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2143.1 | | WMOIS::CONNELL | No one noticed the cat. | Tue May 20 1997 10:02 | 21 |
| Yes, you will probably have to smoke on the porch from now on. Better
yet, try very, very, VERY hard to quit. Maybe Gram is sending a
message. My Grandfather watched over me for years after he had passed
over.
Talk to her. Tell her she is loved and remembered and will always be
loved and remembered, but she should move on to the next phase of
existence, whatever you or she believed it to be. That may not be the
reality, but it's OK she'll get it right. Ask her if there is a reason
that she's staying behind and to have her help you discover what it is
and to get it resolved.
I don't wish to frighten, but if things start getting worse, then you
probably need a professional to come in and "cleanse" the house or
bless it, if that is your desire. Just go into this with Perfect Love
in your heart and soul and things should work out. Love really is the
key.
Bright Blessings,
PJ
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2143.2 | | WMOIS::CONNELL | No one noticed the cat. | Tue May 20 1997 10:13 | 11 |
| Oh yes, one other thing. Please don't think of it as discipline, as in
your title. That is not the way to go into this. It can be most
dangerous. Discipline requires control, usually through force or
cajoling or even punishment and while that may work on small children
or military recruits, it ain't gonna work on a ghost and could let you
in for more then you bargained for. So as in my last reply, only Love
will work here. Provided it is indeed your Grandmother's spirit.
Bright Blessings,
PJ
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2143.3 | my two cents | BGSDEV::RAMSAY | | Tue May 20 1997 10:35 | 14 |
| Hi, Tree. Hi, PJ. Tree, my suggestion is that you ask your
grandmother or whoever it is to simply please leave you alone and leave
your space (your apartment). You can also say an affirmation such as
"I AM divinely guided and protected" if you like whenever you feel a
presence. That's what we did with the ghosts that were supposed to be
living in our current apartment that we moved into about 6 weeks ago (I
wrote about it elsewhere in this file) and neither my husband nor I have
been bothered at all. Our landlady downstairs, however, says "her"
(first floor) ghost is still there as well as the second-floor ghost
(we live upstairs) making an appearance every now and then. She
doesn't mind the ghosts.
*Stella* (a smoker who smokes in her own space)
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2143.4 | DONT trap me on the dresser!!! | FABSIX::TR_TAYLOR | | Tue May 20 1997 22:20 | 28 |
| Thank you all for the advice. She was good last night and didn't mess
with the stove we also only smoked on the porch. I like that she is
there, and yes I am sure it is my grandmother I can almost see her face,
She and I always had gotten along and when she died, I was a hair dresser
and she asked me to do her hair once she had died.So I did I trust in her
and know she wouldn't do anything to bring harm to myself or my son(whom
she never got to see I was 6 months pregnant with him when she died he
was her 1st Great grandchild) The funny thing is ,and I had forgotten
about this, that my cousin had lived in this apt for the last 4 years
and never really had a problem, my mother told me on Easter that she
had my grandparents earn(sp) dug up and moved. My mother wasn't happy
with the placement of the earn when they finally buried them and
therefore had it relocated on the same plot. Finally Buried them? my
grandmother died in 1990, and my grandfather "kept" her in his room, in
the earn of course. They never went any where with out each other and it
was bad enough, in her eyes, that she was going to have to "leave" him
"behind" so it was her insistence that she not be buried until he had
passed and they could be buried together. He would take the earn with him
to the beach and on day trips. When he finally died in 1993 he was put
into the earn with my grandmother and the earn was taken to mothers
house where they "sat" until the fall of 1995. My mother and her
sisters finally had them buried and then mom had them "reburied" I
wonder if this has anything to do with it all I mean no problems until
I move in??? O-well I know this much if I gotta smoke on the porch I
will and when it gets cold Im sure I will be cutting down....
Tree
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2143.5 | | BGSDEV::RAMSAY | | Wed May 21 1997 11:39 | 5 |
| Tree, I love the story about the urn. How wonderful! What a nice idea
to be buried together, and your grandfather taking the urn with him on
outings.
*Stella*
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2143.6 | | CSC32::M_EVANS | be the village | Tue May 27 1997 17:30 | 21 |
| Goodness!
sounds like my family. We found black-gram's Frank's urn buried in her
closet after she had moved off this planet. My white gram and my dad
are currently parked at mom's house, until she lets me scatter them in
their preferred locations or she starts body-shopping and I spend three
days scattering ashes around the state. (Dad and WG want to be on
opposite sides of the peak, and mom at the headwaters of the Rio
Grande. since she is physically ioncapable of getting up on the parts
of the peak dad and her mom want to be on, and she insists on being
there.... the only way I will manage it is with her in an urn.
We have my grandmothers chest of drawers and desk in our room. My
Frank doesn't mind clothes in the chest of drawers, but after having
had checks and other things "disappear" for hours after being left in my
desk, he has his own space to put his stuff in. BG's sense of humor
about money isn't one he handles well.
You may want to talk to your gram and see what she really wants.
meg
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