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| Title: | Psychic Phenomena |
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1961.0. "Psychic Powers - Why and whereto?" by SHIPS::MANGAN_S () Mon Jun 13 1994 11:53
The following is an article written by a tibetan teacher, DJWHAL KHUL. I
have included it in this conference as I believe that it gives a very
informed overview of the status, influences and difficulties of the
growth in lower psychism in the world today.
.. a subject close to many, but understood by few.
To some the article may appear fanciful/abstract, but it made an
impression on myself as my approach into the Esoteric field was by way
of Psychic development. This article puts that approach firmly into
it's rightful place.
regards
Steve
Esoteric Training in a Transitional Period.
One of the results of the world condition at this time is the speeding
up of all the atomic lives upon and within the planet. This necessarily
involves the increased vibratory activity of the human mechanism, with
a consequent effect upon the psychic awareness. It would be of value
here to remember thatthe condition of humanity at this time is not the
result of simply one factor, but of several - all of them being active
simultaneously, because this period marks theclose of one age and the
inauguration of the new.
The factors to which I refer are, primarily, three in number:
1. This is a transition period between the passing out of the Piscean
Age, with it's enphasis upon authority and belief,and the incomming of
the Aquarian Age, with it's emphasis upon individual understanding and
direct knowledge. The activity of these forces, charactoristic of the
two signs, produces in the atoms of the human body a corresponding
activity. We are on the verge of new knowledges and the atoms of the
body are being tuned up for reception. Those atoms which are
predominantly Piscean are beginning to slow down their activity and to
be "occultly withdrawn", as it is called, or abstracted, whilst those
which are responsive to the New Age tendencies are, in their turn,
being stimulated and their vibratory activity increased.
2. The world war marked a climax in the history of mankind, and it's
subjective effect was far more potent than has hitherto been grasped.
Through the power of prolonged sound, carried forward as a great
experiment on the battlefields all over the world during a period of
four years (1914-1918) and through the the intense emotionalstrain of
the entire planetary populace, the web of etheric matter (called the
"viel of the temple") which separates the physical and astral planes
was rent or torn asunder, and the amazing process of unifying the two
worlds of physical living and of astral plane experience was begun and
is slowly going on. It will be obvious, therefore that this must bring
about vast changes and alterations inthe human consciousness. Whilst it
willusher inthe age of understanding, of brotherhood and of
illumination,it will also bring about states of reaction and the leting
loose of pyshic forces which today menace the uncontroller and
ignorant,and warent the sounding of a note of warning and of caution.
3. A third factor is as follows: It has been known for a long time by
the mystics of all the world religeons and by estoeric students
everywhere, that certain members of the planetary Hierarchy are
approaching closer to the earth at this time. By this I want you to
infer that the thought,or the mental attention,of the Christ and of
certain of his great disciples,or the Masters of the Wisdom, is
directed or focussed at this time on human affairs, and that some of
them are also preparing to break their long silence and may appear
again among men. This necessarily has a potent effect, first of all
upon their disciples and on those who are attuned to and synchronized
with their minds, and secondly, it should be remembered that the energy
which flows through these focalpoints of the Divine Will will have a
dual effect and be destructive as well as constructive, according to
the quality of the bodies which react to it. Different types of men
respond distinctively to an inflow of energy, and a tremendous psychic
stimulation is at this time going on, with results both divinely
beneficient and sadely destructive.
It might be added also that certain astrological relationships between
the constellations are releasing new types of force which are playing
through the solar system and on to our planet and thereby making
possible developments hitherto frustrated in expression, and bring
about the demonstration of latent powers and the manisfestation of new
knowledges. All this must be carefully borne in mind by the worker
inthe field of human affairs if the present crisis is to be rightly
appreciated and it's splendid opportunities rightly emplyed. I have
felt it wise to write a few words concerning the condition to be found
in the world today especially in connection with esoteric, occult and
mystical groups and the spiritualistic movement.
All true spiritual thinkers and workers are much concerned at this time
about the growth of crime on every hand, by the display of the lower
psychic powers, by the apparent deterioration of the physical body, as
shown inthe spread of disease, and by the extraordinary increase in
insanity, neurotic condition and mental unbalance. All this is the
result of the tearing of the planetary web, and at the same time it is
part of the evolutionary plan and the providing of the opportunity
whereby humanity must take it's next step forward. The Hierarchy of
Adepts has been divided in opinion (if so suitable a word can be
applied to a group of souls and brothers who know no sense of
separateness, but only differ over problems of "skill in action") over
the present world condition. Some believe it to be premature and
consequently undesirable and providing a difficult situation, whilst
others take the stand upon the basic soundness of humanity and regard
the present crisis as inevitable and brought about by the developments
inman himself; They look upon the condition as educational and as
constituting only a temporary problem which - as it is solved - will
lead mankind on the way to a still more glorious future. But there is
at the same time no denying the fact that great and frequently
devastating forces have been let loose upon the earth, and that the
effect is of grave concern to all the Masters, Their disciples
and workers.
The difficulty can,inthe main, be traced to overstimulation and the
undue strain placed upon the mechanism of the bodies, which the world
of souls (in physical incarnation) have to employ as they seek to
manifest on the physical plane and so respond to their environment. The
flow of energy, pouring through from the Astral plane and (in a lesser
degree) from the lower mental plane, is brought into contact with
bodies that are unresponsive at first and over-responsive later; it
pours into brain cells which, from lack of use, are unaccustomed to the
powerful rhythm imposed upon them; and humanity's equipment of
knowledge is so poor that the majority have not sense enough to procedd
with caution and to porgress slowly. Therefore they are soon in danger
and difficulty; their natures are oft so impure or so selfish that the
new powers which are beginning to make their capabilities felt, and so
opening up new avenues of awareness and contact, are subordinated to
purely selfish ends and prostituted to mundane objectives. The glimpses
vouchsafed to theman of that which lies behind the viel are
misinterpreted and theinformation is misued and distorted by wrong
motives. But whether a person is unintentionally a victim of force or
brings himself in touch with it deliberately, he pays the price of his
ignorance or temerity inthe physical body, even though hi soul "may go
marching on".
It is of no use at this time to close one's eyes to the immediate
problem or to endevour to lay the blame for the sad failures, the
occult wrecks, for the half-demented psychics, the hallucinated mystics
and the feeble minded dabblers in esotericism at the door of their own
stupidity, or upon the backs of some teachers, groups or organisations.
Much blame can indeed be placed here and there, but it is part of
wisdom to face facts and to relaise the cause of that which is
everywhere transpiring and which canbe stated as follows.
The cause of the growth of the lower psychism and of the increasing
sensitivity of huanity at this time is the sudden influx of a new form
of astral energy through the rent veil which has, until a short while ago
safeguarded the many. Add to this the inadequacy of the mass of human
vehicles to meet the newly imposed strain and some idea of the problem
can be grasped.
Let it not be forgotten, however, thjat there is another side to the
picture. The inflow of this energy has brought hundreds of people into
a new and deeper spritual realisation; it has opened a door through
which many will pass before long and take their second initiation, and
it has lett a flood of light into the world - a light which will go on
increasing for the next thirty years, bringing assurance of immortality
and a fresh revelation of the divine potencies inthe human being. Thus
is the New Age dawning. Access to levels of inspiration, hitherto
untouched can be facilitated. The stimulation of the higher facilities
(and this on a large scale) is now possible, and the co-ordination of
the personality with the soul and the right use of energy can go
forward with renewed understanding and enterprise. Ever the race is
strong, and always the many are called and the few are chosen. This is
the occult law.
We are now in a period of tremendous spiritual potency and of
oppoertnity to all upon the probationary path and the path of
discipleship. It is the hour wherein a clarion call goes forth to man
to be of good cheer and of goodwill, for deliverance is on the way. But
it is also the hour of danger and of menace for the unwary and the
unready, for the ambitious, th ignorant, and for thoe who selfishly
seek the Way and who refuse to tread the path of service with pure
motives. Lest this widespread upheaval and consequent disaster to
somany should seem to you unfair, let me remind you that this one life
is but a second of time in the larger and wider existance of the soul,
and that those who fail and are disrupted by the impact of the powerful
forces now flooding our earth will nevertheless have their vibration
"stepped up" to better things along with the mass of those who achieve,
even if their physical vehicles are destroyed in the process. The
destruction of the physical body is not the worst disaster that can
overcome a man.
It is not my purpose to cover the whole ground possible in relation to
the situation inthe field of psychism caused by an influx of astral
energy at this time. I seek to confine myself to the effect of this
inflow on aspirants and sensitives. These two words - aspirants and
sensitives - are employed by me in this article to distinguish between
the awakened seeker after control and mastery, from the lower type of
psychic, who is controlled and mastered. It is necessary to remind you
that psychism, so called,can be divided into the following two groups:
Higher Psychism Lower Psychism
Divine Animal
Controlled Uncontrolled
Positive Negative
Intelligently applied Automatic
Mediatorship Mediumship
These distinctions are little understood, nor is the fact appreciated
that both groups of qualities indicate our divinity. All are
expressions of God.
There are certain psychic powers which men share in common with
animals; these powers are inherent in the animal body and are
instinctual, but they have, for the vast majority, dropped below the
threshold of consciousness and are unrealised and therefore useless.
These are the powers, for instance, of astral clairvoyance and
clairaudience, and the seeing of colours and smilar phenomena.
Clairvoyance and cliaraudince are also possible onmental levels, and
we then call it telepathy; and the seeing of symbols, for all visioning
of geometrical symbols, s mental clairvoyance. All these powers are
however, tied up with the human mechanism or responce apparatus, and
serve to put th man in touch with aspects of the phenominal world for
which the responce mechanism, which we call the personality, exists.
They are the product of the divine soul in man, which takes the form of
"the animal soul" which really corresponds to the Holy Ghost aspect in
the human microcosmic trinity. All these powers have their higher
spiritual correspondences, which manifest when the soul becomes
consciously active and controls its mechanism through mind and the
brain. Whenastral clairvoyance and clairaudience are NOT below the
threshold of consciousness, but are actively used and functioing, it
means that the solar plexus centre is open and active. When the
corresponding mental faculties are present in consciousness, then it
means the throat centre and the centre between the eyebrows are
becomming "awake" and active. But the higher psychic powers such as
spiritual perception with its infallible knowledge,the intuition with
its unerring judgement and psychometry of the higher kind with its
power to reveal the past and the future, are the perogatives of the
divine soul. Thes higher powers come into play when the head and the
heart centres, as well as the throat cente, are brought into activity
as the result of meditation and service. Let the student however
remeber two things:
That the greater can always include the lesser, but the purely
animal psychic does not include the higher.
That betweenthe lowest negative mediumship and the highest type of
inspired teacher and seer are found a vast diversity of garde, and that
the centres are not uniformly developed in humanity.
Two questions should, I believe, at this time engross the attention of
all workers inthe field of esotericism and those who are engaged with
the training of students and aspirants.
1. How shall we train our sensitives and psychics so that the
dangers can be avoided and men go safely forward to their
new and glorious heritage?
2. How can esoteric schools or "disciplines" as they are
sometimes called,make right use of the opportunity.
1. Training of psychics.
The first thing to be borne in mind is that negative, unintelligent
medioumship and psyhism reduces its exponent to the level of an
automaton; it is dangerous and inadvisable becuase it deprives man of
his free will and his positity, and militates against his acting as a
free intelligent human being. The man is not acting in these cases as a
channel for his own soul, but is little better than an instictual
animal, if he is notliteraly an empty shell, which an obsessing entity
can occupy and use. When speaking thus I am dealing with the very
lowest type of animal mediumship of which there is far too much these
days, and which is the cause of concern to the best minds in all the
movements which foster mediumship. A mediumship which is entered into
with a fully conscious, focused attitude and in hich the medium,
knowingly and intelligently, vacates his body toan entering entity of
whom he is fully aware and who takes possession with his conscious
permission in order to serve some spiritual end and help his fellowmen
can be right and good. But how often is this type of mediumship to be
seen? few mediums know the technique governing the passing in or out of
an informing entity, nor do they know how to carry on this work in such
a way that never for a moment are they unaware of what they themselves
are doing and the purpose of their activity. Definately and with
purpose they lend their body temporarily to another soul for service,
preserving thier ownintegrity all the time. The highest expression of
this type of activity was the giving by the disciple Jesus for the use
of the Christ. It is inthe word "Service" that the whole story lies,
and the safeguard. When this true mediumship is better understood, we
shall have the medium passing out of his body in full waking
consciousness through the orifice at the top of his head, and not, as
is now the case in the majority of instances, through the solar plexus,
with no preservation of awareness of the transaction,nor any
recollection of what has transpired.
We shall then have the temporary entrance of new tenant along the
lines of a synchronous vibration through the entrance in the head, and
the subsequent use of the instrument of the loaned body in service of
some kind or another. But this procedure will never be followed in
order to satisfy idle curiosity, or an equally idle grief, based on
personal loneliness and self pity. At present many of the lower kind of
mediums are exploited by the curious or unhappy public, and those
peculiar human beings whose consciousness is centered entirely below
the diaphragm and whose solar plexus is indeed their brain (as it is
the brain of the animal) are forced to act as mediums to satisfy the
love of sensation or desire for comfort of their almost equally
unintelligent fellowmen.
At the same time, there are mediums of a very high order whose lives
are offered in service to advanced souls on the other side of the veil,
and who give themselves so that their fellowmen may learn of them;
thus, on both sides of the veil of separation, are souls aided and
givenm opportunity to hear or serve. But these too would profit by a
more intelligent training and by a more accurate understanding of the
technique of their work and the organisation of their bodies. They wold
then be better channels and more dependable intermediaries.
Above all,let the psychics inthe world grasp the necessity of
controlling and not being controlled.
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| 1961.1 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Mon Jun 13 1994 14:29 | 6 |
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That's the fellow who was channelled by Alice Bailey, yes?
Do you know which book in the series that this writing came from?
Cindy
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| 1961.2 | sounds like it | DWOVAX::STARK | Knowledge is good. | Mon Jun 13 1994 15:05 | 4 |
| It certainly has the familiar hypnotic rhythm of 'chanelled' material.
It it isn't, it is a good imitation !
todd
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| 1961.3 | The Arcane school | SHIPS::MANGAN_S | | Fri Jun 17 1994 12:29 | 27 |
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.
The article was originally printed in the book "The externalisation of
the Hierarchy" (pp 3-20) printed by the Lucis Press. I received it as a
small booklet from the Lucis organisation as part of the training given
in the Arcane school...which was yes, started by Alice Bailey.
Those interested in esoteric training can obtain a further pamphlet
entitled "What is an esoteric school?" by Alice Bailey by writing to
the Arcane School...It has headquarters all over the world. The UK
centre is
THE ARCANE SCHOOL
suite 54
3 Whitehall Court
London
England SW1A 2EF
regards
Steve
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| 1961.4 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Fri Jun 17 1994 12:56 | 27 |
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Steve,
I don't know if you may remember another participant here who left a
few years ago - Jeff Lackey. He was very much into the Bailey
material. You might search for his notes if you're interested. Also,
I can give you his address if you'd like to contact him directly.
I have several of the books, and I've gotten a lot out of them, but
I have to say they tend to put me to sleep with their wordiness. I
personally feel too, that they're somewhat outdated given that we've
all moved along so fast since they were published back in the 1940s
(correct?) or so.
They were a great bridge between the East and West at that time,
because they put a lot of the Eastern concepts into language that the
West could more easily understand and relate to. In fact, that's how
I found them to be when I first began reading them several years ago
so I owe them a debt of gratitude for that. They made the links
between Eastern and Western approaches to spirituality much clearer.
However now I prefer to go right to the sources which mostly come
from India, such as "Autobiography Of A Yogi" or any of Yogananda's
works, and also works by Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, and the great Indian
saints in general.
Cindy
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| 1961.5 | Out of date - and only just written | TRUCKS::MANGAN | | Tue Jun 21 1994 12:22 | 66 |
| Cindy,
thanks for the note. I can appreciate your desire to go back to
the sources of the works as I noted your interest in Sanskrit in a
previous note (No doubt there are other reasons as well? I would be
interested to know). I havn't read the books you referenced but have
made a note of them and will get round to them when it feels right, and
I can find the time.
The information in the sources you referenced is, I would imagine, from
the same source as the westernised works by Blavatski (in the 1870's),
then reiterated and extended by Bailey in the 1930-40's...ie the
Ancient Wisdoms. The major differences I presume to be in the format,
style and presentation.
I have been studying hard now for a few years. Both the Blavatski
and Bailey books are extremely hard going if you go straight into them.
Most difficulty being caused by the unfamiliar terms. I believe that
they were probably set up like that to deter the solely curious. (who
knows?)
I was recommended to read some books written by Arthur E. Powell. He
basically summarised the works of A. Besant and C.W. Leadbetter (second
generation students of Blavatski). This made Blavatski and the Bailey
books much easier to read as it gave a framework of terms to hang the
concepts on.
It was a natural progression for me to join the Arcane school..which is
basically a study and meditation correspondence course. (though a VERY
demanding one). There are many ways in life to enlightenment and I
would not for one minute try and promote one above another. It is for
the individual to choose in line with their soul preferences. I guess
it is the structured mental approach that appeals to me in the Bailey
books.
Excuse the impudence but why should books written in the 1940's or even
the 1870's be out of date? There are many wise books worth reading
going back thousands of years.
I presume the Indian books you referenced are more recent? If the
information they are describing has been true for thousands of years,
is it any less true for being re-written 50 or 20,000 years ago?
One aspect of humanities' evolution which always stays in my mind is
that of the sheer magnitude of the time involved. Evolution moves so
slowly. (It takes many ages for the mass of humanity to develop
emotional control and to develop a higher mentality etc etc. )
Although I would expect a slow growth in the amount of information
released from the Hierarchy, it would be negligable over such a short
period as since the 1940's. The basics will remain the same over millions
of years, the format and presentation alone being the major changing
factor.
(I am presuming you believe in an involved Hierarchy?)
Thanks for the Jeff Lackey reference. I will do a search as soon as
I find out how to.
regards
Steve
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| 1961.6 | some replies | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Tue Jun 21 1994 16:47 | 146 |
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Steve,
> Thanks for the Jeff Lackey reference. I will do a search as soon as
> I find out how to.
You can type: dir *.*/author=lackey - that should do it for you.
> (I am presuming you believe in an involved Hierarchy?)
Absolutely. I think our perceptions/views of the 'Hierarchy' may be a bit
different, but in general I do believe that the Divine is most definitely
actively involved in what is going on right now, and always has been.
> One aspect of humanities' evolution which always stays in my mind is
> that of the sheer magnitude of the time involved. Evolution moves so
> slowly. (It takes many ages for the mass of humanity to develop
> emotional control and to develop a higher mentality etc etc. )
>
> Although I would expect a slow growth in the amount of information
> released from the Hierarchy, it would be negligable over such a short
> period as since the 1940's. The basics will remain the same over millions
> of years, the format and presentation alone being the major changing
> factor.
This is where we diverge - I see and feel that the last 50 years have seen
a explosion in the understanding and experience of consciousness. The energy
that is bombarding the planet now is incredibly intense - far more than ever
before - and I believe as a result that humanity has come a long way in a
mere 50 years.
That the Berlin Wall is down, the Soviet Union is no more, and South Africa
now has a black president, are just a few examples.
> ...but why should books written in the 1940's or even
> the 1870's be out of date? There are many wise books worth reading
> going back thousands of years.
A lot of the information is eternal. But I also found information in the
Bailey material that is timeframe-specific, and therefore the timeframe
that it was written in must be taken into consideration. I find the Bible
to be the same way too, so I meant no insult to the Bailey material -
it's just I found with her material that it's important to consider what was
going on in the world at that time.
> I can appreciate your desire to go back to
> the sources of the works as I noted your interest in Sanskrit in a
> previous note (No doubt there are other reasons as well? I would be
> interested to know). I havn't read the books you referenced but have
> made a note of them and will get round to them when it feels right, and
> I can find the time.
One statement I read in Alice Bailey's unfinished autobiography was that she
felt herself becoming a bit snobbish by using the original Sanskrit terms, so
she decided to change that and put them into words that people could more
easily understand.
That's fine, and there's nothing wrong in her decision to do that. In fact,
she performed a great service to the West by doing what she did. But now that
I've gotten closer to the sources, I find that I've experienced some of the
deeper meanings that I did not get from her material because they got 'lost
in the translation'.
> I have been studying hard now for a few years. Both the Blavatski
> and Bailey books are extremely hard going if you go straight into them.
> Most difficulty being caused by the unfamiliar terms. I believe that
> they were probably set up like that to deter the solely curious. (who
> knows?)
You know...I found it to be the opposite. It wasn't the terms, but the
wordiness that I had a difficult time getting through. I began to read the
set through "Points To Ponder" which was a great introduction to all the
terms (complete with references to the original books in the set that the
topics/definitions/terms came from), and one I'd highly recommend to
everybody here who would like to begin to read the Bailey material, or at
least get an overview. "Serving Humanity" is also another good book I found
to start with.
> It was a natural progression for me to join the Arcane school..which is
> basically a study and meditation correspondence course. (though a VERY
> demanding one). There are many ways in life to enlightenment and I
> would not for one minute try and promote one above another. It is for
> the individual to choose in line with their soul preferences. I guess
> it is the structured mental approach that appeals to me in the Bailey
> books.
Absolutely. It's whatever 'speaks to you' that is the most important thing
in the end.
I don't believe that my way is necessarily better than any other way, so I
hope you did not read that into my response. It's just that in my searches
and travels, this is how I found the Bailey material to be...and nothing more
than that. I've also meditated with the Self-Realization Fellowship group
locally and that wasn't exactly for me either, yet it has been wonderful for
many of my friends. The SRF was founded by Paramahansa Yogananda. I did
subscribe to their lessons for a while. They were OK - and a lot of the
information applies even now - but I found them geared more toward the
predominently western Christian audience that existed in the earlier part of
this century when they were written. I do like "Autobiography Of A Yogi"
by him though, since it is the story of his life verses formal teachings.
> I presume the Indian books you referenced are more recent? If the
> information they are describing has been true for thousands of years,
> is it any less true for being re-written 50 or 20,000 years ago?
I wasn't thinking so much of the Indian books as I was of all the other
books by other authors in the West that have been written since the 1940s
focusing in on the higher knowledge that is coming through now.
However, I like the books from India because for some odd reason I just
resonate with them easier than the Bailey/Blavatski/Leadbeater-type material.
To me it feels as if the western authors were trying to explain Eastern
concepts within the Western frame of reference, and this became very
confusing for me. But the Indian authors presenting the same concepts
from strictly the Eastern frame of reference was much easier for me to
understand.
I'm reminded of the time a few years ago I purchased my first bike with
gears, and the fellow was trying to explain how the gears worked, but with
the language he was using, I just wasn't getting it. Finally I said to him,
"I studied mechanics in college. Can you possibly put all this in terms of,
say, gear ratios?" He replied, "Of course!" When he did, I finally got it.
Same concepts, different language.
> The information in the sources you referenced is, I would imagine, from
> the same source as the westernised works by Blavatski (in the 1870's),
> then reiterated and extended by Bailey in the 1930-40's...ie the
> Ancient Wisdoms. The major differences I presume to be in the format,
> style and presentation.
Are these the Vivekananda, Ramakrishna, Yogananda books I mentioned? Or
something else?
I have read very little of Blavatski, Besant and C.W. Leadbeater (found
them to be similar to the Bailey material - a bit wordy). Do you know if
Besant is a student of Krishnamurti? I have read a number of his works.
Cindy
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| 1961.7 | add'l | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Wed Jun 22 1994 12:51 | 55 |
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Steve,
It has been several years since I read the Bailey material, so last
night I pulled out the 7 books I have from the set. They are: "From
Bethelehem to Calgary", "Esoteric Psychology I & II", "Points To
Ponder", "Serving Humanity", and "Treatise on White Magic".
Btw, the address for the Arcane school - there's also an address in the
US now. If you don't have it, I can enter it here.
It was very interesting - one comment made in Esoteric Psychology I
said that the prior 500 years had seen a lot of major changes, and that
the next 200 years (of which we are now 50 years into) would be even
more intense. I still found that some of the material was somewhat
dated, and that it was mentioned several times that quite a few things
would become more clear 'in the future'. This is what I meant by
timeframe-dependent. Therefore, it's necessary for the readers to keep
in mind that this material came out in the 1940s (or thereabouts).
I was very happy to see that in two major problematic areas - Health
and the (Right Use of) Sex - there has been major progress made toward
the goal of a more holistic approach and understanding that was predicted
in the books. Although there is still a lot of resistance to alternative
medicine taking into account the energy body in traditional western
medical circles (and you can even see some of that reflected in this
conference re: Ayurveda), still there are quite a few western-trained
medical doctors and health practitioners willing to try to bridge the gap
and are beginning to increase their understanding in this area. Also,
people such as Dr.Richard Gerber (author "Vibrational Medicine"), and
Barbara Brennan ("Hands of Light", and Light Emerging"), to name but a
few, are doing a wonderful job at bringing the disciplines closer
together. The Institute Of Noetic Sciences and the Fetzer Institute are
but two instututions doing some amazing work in this area as well.
On the Right Use of Sex - one of the places on the upcoming March 1995
tour of the Yucatan Mayan pyramids is Uxmal, and the Dalai Lama, along
with Mayan elders and all participants will participate in a ceremony to
do the following (from the brochure):
Uxmal - ceremony to awaken the true powers of the human being.
This ceremony will be carried out by His Holiness the Dalai Lama,
all Masters and all participants. At the center of magnetic energy,
priestesses directed a phallic cult of great importance for Mayan
society. Through meditation we will ask permission to reopen the
Tantric School that was once here and try to relearn the proper
use of sex.
Question - I noticed that Alice Bailey had written a book/commentary on
the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Do you have that book, and if so, can
you please tell me more about it? I have two commentaries on these
Sutras - one by Georg Feuerstein, and one by Taimni called "The Science
Of Yoga".
Cindy
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| 1961.8 | Hierarchically speaking | TRUCKS::MANGAN | | Mon Jun 27 1994 12:42 | 55 |
| Cindy...
my concept of a hierarchy is based on...
It is apparent in this world that there are many people at a low degree
of evolution with little; control of emotional desire, mental
abilities, will or capacity for love. The mass of humanity are, at this
time, mainly focussed in their Astral/emotional bodies. Conversely,
there are many people with varying strengths in one or all of these
faculties.
Assuming the law of reincarnation between us...
Given the ability to differentiate, this information could be
represented by some form of standard distribution curve. I would expect
that there would be a constant state of flux within it's detail, but
that the overall form would evolve/change only slowly.
It would therefore follow that there would be a small number of
individuals who have approached or exceeded the highest standard of
evolution for this world. It is easy to imagine that some of these
individuals by definition would have the will and the love to sacrifice
themselves to the cause of humanity and so remain here to actively
work. (On whatever plane they were effective)..rather than continuing
on any of the other six superhuman evolutionary paths.
Re divergence over timescales of 50 years.....
I agree the changes over the last 50 years are large..Berlin wall etc as
you quoted. I also agree that it is the result of the changes of energy
bombarding the planet. Bailey states that it is energy of the seventh
ray (ritual/ceremonial) comming into manifestation, taking over from the
sixth ray (the mystic ray) (?)
Re ..wordiness...I understand where you are comming from. It is wordy,
it's also repetitious, though I think it's meant to be repetitious so
it goes in.
From memory, I think Krishnamurti was a lad who Leadbetter trained
thinking he was a second messiah. Krishnamurti eventually rebelled and
went his own way. (and was probably the better for it as I gather that
Leadbetter was into small boys, if you know what I mean!)
I've not read, but have just ordered the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali.
I'm looking forward to reading them.
regards
Steve
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| 1961.9 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Tue Jun 28 1994 18:16 | 58 |
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Steve,
>my concept of a hierarchy is based on...(etc.)
Ok, that makes sense.
That's actually what I perceive is the original caste system referred to
in Hinduism - the 4 original castes reflecting the state of the inner
being, and nothing to do with such horrible ideas as untouchables, etc.
In such a case, 'caste' is not something that one is born into (family-
based), rather it is based on the soul progression and realization. In
this way, ancient marriages were based not on such superficial things as
wealth, education, looks, etc. Instead, the gurus who could directly
determine the inner state of a person would match them up with someone
who was at about their same level of spiritual progress. Then harmonious
marriages would take place.
>Given the ability to differentiate, this information could be
>represented by some form of standard distribution curve. I would expect
>that there would be a constant state of flux within it's detail, but
>that the overall form would evolve/change only slowly.
Yes, I can see that. Yet it seems these days that the rate keeps
increasing at an almost exponential rate, especially since around 1987
or so, at the time of the Harmonic Convergence in August of that year.
>I also agree that it is the result of the changes of energy
>bombarding the planet. Bailey states that it is energy of the seventh
>ray (ritual/ceremonial) coming into manifestation, taking over from the
>sixth ray (the mystic ray) (?)
Indeed.
>Re ..wordiness...I understand where you are comming from. It is wordy,
>it's also repetitious, though I think it's meant to be repetitious so
>it goes in.
Well, it still has the effect of putting me to sleep. (|^)
>From memory, I think Krishnamurti was a lad who Leadbetter trained
>thinking he was a second messiah. Krishnamurti eventually rebelled and
>went his own way. (and was probably the better for it as I gather that
>Leadbetter was into small boys, if you know what I mean!)
That's interesting. There was an article in one of the yoga publications
I subscribe to that mentioned Krishnamurti's possible darker side as
well. Don't think it involved small boys, (women disciples perhaps?) but
I had heard that about Leadbeater before. It is unfortunate that these
things happen...they were so open at the upper chakras, but it appears to
me that their lower chakras were not healthy enough to cope with the
upper levels being so open.....a problem that catches so many unaware.
Cindy
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| 1961.10 | Krishnamurti | TRUCKS::MANGAN | | Tue Jul 05 1994 09:58 | 40 |
| Cindy,
Some information on Krishnamurti, taken form the "Aquarian Guide to the
New Age"....
"In 1910, Jiddu Krishnamurti, the 15 year old son of Brahmin parents,
was in Adyar, India, when the strength of his aura caught the psychic
eye of C.W. Leadbeater, the noted Theosophist. Leadbeater was so
impressed that he persuaded his friend and colleague Annie Besant to
join with him in adopting the boy.
Krishnamurti was carried off to England where he was intensively
groomed as the next incarnation of Lord Maitreya, the new World
Teacher. His own mystical organisation, the Order of the Star of the
East, was established for him and, as a teenage guru, he quickly
attracted thousands of followers.
The life style did not agree with him. In 1929, he threw his hat at the
whole sorry business, dissolving the Order and told his followers
bluntly to find another guru since he had no spiritual authority
whatsoever.
In it's own way, this move was a genuine vindication of Besant and
Leadbeater's convication that they had found a most remarkable
personality. Having repudiated Theosophy, Krishnamurti went forth with
the message that all beliefs are mental and spiritual strait-jackets
and all religions a convenient way to offload responsibility for one's
personal state. The road to freedom and enlightenment was simply
self-observation and the only difficulty to be overcome was the age-old
problem of actually getting down to it.
He died in 1985 aged 91. "
regards
Steve
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| 1961.11 | much appreciated! | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Tue Jul 05 1994 21:01 | 5 |
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My goodness! Thanks so much for that, Steve. Puts many pieces of the
puzzle together for me re: Who's Who from that timeframe.
Cindy
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