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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:	Psychic Phenomena
Notice:	Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:	JARETH::PAINTER

Created:	Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:	Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2143
Total number of notes:	41773

1726.0. "Hurricane Andrew" by BTOVT::HARAMUNDANIS () Mon Aug 31 1992 14:39

    Speaking with one of my ADF friends in S.Miami, Florida, it appears
    that the media is once again not providing us with the correct
    information on how bad the situation is in Florida.
    
    From reliable sources, I have been told that the death count is well
    over 200 (as opposed to the 35 between both Florida and Louisana) and
    that the national guard has "incarcerated" many immigrant workers
    there. Still a curfew at 7p.m., much looting going on and also there
    were over 1000 arrests of which the local news reports that there were
    none. I also heard that the National Guard and Red Cross were actually
    turning away people who were bringing food and supplies in from outside
    and that there are thousands of people who are not being helped.
    
    If this is any indication that we should start a grass-roots movement
    to help these folks out, we should do whatever we can. Contact those
    who you know down there and ask them how things are, to verify the
    above, and how you can help. The most badly hit areas are from South
    Miami, Kendall, Perrine through Homestead.
    
    My understanding is that the airport is open, and the post is working.
    Call who you know down there and send whatever you can. It is not clear
    that the Red Cross is properly distributing what funds they receive, so
    be forewarned.
    
    I personnally do not take for gospel everything that the media is
    dolling out to us; the propaganda for George Bush's campaign. All the
    footage we have seen is from single-family residential areas. There
    have been massive collapses of large apartment buildings that have
    killed many and the media is not reporting anything of this. They are
    still pulling the bodies out.
    
    So, do what you can to help. Prayer isn't enough (although that is
    needed to!). If you have access to a public BBS/computer network or
    other conferences, I would strongly urge to post this and get the word
    out wherever possible. It is time to organize folks, these people need help!

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1726.1	I heard something a bit different	WECARE::BOURGOINE		`Mon Aug 31 1992 16:19`	53
	>> From reliable sources, I have been told that the death count is well >> over 200 (as opposed to the 35 between both Florida and Louisana) and >> that the national guard has "incarcerated" many immigrant workers >> there. Still a curfew at 7p.m., much looting going on and also there >> were over 1000 arrests of which the local news reports that there were >> none. I also heard that the National Guard and Red Cross were actually >> turning away people who were bringing food and supplies in from outside >> and that there are thousands of people who are not being helped. Listening to NPR this morning on the way in - I heard a lot of this - I did not, however here any kind of death toll. Some of the stuff I did hear: - People unwilling to leave their homes (or whats left of them) for fear of looting - one man interviewed said that in his neighborhood people are shooting and asking questions later. - A great deal of chaos with the relief efforts - people trying to make donations of materials etc. and being unable to find anyone to accept them. - Many curfew arrests - I forget how they put it, but that there had been arrest for shooting incidents. - People who have yet to have a hot meal - a week later - The National Guard unable to set up tent shelters (didn't give any reason why, though) - Tempers flaring among people standing in lines waiting for XXX. The interviewed people standing and waiting for gov't checks at a make-shift post-office - people who had been witing in line for 3 -4 hours fighting with people who were cutting in etc. and yet NONE of the local bank were evern going to be open to cash them... I'm curious to know why they wouldn't report any of this on local newcasts - what would the point be of not reporting it? I have not watched any of the local news. FWIW Pat
1726.2	...so I got the news faster than NPR?!	BTOVT::HARAMUNDANIS		`Mon Aug 31 1992 18:24`	6
	...well, I too listen to NPR daily, and this morning they had none of this. The report you heard must have been at noon. Even so, yours is not really that different, as the situation is considerably worse than the gloss-over that NPR gave this morning. Keep an eye out folks...
1726.3	...wrong station, NPR did not give those details.	BTOVT::HARAMUNDANIS		`Mon Aug 31 1992 22:41`	14
	As an update, it seems strange that NPR would again not broadcast this news on the evening program as well. Possibly you had the station wrong? Interestingly enough, all they did was the very brief gloss-over of a slightly different version than the morning, and then they cut directly into a rather detailed article on what is happening in Iraq (favoring Bush again I might add). They did the same thing in the a.m. Seems to me that I can sure tell who's paying for those broadcasts, daily...and it's not the Clinton campaign! Don't be deceived folks, brainwashing comes in many forms, and this wouldn't be the first time that Bush used a news blackout as his main strategy...mainly for getting re-elected.
1726.4		VERGA::STANLEY	what a long strange trip it's been	`Tue Sep 01 1992 10:31`	1
	It'll take more than a news blackout to do that. :-)
1726.5	media pulblication	CGVAX2::CLEGG	stay tuned - Shakka	`Thu Sep 03 1992 17:01`	3
	The media is probably not publicizing the looting and anger because of all the disruption during the LA Riots. The LA riots seemed to spread like wildfire through several other states.
1726.6	There is no conspiracy	ACETEK::TIMPSON	From little things big things grow	`Tue Sep 08 1992 10:58`	7
	and it could be that there is no or very little looting and anger. The conspiracy is only in your own mind. The only thing going on in Florida is cleaning up and rebuilding. Steve
1726.7		HOO78C::ANDERSON	The wettest drought on record.	`Wed Sep 09 1992 03:20`	10
	Re .6 >There is no conspiracy Steve how could you contemplate such a thing. There must be a conspiracy to hide the truth. There always is you know, you just never hear about it. Without it life would be indescribably boring and we would have nothing to talk about. Jamie.
1726.9		VERGA::STANLEY	what a long strange trip it's been	`Wed Sep 09 1992 11:09`	2
	Civilization is a fragile thing... far more fragile than most of us realize, I think.
1726.10		PLAYER::BROWNL	It's purely medicinal	`Wed Sep 09 1992 12:26`	5
	RE: .8 No, I've not seen any of those. Censored I suppose. Laurie.
1726.11		VERGA::STANLEY	what a long strange trip it's been	`Wed Sep 09 1992 13:34`	1
	I've seen them on the news.
1726.12		HOO78C::ANDERSON	The wettest drought on record.	`Thu Sep 10 1992 02:45`	9
	Re .11 >I've seen them on the news. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the one who also saw on the news, riots in several European countries and a "tent city" being burnt down? Jamie.
1726.13		VERGA::STANLEY	what a long strange trip it's been	`Thu Sep 10 1992 11:41`	1
	You stand corrected. You are wrong.