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Title:	ACMS comments and questions
Notice:	This is not an official software support channel. Kits 5.*
Moderator:	CLUSTA::HALLAN

Created:	Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4179
Total number of notes:	15091

4140.0. "ACMS 3.3 and VMS 6.2? (shudder)" by SNOFS1::SHERRARDTONY (Mr Mass) Wed Apr 02 1997 19:19

    Folks
    
    We have a customer that wishes to run ACMS 3.3-0B, DECforms 1.4-5 and
    VMS 6.2 (taking the existing environment and upgrading only VMS from
    6.1)
    
    We have impressed upon them that this is unsupported, that if there are
    problems the response will be to upgrade to supported versions, but
    they are unfazed.
    
    Does anyone know of any sites that are running this combination of
    versions successfully, or has anyone tried it and found that it simply
    doesn't work?
    
    Tony Sherrard

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4140.1		CLUSTA::HALL	Bill Hall - ACMS Engineering - ZKO2-2	`Wed Apr 02 1997 20:14`	19
	The combination does work but according to the SPD is not supported (the SPD lists the valid VMS versions). This means that if they encounter a problem, we can decide not to fix it. If the problem they encounter has been fixed in a newer release, then the response would be to upgrade. The only version of ACMS that supports OpenVMS V6.2 is ACMS V4.1, but with the problems we've encountered with the CMA threads and the timer problem, we are not encouraging anyone to upgrade to 4.1. Instead, they should wait for ACMS V4.2 which is scheduled to be submitted to SBB in a couple of weeks. The chances of them encountering a new problem with 3.3B is very remote, it's been out there for 5 or so years. Bill
4140.2	Great - Ta	SNOFS1::SHERRARDTONY	Mr Mass	`Wed Apr 02 1997 22:05`	5
	Bill Just the information we were looking for - thank you very much Tony
4140.3		CLUSTA::HALL	Bill Hall - ACMS Engineering - ZKO2-2	`Wed Apr 02 1997 23:03`	27
	Our goal is to support those versions that prove to be the best ones. ACMS 3.3B is a classic release that has enjoyed the longest history of support (it even runs on OpenVMS VAX 7.1, although I've been the only one to try it). ACMS V4.0 is somewhat of a mess with the ECO 1 and ECO 2 releases but it is still a very stable release. ACMS V4.1 has had some bad press, but only in that we tried to make it easy to accomodate the CMA environment only to be bitten by the dreaded timers. ACMS V4.2 has exorcised CMA from the processes that don't use them (it's only brought into CP under certain circumstances). Things are going to change, though. We are being pressed to support only the previous version and the current version. Prior version ( current - 2 or more) will only be done on a best effort. OpenVMS has the same policy, so you're going to see more pressure to get customers to upgrade. It's not going to be eas. ACMS customers are very reluctant to upgrade when the version they have running meets their needs. We still have lots of customers running ACMS V3.3B and 4.0 and the ECOs. I'll bet there are still lots of customers still running ACMS V3.2 (which is still compatible with ACMS V4.2). Bill