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    sounds simple to me..... mind your master... the opposite of master
    baiting.
    ;^)

    Well, since someone broke the ice, I don't feel as stupid
    taking a wild guess.  :-)  The closest thing I can think of
    is Master-Thinking, Edward deBono's name for his problem
    solving and creative thinking system.  Somehow I don't
    suppose that was what .0 was referring to, though.

           
    I received a mail reply to this note and have the author's permission 
    to enter his/her reply to this conference as an anonymous entry.  
    
    PS - Cindy, thanks for replying to .1, I was looking for a polite
         response. 
    
    Eric
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I just came across a book called 'Think and Grow Rich' (by Napoleon Hill,
first published in 1960) in our libraries book exchange. I don't know if this
is even related to your question in the notes file, but here is what he
describes:

     The "Master Mind" may be defined as: "Coordination of knowledge and
  effort, in a spirit of harmony, between two or more people, for the
  attainment of a definite purpose."

     No individual may have great power without availing himself of the
  "Master Mind." In a preceding chapter, instructions were given for the
  creation of plans for the purpose of translating desire into its monetary
  equivalent. If you carry out these instructions with persistence and
  intelligence, and use discrimination in the selection of your "Master
  Mind" group, your objective will have been half-way reached, even before you
  begin to recognize it.

     So you may better understand the intangible potentialities of power
  available to you, through a properly chosen "Master Mind" group, it 
  explains the two characteristics of the master Mind principle, one of which
  is economic in nature, and the other psychic. The economic feature is
  obvious. Economic advantages may be created by any person who surrounds
  himself with the advice, counsel, and personal cooperation of a group of men
  {note, this was published in 1960} who are willing to lend him wholehearted
  aid, in a spirit of perfect harmony. This form of cooperative alliance has
  been the basis of nearly every great fortune. Your understanding of this
  great truth may definitely determine your financial status.

     The psychic phase of the Master Mind principle is much more difficult to
  comprehend. You may catch a significant suggestion from this statement: "No
  two minds ever come together without, thereby, creating a third, invisible,
  intangible force which may be likened to a third mind."

     The human mind is a form of energy, a part of it being spiritual in
  nature. When the minds of two people are coordinated in a spirit of harmony,
  the spiritual units of energy of each mind form an affinity, which
  constitutes the "psychic" phase of the Master Mind.

     The Master Mind principle, or rather the economic feature of it, was
  first called to my attention by Andrew Carnegie, more than fifty years ago.
  Discovery of this principle was responsible for the choice of my life's
  work.

     Mr. Carnegie's master Mind group consisted of a staff of approximately
  fifty men, with whom he surrounded himself, for the definite purpose of
  manufacturing and marketing steel. He attributed his entire fortune to the
  power he accumulated through this "Master Mind."

    ....

Anyway, it goes on and on on this stuff. I have no opinion regarding this, I
just happened to see the book and decided to browse through it.

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    Re.5  
    
    Hi Eric,
    
    Actually .1 made me grin - I should have added a happy face to .4 - I'm
    certain that .1 truly wasn't written as a putdown or to be unpolite.  
    And at the moment, given all that's going on in the world, we desperately 
    need some comic relief.  As Alan Alda wrote in a Reader's Digest
    article once, "When people are laughing, they're generally not killing 
    one another." 
    
    Anyway, back to the book - there is a book entitled "Master Game" which
    also may be of interest.  I don't know the author though.  Do a
    dir/title=master in this conference - someone may have entered a topic
    on it.
    
    Cindy

    re: .5
    
    "The Master Game" is topic 932.
    
    Joel
    

RE: .0

Sorry for the delay in answering, I'm just catching up on my reading.

I have had some limited experience with a process called "Masterminding".
It is taught and practiced by the Church of Religious Science (don't know
if there are more than one of these churches around or not ... I only know
of one in Huntington Beach, California).  It would be considered a
_New Age_ church.

The process is done by yourself or (better yet) with a couple of other people,
by calling forth your Higher Self and ATI.  You then make a specific intention
("I want to be making $1,000,000 a year in salary by my 40th birthday"  <:-) ).
Intentions are either material or spiritual.  There are then specific words 
spoken by you and the others participating which confirm that you will 
achieve this intention and that you have the support of ATI.  The idea is
that there is exponential _power_ in numbers.

I've only participated a couple of times and the sessions were lead by 
a friend who is studying to be a Church of Religious Science practicioner.
They are quit inspiring and empowering.  However I have only had "success"
when I unintentionally (pun intended) Masterminded with some other friends.
My intuition tells me that making an intention and **believing** that it
will happen is all that is really necessary.  The other part is just  a
formality.

Hope this helps.

Susan

    re: .7 (Susan)
    
         Hi, Susan!  Fancy meeting you in here....!
    
    
    
    Frederick
    

    Susan - 
    
    You're quite right in your statement that intention and belief are
    really enough in Science of Mind terms...the rest is not necessary.  It 
    sometimes helps to reinforce the belief, though.  :-)
    
    Nanci    

    A good companion study to Masterminding might be found in the book
    _Empowerment_ by Straub and Gershon.  I believe Masterminding is 
    a very powerful technique but runs into problems when it runs into
    UNconscious beliefs we hold about ourselves that are not positive.
    
    For example if I were to consciously intend by way of Masterminding
    that I will make say $200K in two years, but I have an unconscious
    belief that I don't deserve, then the Masterminding technique will 
    not work until I  1) become aware of the unconscious belief and,  
    2) transform it to something more positive.  I think this is the key
    that allows techniques such as Masterminding to be successful.
    
    _Empowerment_ offers ways in which to explore and discover unconscious 
    beliefs and approaches on how to transform them, then follows with
    techniques that are similar to masterminding.
    
    Best wishes!
    
    Karen
               

    re: .10, Karen,
    
    	I haven't read _Empowerment_, but I wholeheartedly agree with
    	that concept.  Achieving what we want has a neccessary prerequisite
    	of finding out what that really is, including what may be 
    	buried in the shadows at the moment.  I think that's where some of
    	the more superficial positive-thinking type philosophies may
    	sometimes go astray, they make the assumption that what we think
    	we want on the surface is what we want at all levels of our psyche, 
    	while we are actually often in unconscious conflict with ourselves.
    
    	"no we're not !"
    
    		"yes we are !"
    
    	"no we're not !"
    
    	Or maybe it's just me that has that problem. :-)
    
    		Todd

    Todd_y .9,
    
    > I think that's where some of the more superficial positive-thinking
    type philosophies may sometimes go astray, they make the asumption that
    what we think we want on the surface is what we want at all levels of
    our psyche, while we are actually often in unconscious conflict with
    ourselves. <
    
    Yes I agree.  Come to think of it, Gary Zukav's _The Seat of The Soul_
    would also be an excellent addition to the masterminding technique, 
    as a good deal of it is devoted to the state of fragmentation that
    Zukav proposes most human beings exist in.  It is this fragmentation 
    that leads to the conscious and not-so-conscious conflicts within 
    ourselves.
    
    Karen

    re: .12, kb,
    
>    as a good deal of it is devoted to the state of fragmentation that
>    Zukav proposes most human beings exist in.  It is this fragmentation 
    
    I haven't read that one either.  I feel like such an illiterati today. :-)
    
    Just out of curiosity, which fragmentation does Zukav seem to be
    referring to most ?
    
    	todd_y

    Yes, Kb, I second Seat of the Soul and the Empowerment workbook - two
    on my favorite top 10 list (that is if I could limit my all-time
    favorite books to 10!).
    
    Ro
    

    Todd_y,
    
    Zukav focuses primarily, or perhaps even exclusively, on the
    fragmentation of the human psyche -- different aspects of ourselves
    which have different wants and needs, and the conflicts which can
    result.
    
    Ro,
    
    They also appear in my Top 10 list!  :-)
    
    --Kb 

        And thanks to Ro's generosity, I have been able to see things
    in a different light, therefore I, too, have "masterminded" my
    reality...
    
    Frederick
    

	Say WHAT?.....    Frederick?
    

	????

    re: .17 (Mikki) and .16 (me)
    
          Well, all I wanted to say is that I'm grateful to her
    for lending me her Walt Disney eyeglasses...now I have a new vision...
    you see, I have a new lease on life because
    
    
          I see things through
                    *Ro's colored glasses!*
    
    
    Frederick
    

    GROAN!!!!
    
    :-)
    
    Nanci

    Frederick,
    
    I gotta hand it to you on this one...   ;^)
    
    Joel
    

	that is cute...Freddie

	Mikki