Conference irocz::terminal_servers

RE: .0

>    Is the DS90TL EOL?
 
Yes.
    
>    What is the recommended replacement(s)?

DS90M w/o Flash RAM.  I suppose you'll want a part number now?

Regards,

Dave

We settled on the 90TL a number of years ago and we now have about 40
of them and prefer them over the 90L+ mostly because of easier TSM use.

The external web pages have been updated and the 90TL has mostly been
removed, but the only part number given for the 90M is -DA and -NA.
The -AA and -MA are not listed, but I suspect that those prices are
more in line with the old 90TL pricing, and they are about $500 less USLP.

Btw, what I most dislike about the 90L+ is the requirement to use PASTHRU
and then use the "menu"s as opposed to just issuing the SET SERVER or SET PORT
commands to TSM.  Again its just a matter of habit and preference.

RE: .2

> We settled on the 90TL a number of years ago and we now have about 40
> of them and prefer them over the 90L+ mostly because of easier TSM use.

Just as a matter of clarity, we're not proposing to substitute the 90L+ for
the 90TL.

Regards,

Dave

    TSM DECserver 90l+ equivalents:
    
    DECserver to DS90L+ translations :
    ---------------------------------
    
    The following section is the actual list of how DECserver commands will
    be  mapped to DS90L+ commands.  The DS90L+ commands are on the left, and
    the DECserver equivalent commands are on the right. Attempts to set any
    port or server attributes not listed will result in a COMMAND NOT 
    SUPPORTED FOR SERVER TYPE error.  Combinations of the port and server 
    SET commands are allowed for all of the attributes except for the server 
    password.
    
    
                            ** SERVER COMMANDS **
    
    1. Enable Manager Mode
    SET M,E,<password>              SET PRIVILEGED <password>
    
    2. Disable Manager Mode
    SET M,D                         SET NOPRIVILEGED
    
    3. SET Authorized Operation
    SET AUTH,S,<password>           SET SERVER AUTHORITY <password>
    
    4. Clear Authorized Operation
    
    5. Changing Password
    SET PA,<old_password>,<new_password>    SET SERVER PRIVILEGED PASSWORD
    -
                                            <old_password> <new_password>
    
    Set Server Parameter
    general format: SET S,<name>,<prompt>,<actions>
    
    6. SET S,<name>,,                SET SERVER NAME <name>
    7. SET S,,<prompt>,              SET SERVER PROMPT "<prompt_string>"
    8. SET S,,,Z                     ZERO COUNTERS ALL
                                     ZERO COUNTERS
                                     ZERO
    9. SET S,,,F                     SET SERVER FACTORY DEFAULTS
    
    10. Reset Server
    RESET S                         INIT DELAY 0
    
    11. Show Dedicated/Preferred Service
    Show D                          SHOW DEDICATED PORTS
    
    12. Show server screen
    Show S                          SHOW SERVER
    
    13. Remote management of another server
    MOP <ethernet address> [<verification code>]      (pasthru mode only)
    
    14. Enable Port Autoconfigure
    SET AUTO,<port>,E               SET PORT <port> AUTOCONFIGURE ENABLE
    
    15. Disable Port Autoconfigure
    SET AUTO,<port>,D               SET PORT <port> AUTOCONFIGURE DISABLE
    
    
    16. Enable Dedicated Service
    SET D,<port>,E,<service>[,<node>[,<port>]]
                    SET PORT <port> DEDICATED <service>
                    SET PORT <port> DEDICATED <service> NODE <node>
                    SET PORT <port> DEDICATED <service> NODE <node> DEST
    <port>
    
    17. Disable Dedicated Service
    SET D,<port>,D                  SET PORT <port> DEDICATED NONE
    
    18. SET On-Demand Loading
    SET O,<port>,E                  SET PORT <port> ON-DEMAND ENABLE
    
    19. Disable On-Demand Loading
    SET O,<port>,D                  SET PORT <port> ON-DEMAND DISABLE20.
    Enable Port
    SET PO,<port>,E                 SET PORT <port> ENABLE
    
    21. Disable Port
    SET PO,<port>,D                 SET PORT <port> DISABLE
    
    22. Enabling Preferred Service
    general format: SET PR,<port>,E,<service>[,<node>[,<port>]]
                    SET PORT <port> PREFERRED <service>
                    SET PORT <port> PREFERRED <service> NODE <node>
                    SET PORT <port> PREFERRED <service> NODE <node> DEST
    <port>
    
    23. Disabling Preferred Service
    SET PR,<port>,D                 SET PORT <port> PREFERRED NONE
    
    24. Set Port Parameter                          (old grammar)
    general format:
    SET <port>,<name>,<speed>,<IFC>,<OFC>,<device>,<break>,<rem_mod>,<test>
    
                                    SET PORT <port> NAME <name>
                                    SET PORT <port> SPEED <speed>
                                    SET PORT <port> INPUT FLOW CONTROL
    <IFC>
                                    SET PORT <port> OUTPUT FLOW CONTROL
    <OFC>
                                    SET PORT <port> DEVICE <device>
                                    SET PORT <port> BREAK <break>
                                    SET PORT <port> REMOTE MODIFY <rem_mod>
    
    Port Test Commands
    25. SET <port>,,,,,,,,Y         SET PORT <port> LOOPBACK
    26. SET <port>,,,,,,,,N         SET PORT <port> NOLOOPBACK
    
    
    Show Port screens
    27. SHOW <port>                 SHOW PORT <port>
    28. SHOW P                      SHOW PORT ALL
    
    
    Server Help
    29. HELP                        SERVER HELP
    

fwiw, I had a chance to check the price and costs of the 90TL vs 90M w/o flash.
Guess what, the US list is identical for each and the the std cost of the 90M
is $3+ less.  As is typical for volume parts, newer is cheaper, and better.

Looks like some good product management; wish there were more for some other
parts of the company.