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Conference turris::digital_unix

Title:DIGITAL UNIX(FORMERLY KNOWN AS DEC OSF/1)
Notice:Welcome to the Digital UNIX Conference
Moderator:SMURF::DENHAM
Created:Thu Mar 16 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:10068
Total number of notes:35879

4261.0. "sar part of DIGITAL UNIX?" by GRANPA::CHO () Mon Feb 05 1996 14:57

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4261.1Part of SVEJULIET::SHOMO_ROMon Feb 05 1996 15:203
4261.2Can we get JUST sar??DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Wed Feb 19 1997 19:579
    Is it possible to get JUST the sar utility from the SVE subset? My
    customer does NOT want to run in an SVE environment, but they DO want
    sar. They have sar on their HP systems, and they want a common utility
    for measuring their batch jobs. Is this possible???
    
    Thanks,
    
    /jim
    
4261.3You must install SVE to get sarUNXA::KOPYThu Feb 20 1997 09:4317
>    Is it possible to get JUST the sar utility from the SVE subset? My
>    customer does NOT want to run in an SVE environment, but they DO want
>    sar. They have sar on their HP systems, and they want a common utility
>    for measuring their batch jobs. Is this possible???

I'm afraid there is no easy way to install just sar.  Keep in mind that sar
involves more than just the sar command, there are a number of related utilities
that sample, save and process performance data.  So the only way to be certain
to get sar and its utilities properly installed and configured is to install
the System V Environment (SVE).

But the good news is that it is not necessary for the users to work in an SVE
environment if they choose not to.  Once SVE is installed it becomes an 
optional environment, the standard Digital UNIX environment is still there.
A user can choose which enviroment to work in via the .profile.

- Walt
4261.4How do we do this?DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Fri Feb 21 1997 07:0312
    re: .3
    
    Interesting. I was always of the belief that once SVE was installed,
    the entire system became a native SVE system.
    
    If we do install the SVE sets, what do we have to do in the .profile to
    run the the "original" environment (non SVE)?
    
    Thanks,
    
    /jim
    
4261.5source /etc/svr4_profileUNXA::KOPYFri Feb 21 1997 09:0234
    
>    Interesting. I was always of the belief that once SVE was installed,
>    the entire system became a native SVE system.
 
I think that's a common misconception.
   
>    If we do install the SVE sets, what do we have to do in the .profile to
>    run the the "original" environment (non SVE)?

Actually nothing.  After installing SVE the install script will ask which
users should be setup for a System V Environment.  For any user you choose
the .profile has the following lines added:

   if [ -f /etc/svr4_profile ]
   then   
        . /etc/svr4_profile
   fi

That's it.  To "turn on" svr4 you simply source /etc/svr4_profile which
essentially sets the PATH to point to SVE commands instead of DU commands
and sets the CMD_ENV=svr4.

If you want to have a user continue to work in the DU environment you just
leave the .profile or .login alone.

You can also source /etc/svr4_profile (or /etc/svr4_login for csh) manually
if you choose.

The key thing is that SVE and DU environments co-exist.  Each user can choose
the prefered environment.

Hope this explanation helps.

-Walt
4261.6Thanks, and finally..DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Sat Feb 22 1997 10:295
    THANKS! That helps. Now, I assume that in order to even install the SVE
    subset, I need the license, right?
    
    /jim
    
4261.7SMURF::DENHAMDigital UNIX KernelMon Feb 24 1997 09:431
    Right.