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Title:DIGITAL UNIX(FORMERLY KNOWN AS DEC OSF/1)
Notice:Welcome to the Digital UNIX Conference
Moderator:SMURF::DENHAM
Created:Thu Mar 16 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:10068
Total number of notes:35879

9714.0. "OS upgrade and layered products" by DYOSW5::WILDER (Does virtual reality get swapped?) Mon May 05 1997 11:24

    When doing a base OS upgrade (from 4.0a --> 4.0b), there are certain
    layered products that MUST be de-installed. This is okay. However,
    during the upgrade, it warns you that certain layered products MAY have
    to be re-installed, like the AdvFS utilities, DECevent, Performance
    Manager, etc.
    
    Now, my customer has a new Administrator, and they ask "How do we know
    if we have to upgrade these products?What do we read that tells us
    which of these products have newer versions?" 
    
    Well, that is a good question. I don't see anything any any of the
    documentation that tells me that with the new release of 4.0b, which
    layered products HAVE changed. How does a customer tell this easily?
    
    Thanks,
    
    /jim
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9714.1Any answer yet??DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Wed May 07 1997 08:1210
    Well, is there an answer?? This is REALLY important to the customer,
    especially the AdvFS utilities. I don't see anything in the Release
    Notes or the Installation guide. How does a customer EASILY tell if the
    products they are warned about durint the upgrade need to be
    re-installed due to newer versions?
    
    Thanks,
    
    /jim
9714.2BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneA wretched hive of scum and villainyThu May 08 1997 19:223
How about reading the release notes of the specified products?

PJDM
9714.3Release notes don't helpACISS2::WILDER_JDoes virtual reality get swapped?Sun May 11 1997 15:3821
    Well, the release notes for the AdvFS Utilities states that they
    support versions 4.0 and above. That does not answer the question. 
    
    The question is: Have the Utilities changed with the latest release and
    if so, how does one tell?
    
    If you install the "latest" utilities, the subset number changes.
    However, from a system administrators's view, how do they know if the
    version has changed? This applies to the other complementary products,
    like DECevent, Performance Manager, etc. I have looked at the release
    notes and the installation guide on the CD, and I don't find any
    reference to them REQUIRING 4.0x, just that they support say 4.0 and
    above. This, as I said above, does not tell anyone if they changed from
    the last release.
    
    Any help, or is it just "guess work"???
    
    Thanks,
    
    /jim
9714.4DECWET::MARTINMon May 12 1997 16:0825
Well, I can tell you what versions of the AdvFS Utilities go with what versions
of the base OS.  But I can't tell you how to tell.  Sorry, I don't have a clue
to that either.

AFAADV*320 works on all flavors of v3.2.  It does *not* work on any v4.x baseOS.

AFAADV*400 is intended to work on v4.0.  It will also work on v4.0a, v4.0b, and
v4.0c.  It *should* work on all releases labeled v4.0x, including PTmin, but
does not work on any v3.2x version.

AFAADV*401 is intended to work on v4.0a.  It has a few minor bug fixes from the
400 version, and will work on exactly the same releases as the 400 version.

AFAADV*402 is another bugfix release shipped with v4.0b.  Works on the same
releases as above.

AFAADV*4(03? 25?) will ship with PTmin, which is currently called v4.0d (I
think).  It includes support for Japanese (Kanji?) internationalization, and a
few other changes.

In Steel (v4.2? v5.0?), the advanced utilities will be bundled in with the base
OS.  You will no longer need to worry about which version goes with what for the
AdvFS advanced utilities.  This should be a well-publicized change, and we're
working to make sure that even if a customer misses this information, an
upgrade-install will work for them.
9714.5Shouldn't there be a way??DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Mon May 12 1997 18:155
    Shouldn't there be some EASY way for customers to tell if they need to
    re-install their products?? Or am I just dreaming??
    
    /jim
9714.6DECWET::MARTINMon May 12 1997 18:302
Yes, there should.  I don't know what it is, so I'd recommend raising the issue
with product management.