Conference turris::digital_unix

    Have you submitted a QAR on this problem ? This is the first I have
    seen of this and we will investigate. 
    
    wendy
    UEG/I18N
    

> wendy
> UEG/I18N
  ^^^

	I haven't seen your group called UEG for a while, I thought
	it's official name was now OSG?

>	I haven't seen your group called UEG for a while, I thought
>	it's official name was now OSG?

It's changed so many times none of us remembers for sure either, but I'm pretty
sure it's NOT OSG anymore.

The web page at www.zk3.dec.com calls us the 'UBPG' - UNIX Base Product
Group.   The next level up is called the 'UNIX Business Segment'.

Whatever.

FWIW, I've seen ocassional Unaligned accesses while running Netscape Gold V3.01
on Digital UNIX V4.0 using the default locale. The problems generally don't
crash Netscape. I haven't been able to reproduce them, so I haven't reported
them.

Also, the version of Netscape installed on my V4.0 system by default was this:
 
OSFNETSCAPE400       installed  Netscape Navigator V1.12I (Windows Applications)

I needed to install V3.01 Gold myself.

-Jeff

We tried to reproduce the bug but we haven't found anything wrong when
running it in our machines.

To further investigate the problem, we need more information.

Exactly what version of UNIX are you running?
(You can check the first line of the file /etc/motd)

Are you running CDE?  If so, are you logging into CDE under the ko_KR
locale by using the OPTIONS button in the login box?  Or are you setting
ko_KR in another manner?

Do you always have the same problem when running netscape?  Same error
messages?  Or does this only happen at times?

A step-by-step procedure of everything you do from the time you log in until
you get the error will be very helpful.

Thanks,

Seung Jae Lee
ZKO3-3Y34
DTN 381-1693
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

Hi. Seung Jae Lee

First Thank you for your effort.
I use UNIX V4.0A and CDE has default ko_KR login box...

My /etc/motd;
     -----------------
     cat /etc/motd
     -----------------
     Digital UNIX V4.0A  (Rev. 464); Tue Dec 17 13:00:14 KST 1996
     Digital UNIX Korean Support V4.0A (rev. 3.1)
     
     The installation software has successfully installed your system.
     
     There are logfiles that contain a record of your installation.
     These are:
     
        /var/adm/smlogs/install.cdf     - configuration description file
        /var/adm/smlogs/install.log     - general log file
        /var/adm/smlogs/install.FS.log  - file system creation logs
        /var/adm/smlogs/setld.log       - log for the setld(8) utility
        /var/adm/smlogs/fverify.log     - verification log file

CDE was set to ko_KR (default screen is ko_KR, I do't use OPTION button);
    -----------------
     CDE default to korean & change Hangul(Korean) toggle key
    -----------------
    /.X11Startup: /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap $HOME/.dxkeycaps
    /.dtprofile: xmodmap $HOME/.dxkeycaps
    /.dxkeycaps: line 148-149: keycode 0x39 =  F19
                               keycode 0x58 =  F20
    - set to F19 in input method setting window (hangul start)
    - set to F19 in input method setting window (hangul stop)
    - set to F20 in input method setting window (hanja start)
    /etc/dt/config/Xconfig: line 87: Dtlogin*language:          ko_KR
    
Unaligned access messages ALWAYS display.
Sometimes navigator go out from the screen.
Core dump problem ALWAYS happens when I'm trying to connect the Netscape 
WWW Server admin page(after successful login access prompt).

You'd better get into my workstation with a user.
I will send your account password to [email protected]. Then, you can
see my environment in detail.

After login as root at my console, invoke DECterm, change to /usr/bin/X11,
invoke ./real-netscape.

Best regards.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS DEK
DTN 669-2939

P.S.: The below is not navigator problem 
      but I think another korean(or multibyte language) problem.
      When I try to rebuild kernel. Some files have illegal multibyte 
      character so I have to set LANG to "C" instead of "ko_KR" and 
      rebild kernel.
      The message is "An invalid multibyte character was encountered ..".
      and the file I found is /usr/sys/data/pcxal_data.c which has 
      illegal character within comment string around 1874 line.
      Could you report this problem to proper team?

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    If you are running Open3D 4.0 or 4.1, that could possibly explain
    the unaligned access messages. I won't get into the details, but
    the fix for that part of the problem is to upgrade to Open 3D 4.2.
    
    What kind of graphics card does the system have? There have been
    some flakey problems seen with Netscape and the ZLXp-L[1|2]
    graphics card(s).
    
    -Jeff D.
    

    Have you tried running this version of Netscape in the C locale rather 
    than in the Korean locale ? You can do this simply by setting LANG=C
    prior to starting Netscape. 
    
    wendy
    

Do you experience the same problem when you run netscape with users other than
root?

Did you install Netscape 3.0 into your machine?
I'm just confused about this since I believe Netscape 1.12 is bundled with
4.0A.

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

Hi all.

9032.7 wrote(Jeff D.):
>    If you are running Open3D 4.0 or 4.1, that could possibly explain
>    the unaligned access messages. I won't get into the details, but
>    the fix for that part of the problem is to upgrade to Open 3D 4.2.

Yes, you right, Great!
I installed Open3D 4.1 some months ago because test another problem. 
After delete it in my workstation today unaligned messages are NOT displayed.
In my thought the unaligned access problem will be close if Open 3D 4.2 
work well.
My customer's AS255 has to install Open 3D beacuse system hangs up
when set InlayColor in CDE wallpaper. (Hmm, bug on bug.) See 1770.3 in
conference alphastation on wrksys.
I don't have 4.2 version...
Thanks a lot, Jeff D.
    
>    What kind of graphics card does the system have? There have been
>    some flakey problems seen with Netscape and the ZLXp-L[1|2]
>    graphics card(s).
    
I have AS200 workstation with ZLXp-E and my customer AS255 with 3D30.
But both system have core-dump problem.

-------------

9032.8 wrote(wendy):
>    Have you tried running this version of Netscape in the C locale rather 
>    than in the Korean locale ? You can do this simply by setting LANG=C
>    prior to starting Netscape. 

Of course, C locale is No problem. No message. No core-dump.

------------

9032.9 wrote(seung jae lee):
>Do you experience the same problem when you run netscape with users other
than
>root?
Yes, When I try with normal user the same core dumped.

>Did you install Netscape 3.0 into your machine?
>I'm just confused about this since I believe Netscape 1.12 is bundled with
>4.0A.
Sorry. I did not mention that I install navigator3.0gold from
"http://www.unix.digital.com/products/internet/legal_ng.html"
last year. Now the URL has 3.01 gold version. And 3.01 has same core problem.
If you want to get my 3.0 gold it is in "ftp:/dk0193.dek.dec.com/pub/digital
/internet/Web_Browser/Netscape/v3.00g_os_bundled/navgold_v30.tar.gz"
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------

I found two another core-dump seqences.
With Unix4.0a, navigator 3.00gold & ko_KR locale.
(size: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root     system   7192576 /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape)
(command: /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape)

1. 1) open URL http://www.interpia.net/interpiahome1225/search.html.
   2) type some any characters into the first input box.
   3) then push the right button of the box for search.
   4) you can see Security "Warning message" box then select 
      "Continue Submission" button.
   5) core dumped. (Not always. sometimes 3 search try)

   -rw-------   1 root     system   7888896  3��11�� 13:18 core

# ladebug  /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape core
Welcome to the Ladebug Debugger Version 4.0-23
------------------
object file name: /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
core file name: core
Reading symbolic information ...done
Core file produced from executable real-netscape
Thread terminated at PC 0x24564c24 by signal SEGV
(ladebug) where
>0  0x24564c24 in UnknownProcedure6FromFile354(0x14600200, 0x142705a8,
0x24564d1
c, 0x11ffc530, 0xc002f3, 0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#1  0x24564d18 in UnknownProcedure7FromFile354(0x24564d1c, 0x11ffc530,
0xc002f3,
 0x1, 0x2453c1b4, 0x11ffc530) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#2  0x2453c1b0 in /usr/shlib/libX11.so
#3  0x2445a618 in UnknownProcedure30FromFile14(0x1426a000, 0x3, 0x0, 0x2, 0x0,
0
x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#4  0x2445a8ac in XtDispatchEvent(0x146077c0, 0x101000000, 0x0, 0x1467fc88,
0x0,
 0x101000000) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#5  0x243ddd7c in UnknownProcedure5FromFile82(0x145ed000, 0xc7ff8003,
0x24453fd4
, 0x145ed000, 0x2446b960, 0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile82:???
#6  0x2444974c in XtCallCallbackList(0x24453e00, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x6f)
Debug
InformationStrippedFromFile3:???
#7  0x24453e20 in UnknownProcedure2FromFile11(0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x6f, 0x24453cc4,
0
x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#11 0x2445a8d4 in XtDispatchEvent(0x1426e180, 0x27, 0x1426a000, 0x1700020000,
0x
0, 0x145f4100) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#12 0x2446ac4c in XtAppProcessEvent(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x532903324dd0e)
De
bugInformationStrippedFromFile28:???
#13 0x1210f15c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#14 0x120d748c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#15 0x121cae0c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#16 0x12152878 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#17 0x12152688 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#18 0x120e6928 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#19 0x244496ec in XtCallCallbackList(0x1461c400, 0x0, 0x14512d00, 0x1461c400,
0x
0, 0x14512dc0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile3:???
#20 0x2432cfe0 in UnknownProcedure4FromFile50(0x1461c450, 0x14585398, 0xa,
0x11f
fd6e8, 0x1, 0x11ffd6e8) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile50:???
#21 0x2432cd14 in UnknownProcedure2FromFile50(0xa, 0x11ffd6e8, 0x1,
0x11ffd6e8,
0x2448aac8, 0x4) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile50:???
#22 0x2448aac4 in UnknownProcedure12FromFile48(0x1451a880, 0x0, 0x11ffd4f0,
0x14
512dc0, 0x145132c0, 0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile48:???
#23 0x2448b668 in UnknownProcedure19FromFile48(0x0, 0x1, 0x1, 0x11ffd540,
0x1461
c400, 0x11ffd4f0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile48:???
#24 0x2448b76c in _XtTranslateEvent(0x5, 0x1, 0x0, 0x0, 0x145c7400,
0x145c7400)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile48:???
#25 0x24459920 in XtDispatchEventToWidget(0x142705a8, 0x145860c0, 0x1, 0x1,
0x0,
 0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#26 0x2445a63c in UnknownProcedure30FromFile14(0x1426a000, 0x1, 0x0,
0x170002000
0, 0x0, 0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#27 0x2445a8ac in XtDispatchEvent(0x1426e180, 0x27, 0x1426a000, 0x1700020000,
0x
0, 0x14552e00) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#28 0x2446ac4c in XtAppProcessEvent(0xd6d6d6d6d6d6d6d6, 0xd6d6d6d6d6d6d6d6,
0xd6
d6d6d6d6d6d6d6, 0xd6d6d6d6d6d6d6d6, 0xd6d6d6d6d6d6d6d6, 0x95e103324dd0b)
DebugIn
formationStrippedFromFile28:???
#29 0x1210f15c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#30 0x121122bc in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#31 0x120ac79c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
(ladebug) q


2. 1) select with mouse.  Option and,
   2) Network_Preferences - Proxies - Manual... - Auto... - Manual... 
      - View - OK (or Cancel)
   3) core dumped.

   -rw-------   1 root     system   7331840  3��11�� 20:09 core

# ladebug  /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape core
Welcome to the Ladebug Debugger Version 4.0-23
------------------ 
object file name: /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape 
core file name: core
Reading symbolic information ...done
Core file produced from executable real-netscape
Thread terminated at PC 0x24564c24 by signal SEGV
(ladebug) where
>0  0x24564c24 in UnknownProcedure6FromFile354(0x145fea00, 0x142705a8,
0x24564d1c, 0x11ffd4c0, 0xc002d9, 0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#1  0x24564d18 in UnknownProcedure7FromFile354(0x24564d1c, 0x11ffd4c0,
0xc002d9, 0x1, 0x2453c1b4, 0x11ffd4c0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#2  0x2453c1b0 in /usr/shlib/libX11.so
#3  0x2445a618 in UnknownProcedure30FromFile14(0x1426a000, 0x2, 0x0, 0x2, 0x0,
0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#4  0x2445a8ac in XtDispatchEvent(0x14600740, 0x101000000, 0x0, 0x14616388,
0x0, 0x101000000) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#5  0x243ddd7c in UnknownProcedure5FromFile82(0x145fdc00, 0xc9780de3,
0x24453fd4, 0x145fdc00, 0x2446b960, 0x0)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile82:???
#6  0x2444974c in XtCallCallbackList(0x24453e00, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x6f)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile3:???
#7  0x24453e20 in UnknownProcedure2FromFile11(0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x6f, 0x24453cc4,
0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#8  0x24453cc0 in UnknownProcedure0FromFile11(0x244543a0, 0x145fea00,
0x1426a000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#9  0x2445439c in UnknownProcedure5FromFile11(0xc00020000, 0x11ffd6e8,
0xffffffffc97804fa, 0x144bd600, 0x1, 0x1)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#10 0x244546fc in _XtDoPhase2Destroy(0x1, 0x1, 0x2445a8d8, 0x11ffd6e8, 0x1,
0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#11 0x2445a8d4 in XtDispatchEvent(0x1426e180, 0x27, 0x1426a000, 0xc00020000,
0x0, 0x14033ae0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#12 0x2446ac4c in XtAppProcessEvent(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0,
0x33253d71000df820) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile28:???
#13 0x1210f15c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#14 0x121122bc in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#15 0x120ac79c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
(ladebug) q
------------------------------------

And the first core sequence I wrote before is;
 1) open URL http://dk0193.dek.dec.com:7777 (this is fasttrack www admin svr)
 2) type User ID and passwd. (they are "admin" and "admin96")
 3) and return key.
 4) core dumped.

 -rw-------   1 root     system   7176192  3��11�� 21:42 core   

# ladebug...
Welcome to the Ladebug Debugger Version 4.0-23
------------------ 
object file name: /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape 
core file name: core
Reading symbolic information ...done
Core file produced from executable real-netscape
Thread terminated at PC 0x24564c24 by signal SEGV
(ladebug) where
>0  0x24564c24 in UnknownProcedure6FromFile354(0x1459b000, 0x142705a8,
0x24564d1c, 0x11ffc560, 0xc002a7, 0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#1  0x24564d18 in UnknownProcedure7FromFile354(0x24564d1c, 0x11ffc560,
0xc002a7, 0x1, 0x2453c1b4, 0x11ffc560) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile354:???
#2  0x2453c1b0 in /usr/shlib/libX11.so
#3  0x2445a618 in UnknownProcedure30FromFile14(0x1426a000, 0x2, 0x0, 0x2, 0x0,
0x0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#4  0x2445a8ac in XtDispatchEvent(0x145c4e40, 0x101000000, 0x0, 0x145ee488,
0x0, 0x101000000) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#5  0x243ddd7c in UnknownProcedure5FromFile82(0x24453e24, 0xc9cd447c,
0x24453e00, 0x0, 0x0, 0x8) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile82:???
#6  0x2444974c in XtCallCallbackList(0x24453e00, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2, 0x0, 0x6f)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile3:???
#7  0x24453e20 in UnknownProcedure2FromFile11(0x0, 0x2, 0x0, 0x6f, 0x24453cc4,
0x2) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#8  0x24453cc0 in UnknownProcedure0FromFile11(0x244543a0, 0x1459b000,
0x1426a000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#9  0x2445439c in UnknownProcedure5FromFile11(0x1000020000, 0x11ffc788,
0xffffffffc9cd447c, 0x144bd600, 0x1, 0x1)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#10 0x244546fc in _XtDoPhase2Destroy(0x1, 0x1, 0x2445a8d8, 0x11ffc788, 0x1,
0x1) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile11:???
#11 0x2445a8d4 in XtDispatchEvent(0x1426e180, 0x20, 0x1426a000, 0x1000020000,
0x0, 0x14033ae0) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile14:???
#12 0x2446ac4c in XtAppProcessEvent(0x101010101010101, 0x101010101010101,
0x101010101010101, 0x101010101010101, 0x101010101010101, 0x33255344000b36d0)
DebugInformationStrippedFromFile28:???
#13 0x1210f15c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#14 0x120ca03c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#15 0x120cce48 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#16 0x1220d968 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#17 0x121e7674 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#18 0x121e8fc4 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#19 0x121cd100 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#20 0x121528c8 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#21 0x2446abb4 in XtAppProcessEvent(0x1210f0d4, 0x14033ae0, 0x1424ce28,
0x1424ee70, 0x12c, 0x6c2e033255340) DebugInformationStrippedFromFile28:???
#22 0x1210f1a0 in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#23 0x121122bc in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
#24 0x120ac79c in /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
(ladebug) q
=====================================================

I hope I can use navigator with Korean without fear of core.

Regards.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS DEK



[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

DIGITAL UNIX Internationalization is supplying Seung Joo Lee with 
updated versions of Netscape and the Netscape Korean Localizations.

Seung Joo Lee will let us know if this has resolved the problem.

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    
    I am now also getting sporadic reports of Netscape 3.0 crashing now
    that my ISV is upgrading to Unix 4.0B. I have seen it myself, though
    the crashes are not always consistent.
    
    One user has told me that bringing up a Netscape Mail window and
    resizing it, he can crash it pretty consistently. In the case I saw
    crash, it crashed in a specific Web page that had frames in it.
    I looked at the core file and the only function call I could see on
    the stack was "XtPending()". I started up Netscape again and tried
    loading that same Web page and it didn't crash the second (or third)
    time.
    
    Are there any updates/patches available for Netscape 3.01 over and
    above the version that is shipped with Unix 4.0B ??
    
    Thanks,
    -Jeff D.
    

After install IOSKONETSCAPE410.tar, the core problems 
that I mentioned is resolved.

I installed one into several Unix4.0A or Unix4.0B 
machines. And some people have used Navigator 3.0 gold 
for 2 days. There are no core problems.

I've announced this module to TS and MCS in Korea today.
And I hope that you continuously support the I18N module
for the next Navigator versions like Communicator.

Thanks a lot Brian Simons of UEG/I18N and others.

Best regards

Seung-Joo Lee
TS, DEK
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

I have two another problems. 

First,
Memory fault occures in UNIX 4.0A and 4.0B Navigator 3.0 gold. 
About 1 time in an hour.
I can not reproduce it intentionally.
It semmd to has no connection with installation of IOSKONETSCAPE410.tar 
and Korean locale.

The messages are below.
======================================================
sendsig: can't grow stack, pid 24297, proc real-netscape, sig 14
Memory fault(coredump)  

-r-xr-xr-x   1 root     7192576  Mar 18 19:08 /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
-rw-------   1 root     10870784 Mar 19 14:07 core

Welcome to the Ladebug Debugger Version 4.0-23
------------------ 
object file name: /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape 
core file name: core
Reading symbolic information ...done
Core file produced from executable real-netscape
Thread terminated at PC 0x0 by signal SEGV
(ladebug) where
>0  0x0 in ???
(ladebug) quit
======================================================

Second,

About java console.
with Unix4.0B
When I pushed the Options -> Show Java Console, 
navigator displaied nothing.

I saw some articles in the Notes about Java. Someone said
Java will be no problem in UNIX4.0B. 
I did not try Java without WORLDWIDE(korean) subset. If you 
can do Java & Java console does that mean that WORLDWIDE 
effects this problem?

Seung-Joo Lee
TS DEK.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

>After install IOSKONETSCAPE410.tar, the core problems 
>that I mentioned is resolved.

Is there one for Japanese version (IOSJPNETSCAPE410) ?
I have installed IOSJPNETSCAPE410 and OSFNETSCAPE410 in my 
AlphaStation 200 4/100 runing Digital UNIX V4.0B.
When I tried to access particular site (AltaVista), the
Navigator always dies.  So far this is 100% reproducible. 

Thanks,

K. Suruga

Re:.14
>                        -< Another Core & Java problems. >-
> Second,
> 
> About java console.
> with Unix4.0B
> When I pushed the Options -> Show Java Console, 
> navigator displaied nothing.
> 
> I saw some articles in the Notes about Java. Someone said
> Java will be no problem in UNIX4.0B. 
> I did not try Java without WORLDWIDE(korean) subset. If you 
> can do Java & Java console does that mean that WORLDWIDE 
> effects this problem?

Did you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape or /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape ?
If you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape, the Java problem should not occur.

--
Toshiki Atsushiba, Digital Equimpent Corporation Japan, [email protected]

In response to the "p.s." of reply .6:
Try building the kernel in the C locale.  It should build properly.

The problem you reported in pcxal_data.c will be fixed in
the next major release of DIGITAL UNIX.

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

>Did you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape or /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape ?
>If you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape, the Java problem should not occur.
>--
>Toshiki Atsushiba

Sure. I invoked /usr/bin/X11/netscape for real-netscape.
I read all of document about real-netscape, libXt.so
LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc. I tried all of methods. But failed.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS DEK.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

>Memory fault occures in UNIX 4.0A and 4.0B Navigator 3.0 gold. 
>About 1 time in an hour.
>I can not reproduce it intentionally.
>It semmd to has no connection with installation of IOSKONETSCAPE410.tar 
>and Korean locale.
>
>The messages are below.
>======================================================
>sendsig: can't grow stack, pid 24297, proc real-netscape, sig 14
>Memory fault(coredump)  
>
>-r-xr-xr-x   1 root     7192576  Mar 18 19:08 /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape
>-rw-------   1 root     10870784 Mar 19 14:07 core

This has been an often-reported problem, although the frequency of the
core dump seems to vary widely.  The problem has been reported to 
Netscape and is regarded by them as a "must fix" for the next version.

>About java console.
>with Unix4.0B
>When I pushed the Options -> Show Java Console, 
>navigator displaied nothing.

This is definitely the Java problem that .18 mentions.  If your 
navigator binary is using /usr/lib/netscape/libXt.so instead of
the default libXt, the Java problem should not occur.  Maybe the
/usr/bin/X11/netscape script isn't working properly?  Try setting
LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/netscape and then invoking
/usr/bin/X11/real-netscape to see if that will make a difference.

By the way, this problem is also on Netscape's must fix list
for the next version of the browser.

Rich

Re:.18

> >Did you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape or /usr/bin/X11/real-netscape ?
> >If you invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape, the Java problem should not occur.
> 
> Sure. I invoked /usr/bin/X11/netscape for real-netscape.
> I read all of document about real-netscape, libXt.so
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc. I tried all of methods. But failed.

Are you using an up-to-date java_30 ?
Usually it is located on $HOME/.netscape/.
If it is a symbolic link to /usr/lib/netscape/java_30, it's OK.
But if it is an actual file, it may be too old so that
you should delete it and after that invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape,
which should create the symbolic link and Jave should work fine.

--
Toshiki Atsushiba, Digital Equimpent Corporation Japan, [email protected]

Reply 19 wrote:
>This is definitely the Java problem that .18 mentions.  If your 
>navigator binary is using /usr/lib/netscape/libXt.so instead of
>the default libXt, the Java problem should not occur.  Maybe the
>/usr/bin/X11/netscape script isn't working properly?  Try setting
>LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/netscape and then invoking
>/usr/bin/X11/real-netscape to see if that will make a difference.

I tried to invoke real-netscape with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/netscape
but It DID NOT work java console. 

Reply 20 wrote:
>Are you using an up-to-date java_30 ?
>Usually it is located on $HOME/.netscape/.
>If it is a symbolic link to /usr/lib/netscape/java_30, it's OK.
>But if it is an actual file, it may be too old so that
>you should delete it and after that invoke /usr/bin/X11/netscape,
>which should create the symbolic link and Jave should work fine

/.netscape/java_30 was linked to /usr/lib/netscape/java_30. 
And it was 723652 bytes size. It's new.

I know what all of you mean about LD_LIBRARY_PATH, libXt.so, java_30
and /usr/bin/X11/netscape script. But java does not work.
I don't know why any korean can NOT use java. I have not seen who 
can use java applet.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS, Digital Korea
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

I've installed UNIX 4.0B on my workstation.
When I just installed OS Vol.1 CD-ROM the netscape 3.0 work for 
java well. After I installed Associated Product CD-ROM's 
WORLDWIDE(Korean Locale) netscape does not work.
I did nothing except installing and rebooting.
So this is firmly BUG, I think.
And I am going to report to QAR with this situation.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS Digital Korea.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    Can you explain what you mean by Associate Product CD-ROMs Worldwide
    locale ? The base system support is all provided on the base os cds. 
    
    wendy
    

wendy wrote:
> Can you explain what you mean by Associate Product CD-ROMs Worldwide
> locale ? The base system support is all provided on the base os cds. 

Of course you, American, don't have to install i18n subset. 

There is korean locale system in the Associate Product CD-ROM.
It is in the Digital UNIX paper box filled with OS, F/W CD-ROM etc.
It's for Korean input/output, Korean font sets etc. and All systems
in Korea install it.

Anyway, the time of not working java is just after I installed
Korean Locale on my system disk.

I wrote this story to QAR. 
(http://webster.zk3.dec.com/webqar?1+osf_live+52808)
But I did not get any answer from QAR yet.

Seung-Joo Lee
TS Digital Korea
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]