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Title:DIGITAL UNIX(FORMERLY KNOWN AS DEC OSF/1)
Notice:Welcome to the Digital UNIX Conference
Moderator:SMURF::DENHAM
Created:Thu Mar 16 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:10068
Total number of notes:35879

8657.0. "V 4.0A, Fore ATM, perf prob, many errs w/ netstat" by CSC32::TRENTA () Thu Jan 30 1997 17:00

(Digital UNIX V4.0A, Fore ATM)
    
Hi,
    
    We have a customer that is experiencing a performance problem that
    they suspect to be a TCP/IP problem.  Lots of errs in netstat -i
    when looking at the FORE ATM interface and netstat -a is showing 
    lots of weird states not appearing on any of their other systems.
    
    Unfortunately, FORE ATM does not support tcpdump so we do not 
    currently have that information.  Can you tell me if you have
    any ideas as to what the problem could be?  Below is all the
    information I have to date on this problem.  If more info
    is needed, just let me know.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Debbie Trenta
    
    P.S.  I am also cross posted this in the ATM
    notes conference. 
    
    
It looks like it could be DEC's TCP/IP problem, because when this happened we
saw lot of error packets and no overflow of IP Queue. May be ss7proc
or lan_mgr might be triggering this problem like before. Lan_mgr and
lan_mgr_srv were getting enough cpu time and they were running at
higher priority than ss7proc's. Unfourtanetly we could't use
tcpdump to capature the error packets to see what they really are, because
FORE does't support tcpdump interface. There was a action item with
DEC and FORE to fix it, but apperantely it was not fixed with the
latest FORE's patch. We will follow up with it. Meanwhile we will try
to use Chamelion (protocol analyzer) to capature these packets when
it happens again.
> 
> A pattern appears to be developing at least.  Brian can correct me if I'm
> wrong, but I believe every time this has been observed in the ITN, the 
> problem came from SIS00-02.  If you look across 3 different complexes, this
> seems like just too much of a coincidence.  
> 
> So, what makes SIS00-02 so lucky?  Is it the speaker?  Probably not, since
> the speaker is usually SIS00-00.  Any other thoughts out there?
> 
> 
> > 
> > For the LAN stability problems we saw today, is this problem being tracked
> > with a DEC MR or a Protocols MR?  Please send me the MR number.  Thanks.
> > 
> > For the benefit of those on the Cc email list, in case you are interested:
> > 
> > What we saw again today was that once we "aggravated" the SD complex
> > by sending 8K msgs/sec into 1 DFS, then tried to bring up the 2nd DFS,
> > one of the SISs went bonkers in terms of its LAN.  The ss7proc's on SIS00-02
> > had very high utilization even with no traffic (e.g. 40% to 60%).
> > A netstat -a revealed lots of connections in "funny" states (other than
> > ESTABLISHED for LISTEN).  A netstat -s revealed lots of packets marked "errs"
> > on SIS00-02.  (This count was 0 on other SISs).  The lan_mgr would
> > occasionally miss heartbeats, causing us to go in and out of VOOS and
> > therefore repeatedly seeing "NSPS INIT COMPLETE" messages on the console.
> > A ping from SIS00-02 to itself would take from 1 to several hundred
> > milliseconds to complete, with some packets lost.  (The other SISs could
> > ping themselves with no packet loss, never taking more than 1 - 3 ms.)
> > 
> > A DEC problem?  A Fore problem?  Could it possibly be aggravated by
> > COMPASS or by Protocols subsystems?    Any insights  welcome.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mark



===========================================================================

 netstat -i -I fa0 5
   input    (fa0)     output            input   (Total)    output
 packets  errs  packets  errs colls   packets  errs  packets  errs colls
114598139  3860 113560929     0     0  233358633  7322 227459227    46 13111
    6222     0     7642     0     0     12479     0    15285     0     0
    6434     0     7985     0     0     12894     0    15976     0     2
    6398     0     7861     0     0     12856     0    15722     0     0
    6851     0     8701     0     0     13714     0    17403     0     2
    6851     0     8990     0     0     13747     0    17992     0     1
    6456     0     8156     0     0     12956     1    16302     0     0
    6243     0     7477     0     0     12528     0    14962     0     5
    6553     0     8074     0     0     13129     0    16148     0     0
    6640     0     8336     0     0     13333     0    16673     0     0




SIS00-02#  netstat -i -I fa0 5
   input    (fa0)     output            input   (Total)    output
 packets  errs  packets  errs colls   packets  errs  packets  errs colls
20862890 1993198 19760718     0     0  42018067 3918730 39590671     4  3231
    6558  5427    11170     0     0     12570 11435    22332     0     0
    6210  6562    10033     0     0     12541 13107    20070     0     3
    7170  3290    11558     0     0     14535 10097    23135     0     4
    6708  1869    11716     0     0     13801  9390    23458     0     2
    6829  1848    11508     0     0     13749  9230    23058     0     0
    5748  2884    11130     0     0     11932  8919    22277     0     0
    6412  3631    11167     0     0     12768  9763    22354     0     0




SIS00-02# netstat -a
Active Internet connections (including servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2746          SIS00-01.11075         SYN_SENT
tcp        0     80  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-01.1146          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.1118          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4587          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-00.1257          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.4503          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  13152  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.2736          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9264  SIS00-02.2736          SIS00-02.11225         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-00.1288          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2664          SIS00-00.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.2735          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4440          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         DFS00-01.4928          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.4907          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11142         DFS00-01.4904          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-01.4885          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-04.1550          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-00.1078          TIME_WAIT
tcp        0    488  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-00.1314          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2405          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-03.2854          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0     80  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.1143          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.2383          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   8688  SIS00-02.2708          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         DFS00-01.4908          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11375         SIS00-05.1315          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    488  SIS00-02.11150         DFS00-00.1317          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1952  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-05.4625          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  13296  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2719          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2719          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11142         DFS00-01.1132          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-03.2814          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4519          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4348          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  13088  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.1727          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1727          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4640          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2756          SIS00-00.11300         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.writesrv      ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11142         DFS00-01.1125          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2358          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    960  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2648          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9264  SIS00-02.2648          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-05.4522          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.2656          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.3880          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0     80  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2870          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  12288  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.2849          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4469          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  19808  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2456          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4373          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.1423          SIS00-00.11150         FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.2026          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  18944  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2957          LAST_ACK
tcp        0  12144  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2418          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  12288  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.2761          ESTABLISHED
tcp       80   3344  SIS00-02.2761          SIS00-02.11225         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2753          SIS00-00.11075         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2742          SIS00-00.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0  12864  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2740          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2740          SIS00-02.11150         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-00.1295          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  18832  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.1801          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   2136  SIS00-02.1801          SIS00-02.11225         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.2299          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.1499          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2852          SYN_RCVD
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2747          SIS00-01.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0  13008  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2693          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11217         DFS00-00.1277          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2596          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0    488  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.4970          LAST_ACK
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         DFS00-01.4905          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.1893          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1893          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  20928  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.1413          CLOSING
tcp        0   3344  SIS00-02.1413          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.4773          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.4773          SIS00-02.11075         CLOSING
tcp        0   7864  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4633          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2749          SIS00-01.11075         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4600          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-01.1131          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.1649          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1649          SIS00-02.11150         CLOSING
tcp        0  11304  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.1425          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  17528  SIS00-02.1425          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  19024  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2684          CLOSING
tcp        0   2008  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2843          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2738          SYN_RCVD
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2738          SIS00-02.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4559          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.2790          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.1543          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1543          SIS00-02.11225         CLOSING
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.1235          SIS00-00.11375         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11217         DFS00-00.1320          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11292         DFS00-01.1148          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-04.2392          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2543          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.1840          SYN_RCVD
tcp        0   2144  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2850          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2616  SIS00-02.11217         DFS00-01.1147          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2851          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   4016  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4608          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2819          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   1256  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.2369          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         DFS00-01.1097          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2690          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2659          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.4772          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.4772          SIS00-02.11075         CLOSING
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2769          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2704          SIS00-00.11300         FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-00.1279          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11142         DFS00-00.1266          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11375         SIS00-03.2754          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4299          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2148          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2148          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2978          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2178          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2189          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.2399          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2754          SIS00-02.11075         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2745          SIS00-00.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.2859          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11217         DFS00-01.4889          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.1791          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.2676          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.3691          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11375         SIS00-03.4469          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.2412          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  17100  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2734          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   5528  SIS00-02.2734          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.2712          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2712          SIS00-02.11225         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-01.1117          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.4523          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.2316          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.2605          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1829          SIS00-00.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-05.3659          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.3096          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.3096          SIS00-02.11225         CLOSING
tcp        0  18616  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4645          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2752          SIS00-00.11150         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2731          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    160  SIS00-02.11225         DFS00-01.1144          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2396          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-05.4560          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.2215          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4379          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-01.4906          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.1705          SYN_RCVD
tcp        0  18432  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-03.1192          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.4030          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4891          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2775          SIS00-00.11300         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2743          SIS00-00.11300         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2345          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  13264  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2134          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.2546          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  17784  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-03.2876          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2751          SIS00-00.11225         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2741          SIS00-00.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  18640  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2739          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2739          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         DFS00-01.1133          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-05.4485          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0  20412  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2547          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   3064  SIS00-02.2547          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  18912  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-04.1873          LAST_ACK
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.1448          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1448          SIS00-02.11150         CLOSING
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.3696          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp       80      0  SIS00-02.11292         DFS00-01.1152          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1736  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4624          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-03.2886          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2762          SIS00-00.11075         SYN_SENT
tcp        0     80  SIS00-02.11217         DFS00-01.1151          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2750          SIS00-01.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0  18992  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.2632          LAST_ACK
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2632          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-04.2320          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-00.1258          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4420          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11375         SIS00-04.4986          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.4648          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.4648          SIS00-02.11075         CLOSING
tcp        0  13408  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.4157          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.3624          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.3624          SIS00-02.11075         CLOSING
tcp        0  11316  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.3357          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  11592  SIS00-02.3357          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2764          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2764          SIS00-02.11150         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    240  SIS00-02.11292         DFS00-00.1316          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   3344  SIS00-02.2755          SIS00-00.11225         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-03.2795          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-04.2196          SYN_RCVD
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-01.4888          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.1592          SIS00-00.11300         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp     6440      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2436          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2760          SIS00-00.11150         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-03.2853          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-05.4632          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2748          SIS00-01.11225         SYN_SENT
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2372          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11367         DFS00-00.1299          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0   2456  SIS00-02.11142         DFS00-01.1107          LAST_ACK
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11300         SIS00-05.4557          FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11225         SIS00-02.2651          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   9344  SIS00-02.2651          SIS00-02.11225         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  21624  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-02.2246          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0   1672  SIS00-02.2246          SIS00-02.11150         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.2173          SIS00-00.11225         FIN_WAIT_2
tcp        0  11004  SIS00-02.11075         SIS00-02.4753          FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0  14832  SIS00-02.4753          SIS00-02.11075         FIN_WAIT_1
tcp        0      0  sd9866.login           sd9859.1023            ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-02.11150         SIS00-04.2408          FIN_WAIT_1
???
udp        0      0  *.702                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.873                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11145                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11295                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11220                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11370                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.899                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.636                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.862                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.864                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1055          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1054          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.snmp          *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11445                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1053                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.7777                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1019                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.640                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1020                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.604                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1022                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1018                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1021                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.847                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.943                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.869                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.669                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.177                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.996                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1023                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.846                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1002                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1035          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1034          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1033          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1032          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1031          *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1035         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1034         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1033         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1032         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1031         *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1035        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1034        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1033        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1032        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1031        *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1035           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1034           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1033           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1032           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1031           *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1035        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1034        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1033        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1032        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1031        *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1035            *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1034            *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1033            *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1032            *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1031            *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1035        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1034        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1033        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1032        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1031        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02.1030          *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1030         *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_2.1030        *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866A.1030           *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_3.1030        *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9866.1030            *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-02_1.1030        *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.2049                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1029                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.836                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.829                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1028                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.*                    *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1027                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1026                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.111                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1025                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.echo                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.time                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.ntalk                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.biff                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.*                    *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.syslog               *.*                   




==================================
SIS00-00# ping SIS00-00
PING SIS00-00 (192.168.0.5): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=1 ms


----SIS00-00 PING Statistics----
21 packets transmitted, 21 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 1/2/6 ms
SIS00-00# netstat -a
Active Internet connections (including servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
tcp        0   2056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-02.2088          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-02.2055          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-02.2090          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11217         DFS00-00.2968          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-03.1785          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11150         DFS00-00.2824          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11142         DFS00-00.2960          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-05.4767          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2272  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-05.4766          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-05.4801          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11375         SIS00-02.4620          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         DFS00-00.2845          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-04.4853          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-05.4803          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11142         DFS00-01.1129          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11367         DFS00-01.1128          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         DFS00-01.1100          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-03.1746          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1968  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-05.4795          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11292         DFS00-01.1130          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-04.4827          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-02.2091          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-03.1769          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-05.4744          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1416  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-00.2829          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.2829          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-03.1732          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    216  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-05.4769          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-04.4856          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         DFS00-01.1783          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-04.4859          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-05.4768          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-00.2832          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.2832          SIS00-00.11150         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-02.2087          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-02.2044          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-02.2023          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-03.1766          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-03.1734          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-04.4848          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1416  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-00.2824          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.2824          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   2056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-02.2084          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-03.1763          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-05.4779          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-04.4802          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-03.1782          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-05.4777          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-05.4745          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-00.2830          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.2830          SIS00-00.11150         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-04.4852          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-04.4831          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-03.1783          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-05.4746          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-00.2831          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.2831          SIS00-00.11225         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-04.4822          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11375         SIS00-05.4628          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-02.2085          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-02.2053          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11075         DFS00-00.2838          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11217         DFS00-01.supfiled      ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    216  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-03.1735          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-04.4892          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1056  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-00.2827          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.2827          SIS00-00.11075         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-02.2086          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-02.2022          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-03.1765          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-03.1733          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-04.3151          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-04.3150          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-05.4781          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-04.4857          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  sd9865.login           sd98132.1014           ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-02.2089          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-03.1747          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0   1936  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-05.4775          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11225         DFS00-01.1145          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         SIS00-05.4798          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11375         SIS00-03.2719          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-02.2054          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-04.4794          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11375         SIS00-04.1870          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11150         DFS00-01.1615          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-02.2094          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11292         DFS00-00.2972          ESTABLISHED
tcp       80      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-03.1784          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-05.4747          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         SIS00-04.4855          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  sd9865.login           sd98132.1012           ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1265          AS00-00.11320          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0     80  SIS00-00.11300         SIS00-03.1748          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1263          AS00-00.11310          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-02.2030          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11225         DFS00-00.2974          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-04.3148          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  sd9865.login           sd9803.1012            ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11367         DFS00-00.2964          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    216  SIS00-00.11075         SIS00-03.1745          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    860  sd9865.login           sd9803.1016            ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  *.11293                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11292                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11218                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11217                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11143                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11142                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11368                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11367                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11150                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11225                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11300                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11075                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11321         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11320         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11311         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.11310         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.11375                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.1033                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.printer              *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.smtp                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1032          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1031          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1030          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1029          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1028          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1032         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1031         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1030         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1029         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1028         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1032        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1031        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1030        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1029        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1028        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1032           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1031           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1030           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1029           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1028           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1032        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1031        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1030        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1029        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1028        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1032            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1031            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1030            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1029            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1028            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1032        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1031        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1030        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1029        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1028        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00.1027          *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  localhost.1027         *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1027        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865A.1027           *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1027        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  sd9865.1027            *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  SIS00-00_1.1027        *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.2049                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.844                  *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.*                    *.*                    CLOSED
tcp        0      0  *.827                  *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.netstat              *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.systat               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.1024                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.dtspc                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.111                  *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.cfgmgr               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.kdebug               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.echo                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.finger               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.exec                 *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.login                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.shell                *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.telnet               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp        0      0  *.ftp                  *.*                    LISTEN
udp        0      0  *.728                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.657                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11145                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11370                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11220                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11295                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1018                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.805                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.781                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1138          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1137          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.snmp          *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.11445                *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1136                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.7777                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1019                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.918                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1020                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.885                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1022                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1021                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.898                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.780                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.994                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.177                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.892                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1023                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.846                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.845                  *.*                   
udp        0      0  *.1002                 *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1035          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1034          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1033          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1032          *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00.1031          *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1035         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1034         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1033         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1032         *.*                   
udp        0      0  localhost.1031         *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1035        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1034        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1033        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1032        *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_2.1031        *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9865A.1035           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9865A.1034           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9865A.1033           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9865A.1032           *.*                   
udp        0      0  sd9865A.1031           *.*                   
udp        0      0  SIS00-00_3.1035        *.*                   
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8657.1netstat -isSMURF::DUSTINMon Feb 03 1997 16:386
    You need the "netstat -is" output to see the interface stats,
    to tell what all those input errors are caused by...  Otherwise
    we can only guess.
    
    John