| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 802.1 | Still shipped with the boxes | MARVIN::WALTER | | Fri Mar 14 1997 11:58 | 5 |
| The cards certainly are still produced - in fact there are
new ones.
I assume they are in some strange format that makes them difficult
to put into on-line docs.
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| 802.2 | Cards are printed | KEEF::PETERS | | Mon Mar 17 1997 05:02 | 7 |
| Walter is right. The quick reference cards were produced in hard copy
only, and are distributed with the hardware.
For V3 we intend to combine the cards into a quick reference booklet,
which again will be distributed in hard copy format only.
Steve Peters
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| 802.3 | What prevents these from being accessible on-line? | NETCAD::BATTERSBY | | Mon Mar 17 1997 10:20 | 5 |
| Just out of curiosity, what is the difficulty encountered that
prevents these quick-ref guides from being able to be made
available in a format that would make them accessible on-line?
Bob
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| 802.4 | They are not on-line because they are CARDS | KEEF::PETERS | | Mon Mar 17 1997 11:21 | 30 |
| > Just out of curiosity, what is the difficulty encountered that
> prevents these quick-ref guides from being able to be made
> available in a format that would make them accessible on-line?
Bob,
Since you asked ... briefly, the difficulty is that the on-line format
we use (Dynatext) has very stringent formatting requirements, which
demand standard definitions for every paragraph style, and every
character change from the default (bolding, italics, underlines, font
changes etc), plus restrictions on the artwork. The layouts work in
print, but do not meet the technical requirements of Dynatext.
The manuals were laboriously converted because they needed to be in
that form. The cards were not converted because they were never
supposed to be done. The cards were designed and intended for use as
printed cards only.
Now it would take someone weeks of mind-bendingly dull editing to
change the formats of every paragraph style and character style change
to comply with the requirements for on-line production. Take a look at
the cards to see what is involved!
There is too much else to do, and no spare resources for this task. If
I reformat the cards, the V3 manuals will not cover the new
functionality.
Steve
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| 802.5 | Understand now....thanks for explanation | NETCAD::BATTERSBY | | Mon Mar 17 1997 13:03 | 11 |
| Thanks Steve, for the brief and informative explanation of
the Q/R cards and why they don't easily format in Dynatext.
I was simply curious as to what the primary inhibition was
to making this information electronically available. It seemed
like everything else these days is electronically avasilable
in some form, whether it be html, Dynatext, etc. Nevertheless I
am keenly aware of the priority of resources, and agree 100%
that it wouldn't be worth taking time away from something else
to do it.
Bob
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| 802.6 | | IROCZ::GUNNER | | Mon Mar 17 1997 15:19 | 8 |
| I would not spend a lot of time making them Dynatext format.
but, why can't you make them available in some other format
such as PostScript or PDF ? In reality, if these are not
available on-line then they will not get read nor used by
engineering or field support I suspect - since we rarely
get our hands on hardcopy.
Chris
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| 802.7 | CSC's deal with little "hard-copy" form these days.... | NETCAD::BATTERSBY | | Mon Mar 17 1997 16:08 | 12 |
| >> In reality, if these are not
>>available on-line then they will not get read nor used by
>>engineering or field support I suspect - since we rarely
>>get our hands on hardcopy.
That was at the core of why I asked my question, prompted
by the question of availability asked in the base note.
IE: are we losing some information exchange/help to our
customers by not making this information available in an
electronic form which would/could supplant the hard-copy form?
Bob
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| 802.8 | OK, I'll see what I can do for you | KEEF::PETERS | | Tue Mar 18 1997 05:38 | 8 |
| I don't have the V2.0 .PS files for the quick reference cards, but I'll
see if I can get them from the team that submitted them. The files
that I do have have some minor differences, so I'd rather get the
original files for you.
I'll be back!
Steve
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| 802.9 | PS/PDF versions of QRCs now available | KEEF::PETERS | | Thu Mar 20 1997 06:44 | 9 |
| I have now added zip files containing the Quick Reference cards in
Postscript form and PDF form. You will find them in the table of files
under the heading Adobe Acrobat Version.
Check out
http//www-engreo.dec.com/idcukw3/drs20doc/index/htm
Steve
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| 802.10 | | MARVIN::HIGGINSON | Peter Higginson DTN 830 6293, Reading UK | Mon Mar 24 1997 04:56 | 6 |
| Re .9
The correct url seems to be:
http://www-engreo.reo.dec.com/idcukw3/drs20doc/index.htm.8
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| 802.11 | Once more, with feeling | KEEF::PETERS | | Mon Mar 24 1997 05:29 | 10 |
| Thanks Pete,
That was inexcusable. How many mistakes did you manage to spot in the
"url" in .9? I stopped looking after I found 3. Let's try again . . .
The V2.0 docs can be found in a selection of your favourite formats at:
http://www-engreo.reo.dec.com/idcukw3/drs20doc/index.htm
Steve
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