Conference hydra::dejavu

    This conference is definitely becoming weirder.

    Jamie.

	Kinda feels like home, donit ::ANDERSON?
	
	nyuck nyuck!

    Not wierd enough though... :-)

    don't worry, it will get weirder...
    
    ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh
    
    boo!
    

    Bring on the weird. 
    
    Joe

    Darnit!
    
    I skip this conference for a few days and something (obviously
    interesting) happens and I don't see it before it gets set hidden.
    
    Hmmmphh!
    
    Ruth

It's not hidden. It's not even there.

  Re .9

  NO No no ... you're forgetting that all abduction reports are the result of
  repressed sexual abuse as a child ... now this could be the psychiatric
  discovery of the decade - proof that VAXnotes can be molested when young !

  Frank

  PS : Mike (.8) at risk of introducing a subject to this prime rathole, how
  can you tell the difference between something that isn't there and something
  that is very effectively hidden ?  Does its [potential] existance matter
  anyway ?  What sound does it make if it falls in the forest when no-one is
  there ? :-)

	Of course this is the official topic for psychics.
	If you're one, you *know* what the topic is about.
	
	\ ~
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Re .10 (Frank)

>  PS : Mike (.8) at risk of introducing a subject to this prime rathole, how
>  can you tell the difference between something that isn't there and something
>  that is very effectively hidden ?

I was equally surprised to see Mike making the difference. Of course,
*everything* already is there; we just filter out what we do not *wish* to
see.

This is a rathole subject indeed! Why is nobody replying to the entry in .0?
You all reply as if that entry is effectively empty!

Arie

Re .10, you can see additional info about a note with the SHOW NOTE
command at the NOTES> prompt. Doing this for the basenote gives:

Note 1833.0                                                   12 replies
                                              0 lines   6-MAY-1993 01:10

     Note is not hidden
     Replies are enabled


However, you'll also notice that the basenote has no author. This means
that it was deleted (by the author or a moderator) sometime after it
was entered (and after the first response). The original note did have
an author; I don't remember who it was. But it had no title or text. It
was never hidden (that I noticed).

    I say it is the primeval rathole from which all other ratholes are
    descended. 

    Jamie.

The mother of all ratholes?

    soon to be a major motion picture.

  Re .13 (Mike)

  Aha !  The ever-present rationalistic view ?  You should know that phenomena
  such as "disappearing notes" <gasp> still cannot be completely explained by
  the conspiracy of establishment scientific knowledge :-)

> However, you'll also notice that the basenote has no author. This means
> that it was deleted (by the author or a moderator) sometime after it
> was entered (and after the first response). The original note did have
> an author; I don't remember who it was. But it had no title or text. It
> was never hidden (that I noticed).

  You are contradicting yourself - stop it, you'll go blind [oops, wrong
  topic] - by stating "... the basenote has no author" vs. "The original note
  did have an author".  Now as the "original" note in a topic is, by definition,
  the basenote, we have an inconsistency ... or perhaps your argument hinged
  on intent ? ... hmmm ... you're on shaky moral ground now I'm afraid ...

  Just because the means of creating this note was withdrawn - technical term
  "notus interruptus" - the effects upon the host system cannot be so easily
  altered without deep contemplation of our moral duty ... at what point do
  we admit that the pattern of characters that was so easily spilt on the page
  cannot be dismissed as "mere magnetic fields" but must be faced as a growing
  form in its own right ?

  Let's face it, how big does a note have to be for it to be recognised as
  an individual rather than just a collection of bits to be "erased" with
  cold-hearted precision and sent to that great null device in the sky ?

  Re .12 (Arie)

> This is a rathole subject indeed! Why is nobody replying to the entry in .0?
> You all reply as if that entry is effectively empty!

  Not in the least !

  Consider the hologram : the tiniest fragment contains the entire image
  [or rather it contains sufficient information to recreate the entire image].
  Applying this view to the base note explains why we can draw a whole variety
  of sub-topics from the mere impression that the basenote made on the fabric
  of this conference.  Hence, these are not rodent domiciles at all but are
  perfectly justified expansions of the topic !  QED.

  Now the question remains as to whether Cindy's .16 is an incompletely
  camouflaged note or is merely suggesting we period, er, stop.

  Frank

    
    And I got your #17 there, Frank.
    
    Now see if you can set it back to unhidden.
    
    Hehhehhehheh.
    
    Cindy

    
    Make that #18.
    
    Cindy

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  Re .13 (Mike)

  Aha !  The ever-present rationalistic view ?  You should know that phenomena
  such as "disappearing notes" <gasp> still cannot be completely explained by
  the conspiracy of establishment scientific knowledge :-)

> However, you'll also notice that the basenote has no author. This means
> that it was deleted (by the author or a moderator) sometime after it
> was entered (and after the first response). The original note did have
> an author; I don't remember who it was. But it had no title or text. It
> was never hidden (that I noticed).

  You are contradicting yourself - stop it, you'll go blind [oops, wrong
  topic] - by stating "... the basenote has no author" vs. "The original note
  did have an author".  Now as the "original" note in a topic is, by definition,
  the basenote, we have an inconsistency ... or perhaps your argument hinged
  on intent ? ... hmmm ... you're on shaky moral ground now I'm afraid ...

  Just because the means of creating this note was withdrawn - technical term
  "notus interruptus" - the effects upon the host system cannot be so easily
  altered without deep contemplation of our moral duty ... at what point do
  we admit that the pattern of characters that was so easily spilt on the page
  cannot be dismissed as "mere magnetic fields" but must be faced as a growing
  form in its own right ?

  Let's face it, how big does a note have to be for it to be recognised as
  an individual rather than just a collection of bits to be "erased" with
  cold-hearted precision and sent to that great null device in the sky ?

  Re .12 (Arie)

> This is a rathole subject indeed! Why is nobody replying to the entry in .0?
> You all reply as if that entry is effectively empty!

  Not in the least !

  Consider the hologram : the tiniest fragment contains the entire image
  [or rather it contains sufficient information to recreate the entire image].
  Applying this view to the base note explains why we can draw a whole variety
  of sub-topics from the mere impression that the basenote made on the fabric
  of this conference.  Hence, these are not rodent domiciles at all but are
  perfectly justified expansions of the topic !  QED.

  Now the question remains as to whether Cindy's .16 is an incompletely
  camouflaged note or is merely suggesting we period, er, stop.

  Frank

    
    Frank,
    
    Btw, you're far too analytical...
    
    The '.' meant absolutely nothing.  (;^)
    
    Cindy

    I think it's taken TFSO (the flying saucer option).
    
    Nanci

    this topic is sure is weird.

    \nasser

    Perhaps the base note got lost in the Bermuda Triangle.
    
    Laurie.

    re: previous,
    You're hallucinating.  I see the base note perfectly.  It's a pretty
    little black square entered anonymously.  Most intelligent thing
    I've read here in months, including my own entries.  Keep 'em coming.
    
    								todd

  <Mutter, mutter ... taking unfair advantage of timezones ... grumble ...>

  Re .27 (Marcos)

> Lost in a blast of methane gas?

  STOP PRESS : Notes conference found to suffer from acute indigestion ...

  <Cue Laurie : "I'm not surprised when you look at its diet" ?>

  Re .23 (Cindy)

> The '.' meant absolutely nothing.  (;^)

  Trust you to drag us back to the topic :-)

  Frank

.28> Ano Nymous

Is there a Portuguese word "ano" which means the same as the Spanish word?

    What are you guys talking about?  
    
    Oh nevermind... I probably wouldn't understand anyway.. 

                  
    They're/we're talking about absolutely nothing, Mary.
    
    So there's no-thing to understand.  (;^)
    
    Cindy

    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    Where's Wallie?
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    everything/nothing/everything/nothing/everthing/nothing/everything/nothing
    Ruth

    .. that about covers it...

    I think the basenote exposed the Great Zionist Conspiracy, and showed
    how it was responsible for both World Wars, the assassinations of JFK,
    RFK, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X, and the demise of the Evil
    Empire.
    
    The fact that it has been deleted, and other notes in this topic have
    been hidden, is clear evidence of this.
    
    Mark

Her message is quite clear and any psychic has always know that
(as do the rest of the people in the world who are just unaware of what
it is they know in some cases).

80)

    In Czech the word "ano" means yes, this is often abbreviated to "no".
    Needless to say this causes some confusion amongst English speakers. 

    When coupled with the way that they sell beer in the bars it can have
    some strange results. First let me say that the beer is *VERY* strong
    and tastes delicious. The method of getting served is to sit down and
    presently a passing waiter will come by with a tray of beer, he will
    give you a beer and tick your beer mat.

    When you have finished a glass of beer he will come up, ask you if you
    want another and if you agree the empty glass is removed, another full
    one is set down and another tick is put on your beer mat. If you
    decline then the number of ticks is totalled and you copper up.

    Now after about 4 glasses you tend to notice that the room is not as
    steady as it once was and it occurs to you that perhaps you have had
    enough. So you empty your glass, the waiter arrives, ask you if you
    want another and without thinking you say "no". Another beer is in
    front of you and the waiter is off before your befuddled brain can sort
    it out. As a result you get quite disgustingly drunk.

    Jamie.

    RE:  .37
    
    Huh???  You must be kidding. . .
    
    L

    re .39
    
    Wonderfulllll!!!!!   That is the BEST excuse I have heard in years.
    
    Judy (who does not usually have a good excuse)
    

    I TOLD you it would get weirder!!!!!!!
    
    E
    

    
    So you are trying to claim now that a prediction of yours came true?
    
    (;^)
    
    Cindy

    
    
    	noth-ing (nuth~ing) n.  1. No thing; not anything. 2. No part;
    	no portion: Nothing remains of its former glory.  3. One of no
    	interest or importance.  4. Absence of anything perceptible; 
    	nonexistence:  The sound faded into nothing.  5. Zero. -adv. Not
    	at all: He looks nothing like me.
    	Usage: Nothing takes a singular verb, even when it is followed 
    	by a phrase containing a plural noun or pronoun: Nothing except
    	your fears stands (not stand) in you path.
    
    	noth-ing-ness (nuth~ing-nis) n.  1. The condition or quality of
    	being nothing; nonexistence.  2. Empty space; void: The basenote
    	has faded into nothingness.
    
    	;^)
    
    	kath

    
    I think it is quite obvious that the basenote consists of that elusive
    substance, dark matter. 
    
    If we get enough of these we can predict that the universe will someday
    close in on itself (Closed Universe Model), rather than expanding
    forever (Open...well you get the idea). 
    
    So you see, we can determine our own fate, based on the number of these
    dark matter basenotes we create. 
    
    - Russ

    seems to me you are all missing the obvious:
    a wormhole to another dimension, a parallel universe
    in which form and substance are doppelgangered into
    nothingness.
    
    ta! 
    lynn

    ....actually, it's the old diggie-*I*-dot!

    
    
    	>seems to me you are all missing the obvious:
        >a wormhole to another dimension, a parallel universe
        >in which form and substance are doppelgangered into
        >nothingness.
    
    The key word being "nothingness"....  ;^)
    
    	Maybe it's a gate to the deadzone...
    
    	kath

ah hah!

the single-note theory

(is there a grassy knoll abouts?)

-ag