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Title:DIGITAL UNIX(FORMERLY KNOWN AS DEC OSF/1)
Notice:Welcome to the Digital UNIX Conference
Moderator:SMURF::DENHAM
Created:Thu Mar 16 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:10068
Total number of notes:35879

9067.0. "password-recognition problems (NIS,dUNIX, hp-ux)" by MUNICH::CUZUM () Fri Mar 07 1997 08:05

Hi, NIS-wizards,

my customer has a hp-ux nis-master-server and some digital-unix clients.
Some users get problems, when they want to log in coming from
digital-unix clients. They always get: "unsuccessfull login". This
happens only for those users, which have an enabled password-aging in
the hp-master's passwd. I found some note on Comet, telling this is
normal and digital can't get along with hp's password aging strings in
passwd. Is this correct? Is there any solution for this problem, so that
the customer shouldn't be forced to renounce neither on password-aging
for this users nor on digital-unix clients?

Regards,

Corina

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9067.1NETRIX::"[email protected]"Ann MajeskeFri Mar 07 1997 11:2018
The password aging function must be HP proprietary.  Certainly, we don't
have it on Digital UNIX with base security.  Digital UNIX with Enhanced
security
does have a password aging function, but it is not compatible with HP.  If HP 
has modified the format of the password field in any way to implement password
aging, the standard Digital UNIX identification and authorization (I&A)
routines
will not recognize the password.  

Your customer can look into writing their own I&A (SIA) routines for the
Digital
UNIX systems, but this is not a trivial task.  Check out the Security manual
for information on SIA and siad_* routines.  Even after doing this, I don't
think your customer could use yppasswd(1) on the Digital UNIX machines to 
change the password.  I did a quick check through the code and it appears that

yppasswd(1) doesn't use SIA.
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9067.2not a new one...namix.fno.dec.com::jptFIS and ChipsMon Mar 10 1997 16:0222
	This issue has risen several times, and about year ago I asked
	our PM's if we could add a functionality, that would ignore
	HP's extra password aging "bits". Implementing this would
	be very straightforward as the HP's aging format is simple 
	enough.

	Answer I received after exchanging few mails was "We'll look
	at it and see if it could be done", but I have neither heard
	or checked what was the final decicion on this. We have 
	at least three large HP customers asking us to implement it, so
	it might be worth of revisiting this topic. I'll see if I find
	the old mail converstation I had...

	Of course opening a product requirement (as I once did for this)
	would be better way to proceed...

		-jari

	PS: Yes, this is HP's NON-STANDARD way of implementing the
	functionality!!! And HP dares to call our DIGITAL UNIX "non-
	standard UNIX implementation" in the fron of our customers!!!!