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Conference turris::digital_unix

Title:DIGITAL UNIX(FORMERLY KNOWN AS DEC OSF/1)
Notice:Welcome to the Digital UNIX Conference
Moderator:SMURF::DENHAM
Created:Thu Mar 16 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:10068
Total number of notes:35879

9925.0. "CI/HSC support ?" by HGOV08::DONWONG () Fri May 23 1997 00:19

    
    Hi,
    
    I recently noticed CI and HSC supported in DUNIX,  I got the following
    information from 4.0C SPD.  Can anyone explain how to use those devices?
    
    
         Table 11: AlphaServer 8200 5/300, 5/350, 5/440; AlphaServer 8400
            __________5/300,5/350,_5/440_______________________________________
    
    
         Memory:          1 GB [1]              14 GB[1]
    
    
         Storage          KDM70, CIXCD-AC[2]    KZPSC-BA (PCI       KZMSA[6]
         Adapters         KZPSA-BB (PCI FWD)    RAID)
         & Controllers:   KZPSC-AA (PCI         KZPAA (PCI SCSI)    KFE70-
                          RAID)[5]                                  AA
                                                                    (EISA
                                                                    Bridge)
    
    
         I/O Servers:     HSC40[3]              HSC65[3]            HSC90[3]
                          HSC50[3]              HSC70[3]
                                                                    HSC95[3]
    
    
         Disks:           RA60[4]               RA73                RA90
                          RA71                  RA81                RA92
                          RA72                  RA82
    
    
         Tapes:           TA78                  TA79                TA90
                                                                    TA91
    
    
    Thanks
    Don
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9925.1SSDEVO::ROLLOWDr. File System's Home for Wayward Inodes.Fri May 23 1997 00:4854
	In the case of the 8200/8400 systems you throw away a
	perfectly good hose by putting an hose to XMI widget
	on it.  Then you put a CIXCD or KDM70 on the XMI bus.  
	The XMI isn't a total waste, since you can also use the 
	XMI FDDI and Ethernet adapters on it.  For a DEC 7000
	you already have the XMI and the KZMSA is arguably worse
	then the CI adapters and HSC based storage.

	The "RA" devices are disks.  The largest capacity disk
	of the series made was a 5.25" form factor device with
	a capacity of 2 GB.  Modern disks of compariable form-
	factor are up 23 GB.  The disks don't have any cache,
	so getting the maximum data rate is pretty hard.  On
	the other hand the maximum is about 2.2 MB/sec so a
	speed demon it isn't.  The RA family does support command
	queuing, so the random access performance isn't too bad,
	for a 5 year old 5.25" disk.

	The "TA" devices are tapes.  The TA90/TA91 is an IBM 3480
	class tape drive.  These are fast tape drives, allowing
	for the 2.2 MB/sec wire.  The TA79 is your basic vacuum
	column 9 track tape drive.  Other than their age and
	performance, the biggest draw back of these drives is the
	foot-print.  The TA79 uses as much floor space as an 8400,
	the TA90 about three 8400s.

	Of course your biggest problem is that you can't buy any
	of this stuff new.  If you've maxed out the SCSI controller
	support on a 8400 class system and have a spare hose, then
	you could put more disks and tapes on it; if you can find
	any.

	The KDM70 is an 8 port combination disk/tape controller that
	plugs into the XMI.  The HSC is a family of multi-port controllers
	that connect via the CI.  The most powerful member of the family
	is the HSC95 which supports up to 48 MSCP disks and includes a
	read cache (no read-ahead though).  Some versions allow connecting
	SCSI disks and tapes, but I don't think Digital UNIX supports
	this feature. The modern follow-on to the HSC is HSJ, but it isn't 
	supported either.

	To its credit, the HSC is a multi-host disk controller.  Any
	system on the CI has equal access to all devices on the HSC.
	It would be unwise to share such disks among systems, but it
	could make for very quick and direct failover, if the feature
	were supported.  The underlying storage architecture allows
	for two connections to a device, though not at the same time.
	This allows failover through multiple HSCs, but that isn't
	supported either.

	Beyond that, MSCP disks and TMSCP tapes are just more storage.
	The problem is that compared to modern SCSI based storage they
	are large, slow, expensive and proprietary.
	
9925.2fading memories....SMURF::WOODWARDFri May 23 1997 08:005
    also they are funnelled on SMP machines so performance will suffer
    further.
    
    /jim