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1565.1 | Ground control to station 1... | MISERY::WARD_FR | Making life a mystical adventure | Mon Oct 21 1991 11:56 | 7 |
| re: .0 (Paula)
There is a note about Silva Mind Control (somewhere within
the first 500 notes, I think.) Note 1000 has a directory.
Frederick
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1565.2 | welcome!! | ENABLE::glantz | Mike @TAY 227-4299 TP Eng Littleton | Mon Oct 21 1991 12:04 | 3 |
| Wow, Budapest!!! Egesegere!
- Mike (galiziano, not really magyar)
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1565.3 | | COMICS::BELL | The haunted, hunted kind | Mon Oct 21 1991 12:30 | 12 |
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Re .0 (Paula)
Have a look at #110.* ... it's a little out of date but some of the people
are still around ...
> I've been learning the methods for 2 years and the more I
> deal with it, the more interested I'm.
Out of interest, did you learn from a book (ISBN no?) or a course ?
Frank (who hasn't tried either ... yet :-)
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1565.4 | Looking for verification of benefits ... | DWOVAX::STARK | Priorities confuse the mind | Mon Oct 21 1991 16:15 | 19 |
| I only know of it from the published books, but I wasn't able to
duplicate any of the more interesting reputed effects with my
limited understanding of the methods from my reading.
I also was disappointed that someone who came into my Aikido club
a while back and claimed a fair degree of mastery of pain control
using Silva Mind Control methods was unable to demonstrate that
control in the situation of pain techniques. One could argue that
this is not a fair test. However I *do* have a teachable pain control
mind skill that *does* work for this application. So at best, I could say
that either the claimant did not have the level of skill they claimed,
or that that particular skill is not as general purpose as the claimant
believed. In either case, I formed a negative impression of the
practical benefits of the method for my own purpose. I'd be interested
in revisiting it if someone else has a similar Silva method,
particularly for pain control or similar skills applicable to martial arts
practice.
todd
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1565.7 | Good point, but not quite that simple | DWOVAX::STARK | Priorities confuse the mind | Tue Oct 22 1991 13:25 | 23 |
| re: .5,
It depends on the application, Marcos. In competitive
martial arts practice, and generally in training, you wish
to acknowledge the application of a submission technique,
and then move on to the next round or the next drill.
In that case, the technique would be applied very sparingly
so that you are not injured. Some joint locks and nerve techniques
are more likely to result in injury than others. Some generally do very
little in the way of extended damage, unless your counter is
extremely radical. Many Aiki locks are particularly of this nature
because they work in the natural direction of joints, rather
than opposing them, and use a multi-joint commutative
principle to stretch and control a number of things at once rather than
focusing pressure on a delicate joint.
Also, in 'combatives', there is a need to work against a pain hold
or joint lock in spite of the pain, because the opponent's
next move is to kill you, which is much worse than even
a protracted rehabilitation. If your mind is taken by the
pain, you cannot defend yourself from the finishing movement(s),
so pain control is an essential part of the counter.
todd
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