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Title:ACMS comments and questions
Notice:This is not an official software support channel. Kits 5.*
Moderator:CLUSTA::HALLAN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4179
Total number of notes:15091

4154.0. "acms debug of big servers?" by GIDDAY::REINHOLD () Mon Apr 21 1997 03:55

    Gidday,
    
    	VAX
        VMS V6.2
    	ACMS V4.1
    
    	I have a problem with a customer attempting to use ACMS debug to
    look at some server images in an application. It can look at 3 of the 4
    servers, the first 3 are between 1000 to 4000 blocks big. The failing
    server (which is all things to all people) is 13000 blocks big.
    
    	The problem is that the acms/debug drops back to the prompt with
    the status code of "2A26C".
    
    	We've had a look at a "show process/accounting" and a "show
    process/cont/id=xx" to try to see if Pagefilequota or Bytlim is too
    low. However, the process pagefile usage got to 47000, but the process 
    in Auth has the pagefilequota set to 100000. So it doesn't seem to 
    indicate the cause.
    
    	The account that the ACMS SERVER runs under has the bytlim of
    200,000 and the pagefilequota of 100,000. The account the debug is run
    from has the bytlim of 200,000 and the pagefilequota of 2000000.
    
    	The same application and server can be debugged fine on an Alpha.
    
    	Is there a limitation on the size of the server that can be handled
    by ACMS DEBUG ? 
    
    	Any suggestions of how to diagnose this further?
    
    
    					Cheers,
    						Dave Reinhold.
                 				CSC, Sydney, Australia.
    
    
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4154.1OHMARY::HALLBill Hall - ACMS Engineering - ZKO2-2Mon Apr 21 1997 09:0817
    
    	Are you trying to debug with the task debugger (ACMS/DEBUG .tdb) or
    	online (ACMS/DEBUG/SERVER/PID=...)?
    
    	The error code "2A26C" shows up as 
    
    This error message was found in SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]DBGTBKMSG.EXE;1
    
    %DEBUG-F-CANTACCESSMAIN, cannot access the main debugger
    
    
    	If you are using the task debugger, each of the servers is debugged
    in a subprocess with a mailbox attached to it.  The commands from the
    task debugger are sent/rec'd via this mailbox.
    
    Bill
    
4154.2fails on ACMS/DEBUG/SERVER/PID=..GIDDAY::REINHOLDTue Apr 22 1997 04:31587
    Gidday Bill,
    
    	The customer can use the ACMS/DEBUG .tdb fine.
    
    	The ACMS/DEBUG/SERVER/PID=... is the one that fails for this very
    		large server.
    
    
    		Any ideas of what I can look at to help the customer?
    
    
    					Cheers,
    						Dave
    
    
    The following are the AUTHORIZE entries and a sysgen show/all.
    
    
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4154.3CLUSTA::HALLBill Hall - ACMS Engineering - ZKO2-2Tue Apr 22 1997 10:236
    
    	You might try running the SHOW_QUOTA.COM file from the FREEWARE
    	CD-ROM.  Since this is a detached process, not all of the quotas
    	come from the SYSUAF, some come from PQL parameters.
    
    	Bill
4154.4Thanks....GIDDAY::REINHOLDThu Apr 24 1997 05:0128
    Hi Bill,
    
    	    I had requested the customer to check the quota's with
    SHOW_QUOTA.COM, he also had a tool called, WATCH_QUOTA.COM he claimed
    that there were no quota issues.
    	    I then got one of our senior VMS support people whom I very
    much respect his judgement, he dialed in, checked out the quota's,
    looked in sysgen etc. looked at the quotas as the process runs up, and
    didn't see anything that needed changing. He does not believe that this
    is a quota issue.
    
    	    So at that I am stuck, I do not have the ACMS skills to
    determine what to do next. Is there a way to turn on some kind of 
    debugging/logging in ACMS debug to see what is happening? Would 
    running an ACMSGEN or ACMSEXPAR.COM help to tune the parameters if
    it is in ACMS?
    
    	     I am really at a loss on where to go from here.
    
    	     Any suggestions ? Any other way of proving that it is a 
    quota problem etc?
    
    	     Once again thanks for any help that you can provide.
    
    
    				Cheers,
    					Dave
    
4154.5CLUSTA::HALLBill Hall - ACMS Engineering - ZKO2-2Fri Apr 25 1997 21:5212
    
    	Sorry, Dave
    
    	I don't have an answer.  When we debug ACMS we have large
    	images (ACMSHR is over 5.5K blocks) and haven't seen this
    	problem. It may be a debugger problem but it's going to be
    	hard to convince them  The only difference is that it
    	the task debugger case, it's a subprocess, in the on-line
    	case, it's a detached process.
    
    	Bill
    
4154.6PROCSECNTGIDDAY::REINHOLDWed May 28 1997 21:5911
    Just a brief note to anyone having a like problem using ACMS DEBUG on a
    running server.
    
    	The problem was finally corrected by increasing the sysgen parameter
    PROCSECNT for 40 to 60. 
                                                
        Thanks for the assistance Bill.
    
    					Cheers,
    						Dave