Conference hydra::dejavu

    
    I don't have anything to add to this, but it sounds fascinating.  Do
    you have an address for the foundation, Marcos?
    
    Carole

    From Gale Research Inc.'s 1989 Encylopedia of Associations (a standard
    reference source found in most libraries) p600:

	6578 - METASCIENCE FOUNDATION (Parapsychology)(MSF)
	c/o MetaScience Annual
	Box 32				Phone:(401)294-2414
	Kingston, RI 02881		Marc Seifer, Dir.

	Founded: 1976. Members: 1600. Staff: 6. Budget: Less than $25,000.
	Public and university libraries, parapsychologists, doctors,
	physicists, and New Age laypersons.  To explore and develp, by use
	of scientific methods, all areas usually neglected by mainstream
	science.  These areas of study include futurology, telepathy,
	precognition, psychokinesis, synchoronicity, UFOs, holistic
	medicine, astrology, graphology, tarot, the multidimensionality of
	time, and the quantum physics of consciousness.  Conductes
	seminars.  Maintains library of 200 parapsychology journals, texts
	and biographical data entries.  Committees: Parapsychology; Quantum
	Physics and Consciousness.  Publications: MetaScience Annual
	(includes indes); also publishes Journal of Occult Studies and
	monographs.  Formerly: (1979) Occult Studies Foundation.
	Convention/Meeting: annual -- always January, Narragansett, RI.

    Note that despite several mentions of parpsychology etc., they are
    unaffiliated with the Parapsychological Association, and, as far as
    I know, no one intimately associated with this organization is a
    member of the PA and I have never seen anything published in any of the
    peer review parapsychology journals with MetaScience foundation listed
    as the author's affiliation.  I *think* I have seen an issue of the
    Journal of Occult Studies and, unless I have confused it with something
    else, it failed to impress me -- the articles in it seemed to me to be
    neither good science nor good occultism.

    Also note that "futurology" -- at least as the term is normally defined
    -- is an accepted (if not universally respected) part of mainstream
    science/ engineering.

    My guess is that the "screen" being discussed is a "visual Raudive"
    device either similar to or identical to the one which was discussed
    here fairly recently.

				Topher

RE: .4 (Marcos)

    The recent discussion was in note 1424.0.  I have added a keyword
    "Raudive" marking this note.

				    Topher

    The name Seifer rings a faint bell as one of the presenters at the
    Tesla Con.  Let me check (if a recall) this weekend.
    
    thanks
    dwp

  
  Re -.1 (Marcos)
  
  > ... a TV camera is put in front of a TV monitor ...
  
  Reflections of people [in the room] in the glass of the monitor being
  video'd ? (ie., not being recorded by any of the other VCRs as the images
  are never broadcast - they are a purely visual artifact that cannot be
  detected by anything other than a camera at precisely the point of the
  experimental one). Just a thought ...
  
  Frank

    Yep, same Dr Seifer.
    
    From a booklet on Tesla:
    
    	... a doctoral dissertation written for
    		Saybrook Institute
    		1772 Vellejo St
    		San Francisco, CA
    		94123
    
    The booklet is small extract fron the dissertation.
    
    fwiw
    
    thanks
    dwp

    Hmmm,
    
    	Isn't this rather like leaving a tape recorder recording in a
    sealed room, along with a source of white noise (e.g. untuned TV set)
    and later discovering faint "voices" which were not produced from the
    white-noise source - i.e. as if inducing random-interference in a
    recording medium experiment allows faint, otherwise un-noticed sources
    of visual/audio effects to manifest.
    
    	Just wondering...
    
    								- JIM CAD*

    >a white-noise source - i.e. as if inducing random-interference in a
    >recording medium experiment allows faint, otherwise un-noticed sources
    >of visual/audio effects to manifest.
    
    Physicists into Chaos theory call this the Strange Attractor.
    
    karl, whose personal_name is purely Occidental

    This should help solve murder crimes.
    
    Jamie.

    
    	As remarkable as the abilities of these "dead" are, they also are
    still unable in the afterlife to properly program the VCR's involved
    in these experiments or to make the flashing zeroes go away! ;>)! 
    
    BillM

    Re .13

    >August 24, 1990

    Not much progress seems to have been made on it in the last 5 years.

    Jamie.

    Interesting, Marcos.  Thanks for remembering us after such a long time!

    
    	Re: 16
    
    	Yeah, Jamie, but what's 5 years to spirits that have no concept
    of time!
    
    BillM

    >	Yeah, Jamie, but what's 5 years to spirits that have no concept
    >of time!
    
    However one would expect Radio Shack to be sold out of diodes by this time.
    
    Jamie.

    
    	There once was a ghost to went to Radio Shack
    	So that, to his widow, he could talk back.
    
    	Being cashless, he chose to pay on credit instead,
    	But missed the sign, "No service for the dead."
    
    	Refusing the ghost's card at the head of the line,
    	Said the clerk who'd been recently hired,
    	"I'm sorry, sir, your credit is fine!"
    	"But it's not your Visa that's expired!"
                                                          

    
    Catchy, Bill.  (;^)
    
    Cindy

    
    		There once was an agency of spies,
    
    		Who, to the taxpayer's, lied,
    
    		They called it, "remote viewing",
    
    		But, if you're a taxpayer,suing,
    
    		It seems more like a scr#wing!
    
    			My!  My!           Billm

    
    Your talents are severely underutilized here, Bill.  (;^)
    
    Cindy

    
    
    
    		There once was a laddie from DEC,
    		Who had a vice called, "Becks",
    
    		The more that he poured them,
    		The less that he bored them,
    
    		But, it's bad for his liver and sex!
    
    		He spent so much time,
    		Being witty with rhymes,
    
    		That, his boss, with a whip,
    		Left in his cube, a pink slip!
    
    		Now, he's off to commit some more crimes!        BillM