| Title: | Psychic Phenomena |
| Notice: | Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing |
| Moderator: | JARETH::PAINTER |
| Created: | Wed Jan 22 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Tue May 27 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 2143 |
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For several years, I have had this recurring dream:
I dream that I have an infant (I'm too old). This infant is so good,
it never cries. Since it never cries, I never feed it. I always wake
up just when I panic and realize that the child will starve if I don't
feed it. This is strange to me because I love infants. (I took care
of foster children for an adoption agency from birth to adoption.)
One dream I had was different. I tried to feed this child, but as in
all dreams, nothing went right. The formula was wrong, the nipple was
wrong, it was too hot, too cold, you name it. I was in a state of
panic when I woke up.
I have a daughter (adopted) who was so good growing up, that I felt she
was perfect. Never asked for anything. Did anything for me. Then,
during her senior year in High School, she changed. After school, she
went to work in Boston. She met a boy who used her and hurt her and
dragged her down. My latest dream was when she was at her lowest
point (moved out, turned away from her family, etc).
Finally, I convinced her to get help. I felt she needed to get a
higher opinion of herself. I told her that she shouldn't allow any boy
to treater her this way, that she was too good a person. She finally
agreed and went to counselling. She is now back with us, and almost
back to her "old self".
The last dream I had was that the child was standing up in the crib,
crying and I was able to feed it a bottle. It was the best feeling.
I told this to her counsellor (stating that I'm probably crazy) and he
assured me that I wasn't crazy, that it was very interesting -- and it
was the only thing that I said during the session that he wrote down.
I haven't had this dream since (but it has only been since February).
Am I crazy?
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| 1313.1 | re.0 | ASABET::F_SPINNEY | Wed Jul 18 1990 12:29 | 16 | |
oh heavens, no...you're not crazy at all, in fact I think
that your mind and heart are finally at peace with the sitaution
concerning your daughter. I tsounds to me that the dreams of
not feeding the child may have been your minds way of coping with
your feeling of helplessness when you could not get through to
your daughter to get help.. The last dream where you are at
last able to feed the baby and the baby accepts the food may
be your minds way of interpreting that you were at last able to
get through to your daughter that she needed couceling and the
feeding may be sort of symbolic of the help that you have been
at last able to "feed" her with and whihc she has accepted.
sincerely
Fay
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| 1313.2 | give yourself a pat on the back | BTOVT::BEST_G | The unbearable likeness of beans | Wed Jul 18 1990 15:26 | 13 |
I don't think you're crazy....
I wonder if the child in your dreams wasn't your *inner* child
wanting to be nurtured - or at least you wanted to nurture IT.
Maybe there was something holding you back from doing that and
it took the example of the situation with your *real* daughter
in the *outer* world for you to release whatever was holding you
back.
At any rate, this seems like a very healthy thing to have happened.
guy
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| 1313.3 | further research at your fingertips... | JURAN::GARDNER | justme....jacqui | Thu Jul 19 1990 11:02 | 14 |
To the basenote author,
You might be interested in adding RANGER::WOMANNOTES-V3 to your
notebook and check out the adoption triad topic. There is a
private conference for people involved in the triad that might
explain and be quite helpful to you and your daughter in under-
standing what is going on for her. I can't remember what the
topic number is but send a note to the moderators of that
conference and they will be more than glad to help put you in
touch.
Good luck with your journey.
justme....jacqui
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| 1313.4 | .2 | JAIMES::MARTIN | Thu Jul 19 1990 14:30 | 2 | |
Please explain *inner* child.
Millie
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| 1313.5 | A fundamental process... | MISERY::WARD_FR | Going HOME--as an Adventurer | Thu Jul 19 1990 15:19 | 76 |
re: .4 (Millie)
This was covered at least in one note "long ago" in here somewhere
but I'm not sure where to find it so perhaps its worth recalling here
just the same.
This term or concept was popularized by the branch of psychology
known as Transactional Analysis. In TA (not the tv term ;-) )
there is an acknowledged understanding that things "happened" in our
childhoods and our adolescences. These things too often created
or manifested beliefs, attitudes, feelings, etc. which had what are
held to be negative outcomes. How do we let go of the feeling we
have as a result of a traumatic event that happened when we were
six years old, for example? Talking about it is a start.
Unfortunately, most people "forget" lots of things or color the
reality in a manner which makes the expression difficult at best.
TA uses role-playing. One "pretends" that they are back there at
that time and then describes the situation in order to help
release it. Sometimes the therapist suggests things in order to
help change the awareness or perception of the event.
HOWEVER, in the view of Lazaris, and probably others, that
reality is not just a memory. It is very real. TA does not
acknowledge time/space as now. It only treats memory as now.
Lazaris has stated that because time/space are concurrent, that
that child and adolescent are every bit as real as we are (although
obviously in a different time.) It is that disturbed part of
ourself that continues to mess up our reality. For us whose
childhoods had difficulties (and that's everyone I know) this
child is putrified. So is the adolescent. IT is NOT the free
child nor free adolescent. It has been the disruptive child and
the rebellious adolescent who have been jabbing us in our sides
as we try to act like adults (actually, we act more as "grown-ups"
than as adults.)
So, how is this situations remedied or rectified? Actually,
quick simply and absolutely effectively (based on my experience
and the experiences of countless others.) Meditation is the
easiest and most direct way. Why or how so? Because via meditation
one can "slip" time and space, alter their energy and get in there
in between the cracks of time and space. In there, the child and
the adolescent (and lots more beyond the scope of this entry)
can be readily found. In there, they can be observed, talked to
and helped. Remember, as one goes in there, they have the unique
opportunity to approach their child within or their adolescent
within AS THEIR FUTURE. As their future, you offer "living proof"
that they survived. You can give them anything they want...let me
stress this...you can give them ANYTHING they want (after all, it's
your meditation :-) ) and EVERYTHING they want. This includes
new situations, new parents, toys, friends, homes, etc. You can
go in there and relive a particular experience only THIS time you,
the future you to the child or adolescent, the present you, can
step in and stop that hand that is about to strike or can tell that
person off for emotionally abusing that vulnerable child, etc.
Is this real? It appears that it is just as real as any other
past we hold onto. There are numerous events that most of us could
recall that have changed over the years. One time we recall black
couches, another time we remember that they weren't couches at all
but rather covered chairs, another we remember yet something else.
Which was real? WE are the ones who hold onto the past. We can
let go of the past if we want to. But, the point here is, if we
let go of a painful past without having properly released it, it
comes back to haunt us. But by going in and giving that past us
inside a DIFFERENT past, we not only confront or encounter the
situation but we can generate a different past to hold onto. If
the child no longer has the charge on it, he/she won't be screaming
in our daily ears complaining about it.
Anyway, this is a brief outline of what it is. It works, it
works, it works. In terms of holding onto the past, these are the
dynamics at play. Another approach would be to wipe out the past
and latch onto the future to pull into (but then this is virtually
identical to the way our child within's future--us--is able to access
them.) There are many many intricacies here, but from a functional
standpoint, it is not important to know how it works. Just accept
that it does and then do it. Again, it isn't the only way, just
the easiest, quickest and most direct.
Frederick
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