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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1642.0. "Psychic for a Psychic?" by DSSDEV::GRIFFIN (Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty) Tue Mar 17 1992 13:59

Others have asked for personal experiences, so here I go again.  My 
ulterior motive for entering this, I suppose, is for some moral support, as well
as insight others might be able to bring to my experiences and impressions.  Or 
maybe you can point me to someone who can assist me (though I feel silly, a 
psychic asking for psychic help ;-).

The situation is this:  In a past life, I was found as a child (an orphan
being raised by peasants who truly cared for me) and deluded and
used to provide someone with power over others.  In the end, I discovered the
deceptions, after I had done much ill, and my response was purely anger
driven (we're talking mega destruction here).  Some part of me knew I was not 
ready to weild the powers I had (being still young, and emotionally driven), and
so I set things up for this life so that I would learn the control before coming
into full ability (I had help in this, and have had contact with at least the
spirit of those involved).

Well, the someone who used me did some planning as well.  Once I started
"awakening", he would try to twist events to turn me from a self chosen path to
one which would lead me to him (as his servant).  He hasn't succeeded, and won't.
Which I think he has come to realize.  His reaction now seems to have been to
throw booby traps in my way.  Everytime I acheive some growth, I am hit with
calamities financial and physical.  For example, I was recovering from pregnancy,
only to be hit with asthma.  I learned better understanding of some of my
perceptions (and how to use them), and at the same time recovering from a lower
back injury (I could move again!!!), and I suddenly have inflamed cartelig (sp?)
in my chest (the doctor and I could find no activety that resulted in an injury
 - it just became inflamed) AND expensive car trouble.  This has been going on 
for approximately 6 years now.

Once is accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.  Six years
is definitely 3 or more times.

Now, I haven't completely ruled out that these traps I set for myself, but I have
a hard time, given what I do know of what I set up for myself, believing that
I would be so abusive to myself.  Also, I have seen the topics about 
responsibility (down in my core I'm doing this to my self...I feel confident
that I have ruled THIS particular cause out.  I do believe that bad things can
happen to you for fully external reasons).

If I manage to set up a protection against direct affect to me, I am indirectly 
affected by attacks upon my spouse (lost his job, was involved in an auto 
accident, etc).

Having just recently realised that the traps exist, I did something that I HOPE
will give me a chance to see them and disarm them before they go off.  But is it
enough?  How do I get rid of this pest?!!?!?  The more progress I make, the more
severe the repurcussions, AND I DON'T DESERVE THIS!!!!!  I'm being punished for
becoming enlightened.  This does not compute ;-)


Thanks for "listening",
Beth
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1642.1Do nothing, till you hear from ...MRKTNG::MILLETTWed Mar 18 1992 12:3017
    Beth -- This is truly a conundrum - however, perhaps a different
    perspective might be worthwhile.
    
    A bit of Spiritual Warrior tactics might be in order, and though I
    would like to think of myself as "enlightened", or "strong" enough,
    I don't know if I am. What I'm going to recommend will be the toughest 
    test of your beliefs and abilities - but it may work.
    
    You may want to refrain from struggling - refrain from beating your
    wings.  Don't fight any more.  If you "capitulate", your foe wins.  
    But this is indeed a classic phyrric victory.  What does (s)he win?
    
    You are enabling your foe to stockpile a karmic debt of incredible 
    proportions - by not doing anything.  By non-confrontation, by turning
    aside you will strengthen yourself - and cause the downfall of your
    foe in the next time around.
    
1642.2DSSDEV::GRIFFINPractice random kindness and senseless acts of beautyWed Mar 18 1992 15:5522
Re: .1

Thanks.  That kind of coincides with some information from a reading I did for
myself last night:  drop my defenses, become wide open.  And you're right:
it will be a tough, perhaps the toughest, thing to do.  Many of the defenses
were built up without my conscious knowledge, so even I don't know their full
extent.  Oooh, I think the panic (at the thought of defenselessness) is starting 
to rise already ;-)

This is kind of odd though.  I caught some of the _On Homecoming_ shows on a
local PBS station the other weekend, where Bradley talks about visualizing the
child within (that is you), and visualizing a protector (which is also you) for
the child.  The child has no need of defenses, for the protector defends.  So,
in a way, my defenses become "controlled" by one outside of me.  It is kind of
a shift of focus for me, because several years ago, *I* was the protector, asked
to murder the child at my feet (I didn't, but chose to defend instead).  I
realized even then that the child was me.  So, now it is time to "be" the child
rather than the protector.

Am I making sense?

Beth
1642.3Don't panicMRKTNG::MILLETTWed Mar 18 1992 16:5516
    Hmmmm.  Don't know if the best course of action is to "become wide
    open".... Drop your defenses - ok.  But I would still use common
    sense and protect myself.  I think there's a difference between not
    continuing the struggle and actively inviting destruction.  Perhaps
    it is that fine line that you might want to meditate on.
    
    Don't know what kind of "reading" you did for yourself last night, but
    the runes might be able to guide you on appropriate action that a Spiritual
    Warrior would take in this instance.
    
    This is a particularly difficult path that you are on.  Not many would
    be presented with something this arduous. Being presented with this is 
    an indication of the strength of your power and abilities. 
    
    Use them wisely.
    
1642.4DSSDEV::GRIFFINPractice random kindness and senseless acts of beautyWed Mar 18 1992 17:5719
Re: .3

Thanks for the support.  I do understand what you mean about defenses though.


I read Tarot cards.  I have done runic stones, but I'm not as comfortable/
knowledgable with them yet.  I still have to look up the symbols.  Cards are
almost too instantaneous, and I can use them to refine the information given
(and sometimes they refuse to tell me anything about the topic in question :-).


Ever get the feeling you could really call down lightning?  I just lack a proper
target ;-)  But that's why I LOVE storms.  Almost all are energizing, 
revitalizing.

Thanks again.

Beth
1642.5GIAMEM::ROSEThu Mar 19 1992 02:2917
    re: .0
    
    Beth,
    
    Have you considered getting in touch with Sylvia Brown, the psychic
    mentioned in note 1640.0?
    
    Sylvia made a live appearance on a Boston TV show earlier this year.
    She was very impressive.  Her readings, which she's able to give over
    the telephone, are expensive - I think she said the cost was about
    $200.  When an audience member asked how long such a reading lasted,
    she replied, "As long as it takes."
    
    She had a paperback (written with Antoinette May) published in 1991
    and entitled, "Adventures Of A Psychic."
    
    Virginia
1642.6Cheaper and better than Sylvia31294::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureThu Mar 19 1992 10:3516
    re: .5 (Virginia)
    
        Sylvia Brown lives here in the South Bay (San Jose area of
    California.)  She's been around for quite a while (publically.)
    I've seen her on tv and heard about her lots.  She has a great
    personality and is fun and entertaining; HOWEVER, if it were my
    $200, there are sources of information far more accurate and
    informative than Sylvia Brown.
        If it's psychic information that you want (as opposed to help
    with some emotional issue, say...) and the phone doesn't bother you
    (it shouldn't) then try Michael (there is an earlier note about him--
    2 years ago) at 415-753-3393 (channeled by Fred Hyslop [pronounced
    "Hi-slip"]) or Tora at 818-996-2020 (channeled by Shaun Randall.)
    
    Frederick
    
1642.7DSSDEV::GRIFFINPractice random kindness and senseless acts of beautyThu Mar 19 1992 12:409
Frederick,

Do you know their rates?

Thanks.

And thanks to others (I've gotten some response offline as well).

Beth
1642.8Michael row the bode a-sure.31294::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureThu Mar 19 1992 14:2814
    re: .7 (Beth)
    
         Michael was getting $50 for the first 45 minutes and $1/min
    thereafter.  I think I once knew what Tora got, but I've since 
    forgotten.  These rates have a way of changing, anyway, but that
    should be a ball-park figure.
         I talked with Michael for almost 90 minutes and it was more
    than enough.  The last 15 minutes or so I was really dragging because
    of the effort to assimilate all that he had been saying to me.
    So, if the experience with Sylvia is similar, Sylvia would be 
    twice as expensive.
    
    Frederick