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Conference iosg::all-in-1

Title:ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Please spell ALL-IN-1 correctly - all CAPITALS!
Moderator:IOSG::PYECE
Created:Fri Jul 01 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2716
Total number of notes:12169

2512.0. "Qualified children. Eh?" by GIDDAY::JOYCE (Andy Joyce - Digital CSC Sydney) Fri Feb 07 1997 09:51

    
    ALL-IN-1 V3.2
    
    Does anyone have any idea what the following error message is all
    about?
    
    "No more qualified children of this card"
    
    This message appeared today as a couple of ALL-IN-1 users finished a 
    WPS-PLUS edit session.  As far as we can tell all changes were saved
    and no other problems have been reported.
    
    We have not seen this message before but, maybe significantly, last
    night we had to restore the entire ALL-IN-1 system (all disks) from
    backup due to a disk hardware failure.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Andy 
    CSC Sydney
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2512.1File Cab ErrorNETRIX::"Karl [email protected]"Karl StrongFri Feb 07 1997 10:4210
Check your file cabinets.  Does it keep happening ?

55804336 OafcNoMoreChildren

Its a FCS Error Code.  I'm guessing, but was your restore from a backup that
was taken while the File Cab was running ?

Regards,
Karl.
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2512.2GIDDAY::JOYCEAndy Joyce - Digital CSC SydneyFri Feb 07 1997 11:4515
    
    re .-1
    
    >I'm guessing, but was your restore from a backup thatwas taken while
    >the File Cab was running ?
    
    	Very likely.  With the full backup taking over 8 hours the customer
    	refuses to shutdown ALL-IN-1 while it is happening (it's a 24x7
    	organisation).
    
    	So, what does this error actually mean?
    
    Andy
    CSC Sydney
2512.3Doesn't help, but....IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Feb 07 1997 12:316
    You don't really want to know this, but - the file cab server has a
    generic, implementation independent view of the file store and it
    defines an internal interface to the actual store. This interface is
    called the "card storage interface", and refers to individual entries
    as cards. The generic hierarchy is defined in terms of parents and
    children.
2512.4GIDDAY::JOYCEAndy Joyce - Digital CSC SydneySun Feb 09 1997 23:1112
    
    re .-1
    
    Hmmm.  What puzzles me is why the FCS is getting involved when a 
    character-cell user is editing a WPS+ doc.  I suppose, if the doc is 
    in a non-MAIN drawer, the error could be at the point that it is being
    replaced (and unreserved)?  
    
    Andy
2512.5IOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSG, Reading, EnglandMon Feb 10 1997 09:426
    That's right. Reserve and unreserve are the two operations that IOS
    doesn't have code for, so it has to use FCS. However if it has a
    problem with FCS then it normally goes ahead with the edit anyway, as
    .0 found.
    
    Dick
2512.6GIDDAY::JOYCEAndy Joyce - Digital CSC SydneyMon Feb 10 1997 21:559
    
    re .-1
    
    Okay... so I guess the next question is... what do I do about these
    errors or do I forget about them as they seem to be self-repairing?
    
    Thanks,
    Andy
2512.7hello?GIDDAY::JOYCEAndy Joyce - Digital CSC SydneyThu Feb 20 1997 04:486
    
    Obviously I forget about them.... 8-)
    
    Thanks,
    Andy