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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1300.0. "MICHAEL--as channeled by Fred H. in San Francisco" by MISERY::WARD_FR (Going HOME--as an Adventurer) Tue Jul 03 1990 14:17

       Last week I scheduled an appointment for myself to speak
    with MICHAEL, as channeled by a man who lives in San Francisco
    by the name of Fred H. (last name left out deliberately here.)
       I met Fred about 6 years ago, or so.  We even had lunch
    once with two women...but I never knew about his channeling
    activities until one or two years ago.  It seems as though he
    started channeling perhaps ten years ago and has done it sporadically
    throughout the period, laying off it for a while and is now
    once again doing it more "seriously."  Throughout this period of
    time Fred has been a very involved person with Lazaris (our common
    ground.)  
       Michael is a composite energy, so I've been told, of various 
    entities...the details I don't have.   There are other similar energies
    which have named themselves Michael (see note 115) but according 
    to Fred, he has read many "Michael books" and he doesn't think they
    are anything alike (in terms of information, I believe.)  About
    six months ago, the woman with whom I have had a primary relationship
    with for over three years, had a session with him.  The results
    she got seemed pretty good.  A few weeks ago, while we were all
    attending a Lazaris Intensive, Fred channeled Michael very quickly
    to provide Dana with some information that she was "stuck" (blocked)
    on from the work we were doing.  I was impressed with that brief
    information (which seemed very valid) that was provided to her.
       So last week I talked with Michael ($50 for 45 minutes---$1
    per minute thereafter) for an hour and a half.  I was very pleased
    with the information (although not too thrilled with some of the
    truths I had to face  ;-) )  I had initially wanted to know more
    about some of "my issues" (such as my bottom-line, personal myth
    and dark law, along with help in problems with the afore-mentioned
    relationship, and other things) but wound up talking about some
    of the "steps to getting there" (e.g., shame.)  I will not go into
    further details as they are more personal than I care to share
    at this point and won't prove much to anyone else anyway.  I
    *will* say, though, that he seemed to be pretty much on the mark
    and had lots of good insights, as best as I can tell.  And I will
    be working on the issues thanks to his input. 
        Can I recommend him?  You bet.  How would I compare him to 
    Ophelia (see note 1088)?  I'd say he has valid points to make,
    of the "fill-in the blanks" variety while she stayed more with
    what I wanted (at that time it was to work with my child and
    adolescent within) and didn't deviate from that much.  In other
    words, each of them gave me what I wanted from them at the time
    I asked for it.  Ophelia sounds somewhat different from Liz
    (her channel) while it's very difficult to tell Michael from Fred
    (in voice, at least.)  Both are very pleasant and warm.  I plan
    to speak to each of them again sometime fairly soon (within six
    months.)  So maybe on subsequent talks I can learn more.
        I told Fred about this note and he said he thought it was
    great but wanted Michael's input about it before he says anything.
    So, until such time as he offers his phone number, etc., I won't
    publicly divulge his particulars.  If, however, anyone has an
    interest, let me know and I will individually provide you with
    access (which Fred has approved of.)
        
    
    Frederick
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1300.1procrastination is my middle nameSCARGO::FAULKNERgetting a clueTue Jul 03 1990 15:1716
    
    
    hi fred ... wow ... i was just going to ask whether the info from
    ophelia or michael made the most sense to you ... i guess it was what
    you were ready for in each case ... i'm still wanting to talk to
    ophelia, but, as i was telling mikki, the only time i think of it is at
    work and i can't call her from here (maybe i don't want to as much as i
    thought???) ... anyway, i do think i'll gain some valuable insight when
    and if i ever get around to remembering in the right spot at the right
    time.  when i do i'll let you (y'all) know how it went... but, don't
    hold yer breath  ;')  
    
    btw, what did you, fred h. and the "two women" have for lunch???  
    
    janice fbf
1300.2What did you eat today?MISERY::WARD_FRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerTue Jul 03 1990 16:0419
    re: .1 (Nice-ja)
    
         And all this time I thought your middle name was something else
    (procrastination=furrbutt?)   ;-)
    
         Yeah, that's sort of it...it being that the timing and what you
    want have lots to do with it.  When it's right, it is.  We set
    ourselves up for either the positive OR the negative.
         What did we have for lunch?  Well, I'd like to say something
    that might not get appreciated but it wouldn't be true anyway, so 
    why start me ?  :-)  But I *do* remember it was at Mrs. Candy's,
    the restaurant inside the Hyatt Regency at the Embarcadero, and that
    I had either a nice salad or a big burger.  Fred was very funny
    (he used to be compared a bit to Steve Martin cause he looks a bit
    like him...but I think he wanted to get away from that connection)
    and the women were/are desirable, what else can I tell you?  8-)
    
    Frederick
1300.3an afterthoughtSCARGO::FAULKNERgetting a clueTue Jul 03 1990 16:5333
    
    
    oh, when i went to see the walk-ins back in 19 ot 87 ... just before
    you introduced me to Lazaris ... they channeled michael, too, not
    necessarily the same one ... guess it's a fairly common name ;')
    
    you forgot to tell me how you had your burger cooked and what dressing
    on your salad |^) ... i'm just being 'cheeky' as my husband would say
    
    anyway, i recently got a tape by Lazaris called "stop feeling not good
    enough" and this one really spoke to me ... one of my bottom lines is
    shame, and it seemed that all the above (martyr, victim, self-pity,
    etc.) were my blocks ... and i'm really not a bad person (i know
    that), but i have that shadow and i'm pretty sure now that's my real
    bottom line, underlying the shame ... and the shame is not being good
    enough because i'm not a boy ... my father preferred my brothers after
    they were born and i felt like a reject ... i've found the processing
    and meditations in this tape most helpful and highly recommend it to
    those of you who can't quite figure out which hang-up(s) are yours ...
    if you think they all are, then probably you have a not good enough
    feeling lurking somewhere (Lazaris says everyone has the feeling to
    varying degrees) .. it goes beyond affirmations ... reciting i am good
    enough, i do deserve, etc. to face the emotion, feel it, realize how
    you got it, reasons this no longer applies, etc..  i'm very excited
    about how i've been feeling lately (since the sirius intensive) and
    from working with this tape.  
    
    i know i got off on a tangent, but what the hey!!  ;-)
    
    have a fun 4th everyone!!
    
    janice  (fred lies ... i don't really have a furr-butt) |'D
1300.4Wanted: Lazaris tapeNSDC::SCHILLINGWed Jul 04 1990 05:008
    
    How could one approach aquiring the tape "Stop feeling not good
    enough"? 
    When I read the title, I thouht "I'd love to, but...". Maybe Laz can
    give me the rap?  I'd be all ears @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!
    
    Paul
1300.5You just might find music for your heart...MISERY::WARD_FRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerThu Jul 05 1990 12:108
    re: .4 (Paul)
    
         There is a fairly recent Lazaris tape listing towards the 
    current end of note 406.  That note also lists phone numbers and
    address.  You could also check most metaphysical book stores.
        
    Frederick
1300.6oh, guess what!!!SCARGO::FAULKNERgetting a clueWed Jul 11 1990 13:4320
    
    
    re:  paul ... sorry to take so long to respond ... also, there's a 
    toll-free number for ordering Lazaris tapes:
    
                              1-800-678-2356
    
    and the name of the tape is "stop feeling not good enough"  ...
    enjoy it.
    
    
    fred ... well, i finally did it .. i called liz last night for an
    appointment to talk to Ophelia (another channeled being).  next
    wednesday at 5:00 EST  8'D   so, now i'm busy thinking of questions/
    issues i'd like some info on.  i'll let you all know how it went.
    
    
    bbfn
    fb janice
1300.7HeeheeheeheeSCARGO::PAINTERAnd on Earth, peace...Wed Jul 11 1990 15:4110
    
    Gee...a really strange thought just came to mind.
    
    What if Lazaris starts channelling Frederick?  
    
    I'd definitely pay for that experience.  (;^) 
    
    Forgive me, Freddie - I've been reading too much Dave Barry.
    
    Cindy
1300.8how can it be? :-)CARTUN::MISTOVICHWed Jul 11 1990 16:047
    re: last
    
    Cindy, Cindy, Cindy,
    
    there is no such thing as too much Dave Barry!!!
    
    mary
1300.9I have my own way of channeling, thanks...MISERY::WARD_FRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerThu Jul 12 1990 13:2732
    re: Cindy
    
         I have other ways of being in other people's bodies, if you don't
    mind...
    
         (said with straight-face, lest anyone think it lacking in aplomb)
    
    re: Janice
    
         Good!  (but it should be in Ophelia's note, not Michael's...;-) )
    Yes, I would be interested in hearing your experience.  As for
    questions, as a suggestion, don't expect fortune-telling and you'll
    be fine...state your situation and ask for a resolution that may
    work...be willing to work with core issues (usually these are issues
    from early in this lifetime) which means working with child/adolescent
    within...Ophelia does *not* go to the depth Lazaris does (neither
    does Michael.)  But both of them can, like Lazaris, see certain strong
    current energy patterns or "blips" which stand out.  Their help or
    reading will be a reflection of those energies.  
        I specifically asked Ophelia for help with my child/adolescent
    within and that was the basis for my talk with her.  With Michael,
    I asked for deeper truths and was told that I couldn't reach deeper
    until I resolved some issues which lie closer to the surface.  Lazaris
    would probably have told me the deep stuff but would have advised me
    to resolve it by utilizing/working on the surface stuff, which is a
    definite impediment.  Like a tossed stone, as long as the energy is
    moving laterally, it'll skim the surface, until once that energy is
    released...at which point it can sink into the depths, whereupon
    lie the treasures.
    
    Frederick
1300.10opheliaSCARGO::FAULKNERgetting a clueThu Jul 19 1990 14:487
    
    
    hi everyone ... i talked to ophelia last night and if you want to know 
    how it went the note is posted in 1088.19.  it was inspirational.
    
    janice
1300.11...and to get ahold of him, ...MISERY::WARD_FRGoing HOME---as an Adventurer!Mon Mar 25 1991 12:3611
         Fred told me, the last time I spoke with him (two weeks ago,)
    that it would be okay to print his phone number in here.
    
         So, here it is: (415) 753-0149.
    
         I still have respect for the information that has come via
    Michael, not only for myself, but for others who have spoken
    with him more recently.
    
    Frederick