in or outside of Montreal?

    This info is greatly appreciated! If you're in the Montreal area
    I'll put you on the guest list as a thank-you!
    
    Peter Cook 

    HEllo Everybody,
    
    This is probably the wrong place, I'm sure. But could anyone tell
    me about trades made by either the Expos or Les Canadiens or the
    existence of any appropriate notes files.
    
    I was watching the Expos play the Reds on ESPN here in Dublin the
    other day and noticed a lot of new faces and didn't see people like
    Mitch Webster, Bob McClure etc.. etc..
    
    Thanks.
    
    Ted in EIRE.
    

    Mitch Webster was traded to Chicago, and Bob McClure is with the
    Pirates (not sure, but I saw him a few nights ago).  Also, there
    was a trade with the Reds, with five players involved.  Randy St.Claire
    is gone, and a couple of other guys.  I don't follow the Expos too
    closely (an American League fan to the core), but there have been
    a lot of changes since they changed general managers.
    
    BTW, the Expos are playing good baseball these days.  They have
    a shot at second place, but the Mets are playing too well to be
    beaten this year.  Montreal lost a heartbreaker last night in extra
    innings.
    
    Glenn

    Thanks for the info Glenn, it was much appreciated. Oh yeah, was
    Webster traded to the Cubs or the White Sox?

    Mitch Webster and Vance Law both went to the Cubs. I don't know
    who the Expos got in return. I don't think they got anything in return.
    
    The Expos won last night 6 to 4 over the Pirates. For the rough
    start they had this season, the Expos are playing pretty good ball.
    
    Glenn

    Hi Glenn,
    Listen am I talking to a Montreal Expos/Canadiens fan or just a
    friendly Canadian taking pity on an exile (smarm, smarm).
    
    When the Expos beat the Reds the annoucer said the Expos got a young
    prospect on whom they are very high.
    
    Is there any news about the Canadiens like trades or boasts that
    their new coach is making? I would appreciate any scraps you could
    throw my way.
    
    Thanks again.
    
    Ted.

    I think Law came to the Cubs as a free agent (as did Dawson the
    previous year), and Webster was traded even-up for Dave Martinez.
    
    Ashley

    
    
    I think that the people in the last replies should have started
    another note to talk about baseball.  I, like other people are 
    really excited about going to Montreal and would like to get some
    ideas on where to go and what to do, and you guys are talking sports.
    
    
    I would like to know about the underground shopping mall.  I'm sure
    that there are a lot of people out there who have visited this place.
    Could you tell me about it???  What is actually under there?? Just
    a couple of store??  I heard that it was an underground city.....
    
    Any info (about things for tourists to do) would be greatly
    appreciated.
    
    
    Thanx

    As a Montrealer, I often see all of this (undergroung ...) but I
    don't realise what it brings to the city.
    
    The underground �city� is really a maze of corridors that will bring
    you from central station to "Place-des-Arts" without (or almost)
    going outside.  All along the way, you'll find specialty boutiques,
    shops and restaurants.  The heart of this city is found under the
    Queen Elisabeth Hotel at metro Peel and/or MgGill (from Eaton to
    The Bay).
    
    The metro (subway) is also a very nice thing to visit.  If one has
    the time, each station is, in fact, a work of art.  Local artist
    are involved in the design of stations and try to decorate each
    one according to a theme.  Even though millions of persons walk
    these corridors each day, very few take the time to admire the work.
    It is, though, something one should visit.  Some stations are more
    beautiful than others, but all offer someting different, someting
    special. 

    Andr�_who'll_be_glad_to_give_any_info_on_this_city_he_loves_so_much!
    

    If you're coming during next week, there is a festival of hot air
    ballons at St-Jean sur le Richelieu (about 20 minutes south of
    Montr�al).
    
    It is a feast for the eyes (all the colors), also note that DIGITAL
    is spuncering an flying saucer shaped balloon, the biggest in this
    show.  A must see.
    
    Andr�_who_didn't_have_a_chance_to_go_there_yet!
    

    Bonjour Andri (ou Andre),
    
    I am the one who started asking about Les Canadiens et Les Expos.
    I am a Montrealais who now has to live in Dublin, Ireland. Dubliners
    talk about their city as though it was the only one on earth But
    I know that Montreal is still the most beautiful city I have ever
    been to (and I have had the chance to see quite a few). It is a
    North American city with something special. Montreal has a real
    touch of class, it's pretty and romantic like the women of Montreal.
    I miss it more the longer I live here. I'd love to get home.
    
    Montreal is many things and Les Canadiens/Expos is a big part of
    it. For our other friend, you should also see Place Desjardins and
    Place Victoria as well. Montreal c'est magnifique.
    
    Ted.

RE: .15

Salut Andre,

 How are you doing Preppy?  Did you (or anyone you know) happen to get
a picture of the DEC sponsored HA balloon at St. Jean?  I'd love to see one.  

Marc

        I come from St-Paul de l'Ile-aux-Noix, south of St-Jean.  Wished
        I had been around to see that, but I was at the nadir instead ...
        
        True what -1 says, that you're a preppy ?  :-)
        

    Hy Marc,
    
    Paul Roussin, sales rep, took a whole video of it, don't know though
    if a picture is available.  I think I could find one, what is your
    mailstop, I'll try to get you one.
    
    Andr�
    

    Sure, Kallos has enough hot air for a whole squadron of balloons
    (Fibredyne Forever!)
    
    8^)
    Scooter

        Not only did Paul Roussin take some pictures of the balloon, he
        organized Digital's involvement in the event.  I flew the balloon and
        can probably send out some pictures of it.  It's possible that there
        will be an article in Printout about the balloon and how the Montreal
        office used it to get publicity and impress a few customers by taking
        them for a flight in it.
        
        Regards,
        
        Garry
        
        

    I lived in Montreal for over 5 years and still go there often.(see
    the relatives)
    
    About the underground city. Its true! I traveled the METRO for a
    couple of years. Its very fast and all computer driven. The METRO
    was built by BOMBARDIER, the same company who builds SKI-DOO and
    has many contract in the US for building trains and subway cars.
    	I use to know people who lived in apartments in Montreal that
    didn't have to go outside at all. They could travel to and from
    work, shop, play, do anything without stepping one foot outside.
    Thats what we mean by the underground city.
    	
    	For night clubs, try Stanley street. There is usully a traffic
    jam at 3am from the crowds of people leaving the clubs.
    
    	There's more. Its a great city.

    One thing that may be interesting to others about the METRO, it
    runs on MICHELINS. Thats right, it is a rubber tired subway, not
    like the steel tracks in Toronto.

    Does anyone have any info about an accident that happened in Montreal
    this morning. It happened at McGill U. apparently a crane that was
    working on the building across the street from the Victoria College
    music dept. fell. It hit the music building.
    
    My daughter is attending there, and I got a frantic call about it
    from her. She was in the dorm next to the music dept.  She is OK...
    but I need more details.
    
    Jim

    Hi folks,
    my name is Alistair Pirrie,I work in Ayr Scotland I'm looking for
    the address of a friend of mine.She works at C.A.E electronics,but
    I've lost her address,I remember she said there was a DEC office
    a few blocks from her work,so if anyone out there could get her
    works address I would be very gratefull.
    
                                      Thanks Ally.

    
    CAE is a major customer of ours.
    
    CAE ELECTRONICS LTD
    PO BOX 1800
    ST LAURENT, QUE
    H4L 4X4
    
    This is the main mailing address for them.
    
    Roger

    Hi Roger,I don't know if you got my mail message or not I had a
    bit of trouble with my terminal,so if you didn't I'd like to say
    thanks for the info and if there's any info I can get you on 
    Scotland I'd be happy to return the favour.
    
                                 Thanks Again,
    
                                             Alistair.  

    I tried DIR/TITLE=FOOTBALL and got no results.
    
    I understand that an NFL preseason game has been scheduled in Montreal
    during August. The teams as I understand are the Patriots and the
    Steelers.
    
    A few questions.
    
    Where in Montreal will this be held? Exposition Stadium? 
    When will tickets go on sale? Will they be available through U.S.
    ticket outlets? Such as Ticketron? I understand tickets went real fast
    the last time there was a preseason game in Montreal.
    
    I would be interested in going to the game and would appreciate any
    answers to these questions which would help me.
    
    Thanks
    
    Kevin
    

<<Where in Montreal will this be held? Exposition Stadium? 


		The Velodrome.    

    No, in the OLYMPIC stadium, right next to the planned great waterway.
    
    Jean
    

       
       An exhibition game between the Steelers & Patriots will surely be
       one of the hottest tickets in town.  The stadium holds about
       60,000 people; if all the old Alouettes fans show up, that will
       leave only 59,936 tickets for everyone else.  After they're
       through selling tickets to Patriots fans, 59,932 tickets would
       remain. 
       
       I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up playing in the Autostade. 
       
       --Mr Topaz 

Nope.  They changed the location to the Grand Canal lockmaster's house in the 
Montr�al suburb of Ste. Cecile de Merde.

    Hey hold on, we don't say merde here we say "MARDE" as in:
    
    mange donc un char de marde.
    
    Jean
    

    <<mange donc un char de marde.

Merde, alors!!

    My boyfriend mentioned the possibility of going to Montreal for our
    vacation this year.  I would LOVE to see this city, but he has to 
    take his vacation the last 2 weeks of July, therefore I do the same.
    How is Montreal in July?  Is it like any other major city; i.e., hot
    and muggy?  How long a stay is suggested and where would you suggest
    we go from there?  We would be driving up from Massachusetts.
    
    Thanks for any and all info.  
    
    

    The last two weeks in july are the construction people's vacations,
    this means the city is pretty much deserted and the campings in most
    parks are quite busy.  Even tough it IS hot and muggy, by being fewer
    people around makes visiting easier (mind you the amusement park La
    Ronde will be quite busy).
    
    Have fun if you come up and if you need more info, write me directly.
    
    Jean
    

    I know it's been a while, but any more serious details on the Patriot's
    pre-season game? I understand it's set for August 9th.
    
    Feel free to send me mail off-line if preferred.
    
    Thanks
    
    Kevin
    

    I need some Montreal information.  I had some informtion on inexpensive
    places to stay in Montreal during the summer months - especially at the
    University dorms - but lent it out to friends who have moved away with
    the information.  I would appreciate it if anyone could send me some
    info or let me know the telephone # or address to write for the
    information.
    
    Thanks so much
    Jeanne

    Looking for help and advise for a good looking young blond moving to
    Montreal. Unfortunately, that's not me, I'm just mummy!
    My daughter is moving from the South of France to Montreal o/a early
    December to attend the University of Montreal for 2 years or so. 
    Can anyone provide info on housing for university students or info on
    costs and availability of small apartments or studios?
    
    Merci d'avance pour elle,
    Genevieve Holveck
    Geneva, Switzerland

    Genevieve,
    
    	If you would like some info on Montreal & area contact.
    
    Alan Atkinson
    extension 4106 
    EHQ - Geneva

    J'ai aussi r�pondu � Genevi�ve.
    
    Jean
    

    Jean,
    
    Merci de ta reponse (tiens, ce chose sur lequel je tape ne m'autorise
    pas a mettre des accents) et je pense que les documents ne vont pas
    tarder a arriver.
    
    Verrai je suppose Alan Atkinson incessamment sous peu car il est
    actuellement en deplacement.
    
    Merci encore.  A bientot autour d'un verre?
    
    Genevieve
    

    re: 13.1,
    
    	I realize this was an old note but I was curious about the Safari
    park in Hemingford.  We are 2 adults traveling to Montreal over
    Memorial Day weekened.  Is this something worth seeing?  
    
    	Would anyone have information as to who to contact for Expo's tix
    as well?
    
    				Thanks
    
    					

    RE:.43 - Parc Safari African
    
    Do you have a vinyl roof on your car? The answer to your question
    depends on the answer to this question. 
    
    :-)
    Alan
    

    Well to be honest, we have a sun roof!!...
    
    
    	How does this apply?
    
    		 :-)

    I'm looking for info on a restaurant I've heard about in Montrea
    called Pepe's.  The person I talked to hasn't been there in
    several years but said it had very good Italian food.  Does 
    anyone know if it is still in business or any more recent
    information on it?

    I and my family will be visiting Montreal during the week of Feb 15 to
    19, and I was hoping to get some advice concerning our trip.  We will be
    visiting a friend, but she is new to the area herself so I need some
    help from area experts....
    
    I will be travelling with my wife and two children, ages 8 and 9.
    
    Any special recommendations for activities this time of year,
    especially for the children? (I heard our timing is bad - we are just 
    missing a snow festival?)
    
    Any restaurant recommendations? We want to treat our host to a nice
    dinner, so some "up market" as well as family-style recommendations
    would be appreciated.
    
    We plan to do some skiing for a couple of days. Can anyone suggest a
    family-oriented ski area within an hour or two of the city, or recommend 
    a hotel?
    
    Is there a school vacation week at this time in Montreal? (i.e., should
    we expect crowds on the slopes?
    
    Lastly, I ordered standing-room tickets for the Canadians/Bruins game on the
    17th. Does anyone know how/where I could get a couple of seats? (I'm
    not holding out much hope on *this* one. I would assume these are as 
    difficult to get as Bruins tickets are in Boston.)
    
    Thanks in advance for any help and advice,
    
    Mike

    For a nice place to stay in Val David (in the Laurentides), call
    l'auberge du vieux foyer at 819-322-2686.
    
    Jean
    

    
    Also nice but $$$ in Val David call La Sapiniere. Sorry don't
    have the phone # handy.
    
    Pat

    Does Montreal have these two events scheduled for this year:
    
    1. Montreal Grand Prix
    2. Montreal Jazz Festival
    
    If so , can anyone supply me with the dates for these events?
    
    Mike
    

    The Grand Prix is this weekend.

    I will be spending a couple of days in Montreal during the last week of
    this month.  We will actually be renting a cottage on Lake Champlain
    and taking the subway into Montreal so we will not have a car.  I am
    assuing we can walk, take a bus or a taxi to just about anyplace in the
    city that we want to go to.  As we will only have a few days, what
    would people suggest as to the "must see's" and "must do's".  Also,
    suggestions on places to eat--we will probably go 1 night to someplace
    special/romantic so please make suggestions for that as well.  Also,
    if we are spending the whole day in Montreal sightseeing, we will not
    be "dressed up"; i.e., nice dress, heels/sport coat & tie.  Will this
    be a problem if we do want to go someplace special for dinner?
    
    Thanks for any and all info/suggestions.
    
    

>>We will actually be renting a cottage on Lake Champlain and taking the 
>>subway into Montreal

Are you talking about Lake Champlain in New York (eastern shore) and Vermont 
(western shore)? If so, that is one heck of a subway ride. 

Ben

    I thought the Biodome and Botanical Gardens were great.  If you like to
    walk and like nature it is wonderful.  Cost is about 12.50 for a pass
    for both.  You can do one each day or squeeze them into one day.
    
    Patricia
    
                               

    Re: 13.55 - We do love to walk and love nature.  What is the Biodome?
    Thanks for the suggestions.
    

The Biodome is group of 4 different environmental reproductions. I think there 
is an indoor rain forest, polar setting, Canadian Sheild setting (?), and 1
other. I haven't been myself but my sister in Montreal has visited on many
occasions and loves it.

Other attractions:

- Montreal lookout on Mount Royal (the one that looks south over downtown and not
  the one that looks east.)
- Old Montreal
- St Joseph's Oratory
 

Ben

    The Museum of Fine Arts on Sherbrooke (I'm not going to try to butcher 
    the french name) is worth a visit, the Contemporary Arts Museum at
    Place des Arts is not. 
    
    Montreal has plenty of wonderfully quirky informal places to dine, you 
    should eat in one of the older deli's, Ben's or Swartz's (Which isn't 
    actually call Swartz's on the sign outside but everyone calls it that). 
    You might also want to try the Bar-B-Barn on Rue Guy, rustic rib joint,
    been there forever. 
    
    For someplace romantic pick out a place in the old city when you're
    there during the day, it's got the whole spectrum of restaurants
    including some nice cafes.  
    

    If you haven't left yet... We took a short trip to Montreal last year
    and a friend took us to a restaurant named "Fondue-mentale" or some
    similar play on words. I cannot recall the street, but I know it's on a
    major road and easily reachable by the Metro. I'd highly recommend it
    for your "specialty" choice as it's a cozy, not overly formal setting 
    (Jeans are ok) and they specialize in all kinds of cheese and meat fondue,
    including some exotic meats I'm sure you've never tasted. And for your 
    sweet tooth at the end of the meal treat yourself to the the chocolate 
    fondue. You'll love it. Although not cheap, I don't recall it being too 
    pricey.
    
    I might suggest taking an organized bus tour on your first day. The
    Office of Tourism can help set you up, I'm sure. We found it gives you a
    relaxed overview of the entire city, you get bits of interesting
    information you might otherwise never know, and it includes stops at some 
    of the previous recommendations as well as the Olympic Stadium (BTW-This is
    where the Biodome is). Doing this, you get a good idea of the layout of 
    the city and have the option of returning to some of the sites the next 
    day on your own if you want to explore in more depth.
    
    I would also suggest a late afternoon walk around the old town,
    checking out different restaurants along the way, then pick one to your
    liking to go back for dinner.
    
    Montreal's a beautiful city - have fun.
    
    Mike

    Well, we'll be leaving on Sunday for Alburg, VT (thought we were
    staying in St. Albans).  Alburg is even closer to the Canadian border
    so we will be that  much closer to Montreal and can't wait to visit.
    Anything special going in there next week?  Any more suggestions of
    "must see's"?
    
    Thanks!
    

    
    I have a confession to make.
    
    I am grievously addicted to NTN Interactive Trivia.  You know, the
    nationwide trivia game on tv screens in bars and suchlike.  I know
    you've got them up in The Great White North; Canadian players often
    show up in the top twenty (I see you all nodding your heads in a proud
    fashion). 
    
    So here I am, planning a long weekend in Montreal this month, and I
    realized - omigawsh!  I have only ever noticed ONE bar in Qu�bec show
    up on the top twenty list, and it went by so fast I didn't catch the
    name, only that it was in La Salle (sp?).  
    
    The friend I'm meeting in Montreal also enjoys this game, but he
    doesn't live there and doesn't know of any places where we might find it.
    
    Can anyone help me out by posting or mailing a list of suggested NTN
    Interactive Trivia Endowed Watering Holes?  I promise not to spend my
    entire visit holed up in a bar with my fingers poised, trembling, over
    the keypad whilst getting Girl Drink Drunk.
    
    Mer�i,
    
    
    mz_debra
    

    
    mz_deb,
    
    My nefarious sources indicate that there is a Hawaiian-type bar in
    Lasalle called the Haraki (sp?) that may have the game.
    

    
    Ahha, a Hawaiian type bar.  I foresee coconut flavoured drinks with
    rum soaked fruit and paper umbrellas.
    
    Thank you, jc.  We'll be checking it out 8^).