Conference hydra::dejavu

    Try conference WIDGET::UFOS note 187.
    

    Thanks!!
    
    Dick

    Marcos, thank you so much for entering that info.

    Marcos, thank you very much for entering that information.
    
    *Susan*/*Stella*

Marcos, I note that these news flashes are posted somewhat out of
order. Is this just the order you happen to receive them in, or is
there another reason for posting in this order?

Just curious. Thanks for posting. I enjoy reading them.

    I think Ashtar Command is mentioned elsewhere in Dejavu also --
    Talligai's notes -- but I'm not adept enough to know how to
    search for it!
                    

    Thanks, Marcos, for that food for thought.
    

    Re .17

    >GREENWICH TIME will cease to exist in reality.

    Er um, cough. GMT ceased to exist in reality many years ago. It was
    replaced by UST which comes from an atomic clock somewhere in Germany.

    My watch has a radio link to this clock and it appears to be totally
    unaffected by the time shifts.

    Jamie.

	Well, Jamie, it looks like confrontation time for you.
	It would seem to me that you are in denial.
	Prepare to deflate your ego.
	
	Oh yeah, and Ashtar Command Central has intercepted your radio
	link to UST. That's why it is unaffected by the time shifts.
	
	
	;-)
	Jay

    I find it interesting that Ashtar is very articulate in some notes and 
    can't even spell in others (Jupiture?!?) What are these worlds coming
    to?
    
    ;^),
    
    
    Marilyn
       

    
    Re.19
    
    How does the watch work, Jamie?  Would it work if you were located
    as far away as the US?  Is it expensive?
    
    Cindy

    OK it works like this. Somewhere in Germany they have this super
    accurate atomic clock. Attached to it is a very very low frequency
    radio transmitter (I think it is as low as 16 Khz). Every minute it
    transmits the date and time.

    Under normal circumstances my watch will activate its receiver just
    before 02:00 and listen for the signal and reset itself to the atomic
    clock. Should it fail the first time it will try a further twice at
    02:01 and 02:02. If this fails it powers down the receiver and tries
    again between 03:00 and 03:02.

    However I can force it to clear itself and listen until it receives the
    time at which point the hands will move to the correct time and the
    digital display will show the date, day of the week and seconds.

    We also have a digital clock that works in the same manner.

    When I go to the UK, one time zone back, I press a button and the watch
    subtracts an hour from the time signal. Should I go East I can push a
    second button and it will add an hour. It can accept a �2 hour
    variation from the time signal.

    I think, but am not sure, that a similar transmitter covers the USA but
    it works on a different frequency so my watch could not receive the
    signals and would just work as a normal watch there and correct itself
    when I got home.

    One of the disadvantages is, it doesn't work too well in Newfoundland.

    It is amusing to watch the minute hand move exactly in time with the
    last pip of the time signal on the radio and I never have to remember
    to put it on an hour or back as we move from winter time to summer
    time.

    It was a present but I believe it cost around $400.

    Jamie.
    

	Oooh, I want one of those watches. :-)
	I have to set mine, manually, to Peter Jennings.
	(Network TV news ;-)
	
	Jay

    Is this the Don Allen of bee pollen fame?

    inquiring minds etc.....

    
    Thanks Jamie.  I'm with Jay - sounds like a neat toy!  (;^)
    
    (Sorry for the diversion, Marcos...now back to our regularly scheduled
    topic.)
    
    Cindy

    >Is this the Don Allen of bee pollen fame?
    
    I doubt it. Anything Don Allen wrote looked like a call for the
    unconditional surrender of the English language.

    Jamie.

    
    			;-)
    

    Am I stupid or is this stuff off the wall and not making a whole lot
    of sense?   Somebody needs to explain?  And yes I am open to teaching.

    Re .33

    >Am I stupid or is this stuff off the wall and not making a whole lot
    >of sense?   Somebody needs to explain?  And yes I am open to teaching.
    
    Are you daring to suggest that the King is actually naked?

    Jamie.

    
    Re.33
    
    Can you be a little more specific?
    
    Cindy

    >Can you be a little more specific?
    
    He thinks that it is complete and utter rubbish from beginning to end?

    If this is so, I suspect that he is far from being alone.

    Jamie.

    Make no conclusions! I am trying to understand... there is no
    explanation as to what you are discussing...

    Ah! I'm afraid that if you require an explanation, you are incapable of
    understanding the issue at hand.  I think that you are making an
    attempt to make some sense out of it. I doubt if you will succeed.
    Fortunately the designers of Easynotes foresaw this problem and I think
    that if you press the comma key on your numeric keyboard the problem
    will instantly be solved.

    Jamie.

    Sound's like a cop out to me.  Come on explain to me what it is that
    you are talking about.  Your first response is to condemn me for
    something that I dont understand.  In that case I think that any
    body who reads this note has to be a sceptic!
                                           LATER ON AND LIKE MUCH.....

    
    Re.33 (Schwarzman)
    
    Jamie's comments aside this time...I'll ask again.
    
    *** Can you be more specific as to what you are not understanding? ***
    
    I'm happy to try to explain whatever it is you have a question on, but
    I need to know a bit more first.  Do you not understand the:
    
    	- entire notestring?
    	- an individual note in this string?
        - a paragraph or so in an individual note?
    	- a particular statement that was made?
    
    Please elaborate.
    
    Cindy

    I thought it was quite clear. Jamie, Cindy, and Jay are discussing
    Jamie's nifty chronotoy. I want one also. Marcos is posting stuff he
    receives from someone who channels it through the entity known as
    Ashstar, however the majority of the discussion is still about the
    watch. I have a question on the watch. Some people can't wear watches
    as their internal chemistry, magnetic field, or aura or energy or
    whatever one wishes to call it causes the watch to not keep proper
    time. How would this affect the Atomic Watch? Would it constantly
    correct itself or would it just keep spinning around? Not critical,
    just being curious.
    
    Bright Blessings
    
    PJ

	PJ,
	
	The atomic watch, I'm afraid, would try to correct you instead.
	
	
	
	
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	(just kiddin ;')

    Politically or in some other way?
    
    Bright Blessings
    
    PJ

    >I have a question on the watch. Some people can't wear watches as
    >their internal chemistry, magnetic field, or aura or energy or whatever
    >one wishes to call it causes the watch to not keep proper time. How
    >would this affect the Atomic Watch?

    The watch is not atomic, it is powered by a battery. 

    Essentially it is the front part of a normal watch, and hour hand and a
    minute hand. This is mechanical and is driven by a pulse once a minute
    from the electronic half.

    There is a small LCD showing the day of the month, the month, the
    seconds and the day of the week.

    Do these people have trouble with digital watches?

    Personally I can't get a mechanical self winding watch to keep working
    for more that a week on my wrist. I got one for my 21st and despite
    trying several different types I could not find one that would keep
    running. No other type of watch gives me any trouble.

    >Would it constantly correct itself or would it just keep spinning
    >around?
    
    It would correct itself when it thought that it was 2 am. But I doubt
    if it would fail.
    
    Jamie.
                     

>    Politically or in some other way?

	You'll want to buy all of Rush's books!
	
	;-)

    THE GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD ??????????



    Is this a Southern-type organization?



    justme....jacqui

    re .48 jacqui
    
    Great White Brotherhood is explained in one of Talligai's strings.
    I'm sorry I do not know how to find it for you.  But the term
    has to do with white light.  Nothing southern.
    
    *Stella*

    Jay, no I won't. Check out womannotes for more on Rush Limbaugh. :-)
    Bleeehhh and he's going to be on WRKO AM talk radio (Boston station for
    you out of towners) for 3 hours every afternoon starting in September.
    Guess I stop listening to that station.
    
    Jamie, thanks for more info on the watch. My calling it an Atomic Watch
    was a small (very small) attempt at a bit of humor. As far as folks not
    being able to wear digital (not us :-)  ) watches, I'm not sure either.
    
    Marcos, I think a number of us are having some fun with this string
    lately. The poster of the basenote does seem to want some serious
    answers about the Ashtar information. The rest of us have degraded
    (risen?) into downright silliness. Some of us need some silliness right
    now.
    
    Bright Blessings
    
    PJ

    
    Welcome back again, Stella!  (;^)
    
    Jacqui, the GWB is also mentioned in the Alice Bailey material that she
    channelled and wrote back in the earlier part of this century. 
    However, I have since forgotten what exactly it was that they are.
    Nothing like a bunch of men who get together, smoke cigars, wear funny
    hats and have secret handshakes and moose calls though.  (;^)
    
    Cindy

    Calling it the GWB tends to come across, to me, as being not very
    diversity-sensitive.  Issues such as these need clarification for
    those of us not in the know so that we don't jump to sometimes rash
    thoughts.

    Thanks to all who clarified for us members who read here.

    justme....jacqui

    FWIW, I think the Great White Brotherhood has been talked about in 
    Rosicrucian literature, et al. for a long time. The White in
    Brotherhood, as someone already noted, deals with the white light of
    spirituality, not with any racial connotations anyone may have with
    this. Since this term is quite old, I think, it predates any PC
    issues people may have with it.
    
    Marilyn
                            

>                -< Don't look for offense where there is none >-

 

    IF people do not challenge statements that appear to have sensi-
    tivity issues related to them and ask for clarification, then
    in some cases there are persons who accept them in the present-
    day genre.  This, then, perpetuates the wrong message.  

    It was quite interesting to see George Wallace trying to over-
    come his place in history last night on one of the news talk
    shows.  He is known as THE racist leader of the South.  He is
    now apparently getting ready to meet his maker and wants to 
    show the public that his past was in arrears.  

    justme....jacqui

    Exactly, Jacqui. People must challenge and not blindly follow. A lot of
    stuff comes through as being rather sinister. Some because it is and
    some because it just sounds that way. When I first heard about GWB, I
    thought of the folks in pointy-headed sheets also. Recently I've been
    reading Journey of Souls. (Author's name escapes me at the moment.)
    It's about people who've been hypnotised as in Past Life Regression,
    but stopped in between lives to describe the Afterlife. He (the author)
    claims to get a lot of striking similarity of experience in his
    subjects stories. He seems to combine some of the myth of "heaven" that
    a lot of us have grown up with along with some Hindu sounding beliefs,
    plus school. Now I was quite put off by the talk of groups of souls not
    associating with other groups. It sounded extremely snobbish in how it
    was described. This may be because "No human words can describe it" or
    it may be outright untruth by the author or it may be our limited human
    understanding. Hey maybe Heaven is really a bunch of snobs sticking
    with specific souls for eternity. (Somehow, I doubt it:-) ) Point is to
    question authority and to alway authorize questioning and you are
    right.
    
    Bright Blessings
    
    PJ

    
    "Great Black Sisterhood" conjures up some interesting images too...(;^)
    
    Just looked through a few Alice Bailey books and couldn't find a direct
    reference to the GWB in the indexes or toc's, but there are entries for
    the Hierarchy and Great White Lodge...it's been a while since I've seen
    the GWB reference itself.  Will keep watch out for it though. 
    
    Y'know...I think the answer lies within this conference...if anyone has
    time, search for author=Lackey...I'm certain I asked Jeff this question
    in the conference since I had the same reaction many years ago and
    think Jeff was the one who mentioned it, hence my association with the 
    Bailey works.
    
    Cindy

	Using the SEARCH utility I found these references to "The Great
	White Brotherhood" ...
	
Note	       Title			Comment
 407.2	    St Germain		Earliest reference; Jul, 1987

1199.5	    Maitreya		This string was introduced by Atkinson
    .10	    			(then Altraea) and discusses Lord Maitreya
    .15	    			and his connections to the GWB. Cindy asked
    .19	    			about a tie to Roscrucians. Reply .143 is a
    .143    			very lengthy posting from Marcos.

1235.1	    1199.24		Note was started from discussions in 1199.
    .2	    			Reply .2 has a pointer to 1199.30
    .5

1460.8	    Welcome Talligai	Atkinson now noting as Talligai.
    .137
    .148
    .151
    .166

1541.12	    ...Samurai Writer	Lengthy postings from a former noter (Lenny
    .46    			"something") Reply .12 is 2,671 lines and .12
	    			is 798 lines.

1705.114    The End Of 		This reply is a News posting by Jamie Anderson
 	    The World		where the end of the world is called off.

1876.15	    Ashtar Command      This is the currrent discussion.
    .45
    .48

	Jay

    
    No plea for money at the end this time, Jamie.  (;^)
    
    I'm still puzzled why they keep referencing Krishna and Shiva for 
    Hinduism when the avatar for this age is Lord Kalki (per *real* 
    Hinduism).
    
    Cindy

    If their copy writer gets paid by the word he must be rich.

    Jamie.

    Marcos
    
    I saw Talligai last evening at the 12:12 celebration.  She asked me
    to thank you for keeping us all posted with your Ashtar et al.
    notes and she sends you Namasthe.
    
    Namasthe from moi aussi
    *Stella*

    
    It's open season on your notes from now on, Marcos.  (;^)
    
    Cindy
    
    PS. I'll be in Rio in February...on a preplanned tour.

    re .66 Marcos
    You have posted only part of Talligai's note.  What is this called ...
    taking it out of context?  I do not know how to get it and put it here
    for everyone to read her entire posting.  It seems to me that you are
    using the part you choose to use for your own benefit and ignoring the
    part that states she (we all) have the ability to transcend our
    physical bodies at will.  Talligai got "raptured up" and "vaporized
    into etheric realms," as you say, at will.  She returns to the physical
    earth plane at will also.
    
    I AM not speaking for Talligai.  I simply read her note 1775 which you
    refer to.

    >You have posted only part of Talligai's note.  What is this called ...
    >taking it out of context?

    Given Marcos's talent for filling this disk, I think I can forgive him
    just this once.

    Jamie.

    I didn't even bother to finish reading the <noun> in the previous
    entry.
    
    "Ashtar" is an older deity than the manufactured "Ashtaroth".  Ashtar
    is Ishtar; "Ashtaroth" is the plural of "Ashereh", the Semitic form
    of the name.
    
    							Ann B.

    
    "UFOnauts" - it may be an old word, but it's a new one for me.  (;^)
    
    Cindy