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Conference irocz::netrider

Title:NetRider --- Remote Network Access Conference
Notice:Please use keywords! See Note 2 for Directory of Important Notes
Moderator:LAVC::CAHILLON
Created:Tue Jan 24 1995
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:554
Total number of notes:2264

520.0. "DRAS on VMS host authentication, restricted/captive user fix doesn't (seem to) work" by KERNEL::PHILLIPSN (Neil Phillips) Tue Feb 18 1997 10:08

I have a customer, who is running drassrv on a VMS machine, managed from NT.  He is using host authentication, and
has problems with restricted/captive user authentication.  I have pointed him to the update 2, on the internet. 
He has installed this "patch", but it doesn't appear to make any difference.  Are we doing something wrong ?

NJP
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520.1Reformatted for 80 columns.IROCZ::D_NELSONDave Nelson LKG1-3/A11 226-5358Tue Feb 18 1997 11:0211
             <<< Note 520.0 by KERNEL::PHILLIPSN "Neil Phillips" >>>
     -< DRAS on VMS host authentication, restricted/captive user fix doe >-

I have a customer, who is running drassrv on a VMS machine, managed from NT.
He is using host authentication, and has problems with restricted/captive user
authentication.  I have pointed him to the update 2, on the internet. He has 
installed this "patch", but it doesn't appear to make any difference.  Are we 
doing something wrong ?

NJP

520.2Double check all of the reasons for rejectCSC32::R_BUCKAuthenticated and assimilatedTue Feb 18 1997 18:5826
    Might want to take a look at note 455.* again for possible reasons for
    Host authentication to fail.  Also we have created a customer readable
    article that documents the reasons as follows:
    
         Username not found in SYSUAF.DAT               
         User account is Disabled                       
         User account is Expired                        
         User account is Captive                        
         User account is Restricted                     
         User account has no network access "now"       
         User password expired because PWD_EXPIRED flag is set
         User password pre-expired                            
         User password expired because password lifetime has passed
         User password didn't match supplied password              
         User account has a secondary password
    
    As far as the patch goes, as long as the callout modules is placed in
    the proper directory, the Captive check should no longer be made. 
    Do not believe you have to stop and restart the DRAS server, but it
    would be a good idea to do so after putting the new images on the
    OpenVMS system.  If the only reason the user was refused access is
    because the account had the Captive flag set, the new image should take
    care of everything.
    
    Randall Buck
    MCS - Network Support
520.3All checks made & still no progress.KERNEL::PHILLIPSNNeil PhillipsFri Feb 21 1997 05:3012
Thanks for the reply Randall,

	I have checked out the things you suggested, & looked at note 455.*.  Unfortunately I have been unable to
cleared problem.

I have checked the callout file being used (SDA channels), and done an analy/image on the file.  The file has a
date of Jan 96.

Any other ideas ?, the machine is running VMS v7.0 (VAX).

Thanks again 
NJP  
520.4Reformatted for 80 columns...IROCZ::D_NELSONDave Nelson LKG1-3/A11 226-5358Fri Feb 21 1997 10:0916
             <<< Note 520.3 by KERNEL::PHILLIPSN "Neil Phillips" >>>
                   -< All checks made & still no progress. >-

Thanks for the reply Randall,

	I have checked out the things you suggested, & looked at note 455.*.
Unfortunately I have been unable to cleared problem.

I have checked the callout file being used (SDA channels), and done an 
analy/image on the file.  The file has a date of Jan 96.

Any other ideas ?, the machine is running VMS v7.0 (VAX).

Thanks again 
NJP  

520.5Couple more ideas and things to checkCSC32::R_BUCKAuthenticated and assimilatedMon Feb 24 1997 14:4421
    Well you really have me stumped at this point.  As a troubleshooting
    technique, I would create an account with no restrictions and ses if
    the DRAS HOST authentication works with it.  Make sure to check those
    accounting records in DRAS$MANAGER to see if there is a problem with
    the username or password.  Have seen situations where authentication
    fails with the Local -1107- error is the secret value does not match
    up.  All the usual checks for the DRAS account apply also.  Make sure
    it is enabled.  If the connection is dedicated PPP then you need to
    make sure Framed or Framed Callback is selected, otherwise, NAS Prompt
    is usually sufficent.
    
    Any error message from the DECserver?  Does PASSWORD authentication
    work?  If yes, then this would verify that DRAS is installed and
    running correctly on the OpenVMS system.  Have seen UCX get hosed up
    and cause problems trying to communication with the DRAS client
    (DECserver).  
    
    Hopefully some of these questions/ideas will help.
    
    Randall Buck
    MCS - Network Support