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Title:MicroVAX, VAXstation, VAX 4000 Systems
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Jan 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri May 30 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4370
Total number of notes:18956

4346.0. "Memory Configurations on 3500 and 3520/3540" by DRAGNS::SAUNDERS () Thu Jan 30 1997 18:42

We're consolidating some systems prior to a move. This raises two questions:

1) We'd like to upgrade a 3540 system to 32M (or more) from 16M. What memory is
needed to do this? In particular, can MS650 memory be used?

2) We have three MV3500 systems, and only want one of them. How much memory can
we put into an MV3500? Also, what size are the following (MS650-AA, MS650-BA,
MS650-BF).

Of course, no one has seen the manuals for these systems for years...

Thanks,
John Saunders
DECdns Engineering

P.S. If I should have found the answers to these questions elsewhere, please
point me in the right direction.
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4346.1PROXY::J_EVANSFri Jan 31 1997 08:4612
    My 1989 SOC shows that the 3540 needs 
    
    MS60-AA   8Mbyte modules
    MS60-BA  16MByte modules
    
    The 1991 SOC shows there was an MS60-CA 32Mbyte module, with 3 memories
    max depending on the configuration.
    
    The 3500 was before my '89 SOC....
    
    jim
    
4346.2DAVIDF::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Fri Jan 31 1997 10:1922
Hi John!

	Carrying on from Dave?  Glad you stepped up to bat!  

	As for the MS650, on the 3500, you can only have a maximum of 4 memory
boards due to the private CPU-Memory bus.  Here are the capacities you were
looking for:

	MS650-AA	 8MB RAM MEMORY ARRAY FOR KA650 (M7621-BA)
	MS650-BA	16MB RAM MEMORY ARRAY FOR KA650 (M7622-AA)
	MS650-BF	FIELD INSTALLED 16MB RAM MEM ARRAY FOR KA650 (M7622-AA)

Some others...

	MS650-BC	32MB RAM MAEMORY ARRAY FOR KA650 (M7622-CA)

If you could get 4 MS650-BC, that would take you to 128mb.

	Good luck with the project!

	Regards,
		David Fox
4346.3Thanks!DRAGNS::SAUNDERSFri Jan 31 1997 11:487
Thanks for the replies.

If anyone has some spare Firefox memory they want to contribute to a good cause,
please let me know!

John Saunders
DECdns Engineering
4346.464 MB max total for MS650sKA680::CULLISONTue Feb 04 1997 09:474
    A MS650 memory that has 32 MB capacity is taking up effectively 2
    slots even though physically it is in one. Maximum memory size is 64 MB
    here period. You cannot get to 128 MB.
    					Harold Cullison
4346.53500.ne.3520CRLRFR::BLUNTWed Feb 05 1997 19:1221
    
    Don't forget that you need to have a funky 5-"drop" cable to be able to
    support 4 memory cards and the 3500 CPU.  Don't have the number at
    hand, or I'd post it.
    
    As for better Firefox info, sorry, I can't seem to recover the
    notesfile from the backup of the cluster it resided upon.  There is NO
    system bus correlation between the 3500 and the 3520 CPUs.  The 3520
    uses special memory, in 8, 16, and 32MB flavors.  Depending on your
    configuration, you could have up to 128MB, but I think that you'll
    limit your configuration possibilities (only 1 cpu, only 8-plane
    graphics, only 1 IOP).  Still, 128MB isn't a lot to sneeze at for
    a small workstation (hey, we're talking late '80s tech).
    
    I'm still trolling for help with those backups.  I've tried a number of
    different 8mm drives with different results (some drives read SOME
    tapes, others only read one, etc).  It's frustrating to have info that
    you can't access.
    
    
    bob
4346.6DRAGNS::SAUNDERSThu Feb 06 1997 10:026
Unfortunately, I only have a single-density Exabyte drive to offer, and I'm sure
you've found one of those.

Thanks,
John Saunders
DECdns Engineering
4346.7CRLRFR::BLUNTMon Feb 10 1997 11:179
    
    Yup, it's probably been in the list.  I'll see if I can find the
    listings files from the tapes that I have read; the others I'm not
    really sure if they've been init'd or I just am not holding "things"
    the right way.  I've been amazed how sensitive the 8mm drives seem to
    be to alignment (I had thought that this was not supposed to happen
    with helical scan).  Drat.
    
    bob
4346.8CX3PST::BSS::DSMITHI'LL GET UP AND FLY AWAYMon Apr 28 1997 17:248
    
    RE:3
    
    John
     if you still some spares for the Firefox send me a mail message, there
    were a few laying around CX03 waiting to go to scrap.
    
    Dave
4346.95-Drop memory cable part #CRLRFR::BLUNTWed Apr 30 1997 13:044
    re my .5, the part number for the 5-drop memory interconnect cable for
    the MicroVAX 3 series is 17-01898-03...
    
    bob
4346.10Thanks, Bob.DRAGNS::SAUNDERSJohn Saunders, DECdns Engineering, (508) 275-5424Wed Apr 30 1997 13:300