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2615.1 | Some answers | IOSG::STANDAGE | My hovercraft is full of eels | Thu Apr 10 1997 10:48 | 68 |
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Ana,
Lots of things to talk about here...
>>a) option MFC then Manage Partitions and there was not partition
>>d>efined. The field Partition as only ::
>> If I try to edit this partition I get an error
>> Part$Maint:#OAFC_Partition.%Open[#OAFC_Partition]" not found
The Manage Partitions subsystem you shouldn't need to be going to, it's
only useful if you're running DNS naming (I've yet to find anyone that
is after 7 years...)
>>b) I am able to start the sender but I am not able to start the
>>fetcher.
>>I also noticed that sys$node was not defined.
This last comment is probably the major problem. ALL-IN-1 and many
other products rely on the existence of the SYS$NODE, otherwise you
will end up with problems similar to that which you describe.
>>My questions are:
>>1) Is this in fact a DECnet OSI (bad config.) problem ?
Not exactly, DECnet OSI doesn't require SYS$NODE but as I said, a lot
of digital products use it, I sure GAP could reply with all the gory
historical details if necessary :-)
>>2) Is it enough to do a $define sys$node sota1/exec ?
No!
The logical must be in the form NODE::
Once this is defined I suggest you recreate all your servers (AIDA,
FCS, Sender and fetchers) - although I don't know if you actually
have anything in your partition datafile. You might need to reinstall
the product, and even then the update installation will probably not
put things to right (it might need a fresh/new installation). Try
creating the srevers first,and we'll take it from there...
>>3) What could possible be the problem ? I am able to set h to other Vax
>>systems on the network.
>>There is a recurring message from OPCOM saying:
>>Event: too few servers Detected from: node DTSS
>>N� Detected 0
>>N� Required 1
DTSS is the Distributed Time Service Synchronizer, it's part of DECNet
OSI and is the mechanism by which all your systems consolidate their
system clocks so they're consistant and 'correct'. This isn't part of
ALL-IN-1, so you'll need to look into the OSI documentation for more on
this...
-Kevin.
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2615.2 | About the dtss | VELI::KORKKO | Veli K�rkk� @FNO, 879-5512 | Thu Apr 10 1997 20:09 | 18 |
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About the DTSS. Maybe there are not any DECdtss servers in that
LAN. If this is the case, you can either easily configure your
system to supply the time or maybe the easiest thing to is just
to block the event completely, like
$ mc ncl block event dispatcher * global filter -
((Node, Dtss), Too Few Servers Detected)
Of course effect of this command would disappear at next reboot
so he proper (permanent) procedre would be
1) copy sys$manager:net$event_local.template to 'same'.ncl
2) then edit that file to contain mentioned "block ..."
3) execute the file $mc ncl @sys$manager:net$event_local.ncl
_veli
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2615.3 | about SYS$NODE | VELI::KORKKO | Veli K�rkk� @FNO, 879-5512 | Thu Apr 10 1997 20:16 | 24 |
| Further, about the SYS$NODE as well as SYS$NODE_FULLNAME
The proper way to fix these is to execute
$ @sys$manager:net$configure advanced
and choose option 2, i.e. "Change namespace/naming information"
(or something like that...). Go through the stuff and voila,
SYS$NODE as well as SYS$NODE_FULLNAME are defined properly.
After this is done, check whether there exists (right now!, but
not after next reboot) a file
SYS$MANAGER:NET$STARTUP_RENAME.COM.
Check that file and if this file appears to rename your node
back to something like empty name, just delete this file (before
rebooting).
Like .1 said, proper value of SYS$NODE is VERY ESSENTIAL to many
products. Two phase commit protocol (TP_SERVER), LAT, Infoserver
Client are few which fail to start if SYS$NODE is not defined
properly.
_veli
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2615.4 | Lack of SYS$NODE is a symtom of a bigger problem | TAY2P1::HOWARD | Whoever it takes | Thu Apr 10 1997 22:10 | 16 |
| > After this is done, check whether there exists (right now!, but
> not after next reboot) a file
> SYS$MANAGER:NET$STARTUP_RENAME.COM.
I think it's best to check this file whenever you find it. I found
that EWS$DEFINE_NODE creates one of these files to rename your server
to the name of the latest EWS node you added! The problem is that you
don't look for the file, and it only gets executed when you restart
DECnet (or maybe only when you reboot). Its syntax is fairly obvious
to look at, so if it isn't doing what you want, delete it. Getting the
node back to its correct name is a pain.
Note also that many procedures check the existence of SYS$NODE to see
if DECnet is up. So don't define it unitl DECnet is up.
Ben
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