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1276.1 | | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Fri Jun 08 1990 18:34 | 33 |
| "Mind reading" is a term which brings up images of cheap theatricals
and bad science fiction. "Telepathy" or "Thought Transference" are
perhaps better terms.
The EEG was invented to discover the electrical waves which the
inventor thought were the mechanism behind thought transference.
Basically, while it succeeded in finding electrical waves in the brain,
it can be shown that they are grossly insuffient for transfering
such highly structured information.
Furthermore, in contradiction to what would occur with some kind of
literal "mental radio", telepathy seems to be unaffected by electrical
shielding or by distance.
Many cases of apparent thought transference such as you describe are
adequately explained by the amazing deductive ability of the
subconscious. The subconscious can frequently figure out, on the basis
of past behavior, subtle body language cues, and context what someone
else is thinking or about to say. Of course, it is frequently wrong,
but we don't pay much attention when it gets it wrong -- only are
amazed when it gets it right.
However -- this is provably not sufficient to explain all cases of
apparent thought transference. The explanation is badly stretched in
many spontaneous cases, and is completely untenable in explaining
laboratory experiments where all such possible cues have been carefully
excluded.
So -- while some of the incidents you cite are probably *not* thought
transference, others quite likely are. And whatever causes it is not
electrical "brain waves."
Topher
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1276.2 | What was that you said? | AYOV18::TWASON | | Mon Jun 11 1990 04:10 | 20 |
| This same thing happened to me yesterday, and many times before.
My husband was setting up the video, and I was reading the newspaper,
and I heard him say something (or atleast I thought I had) but I
couldn't quite make it out - you know what it's like when you're
concentrating on something you can here things but can't quite make
them out, so I looked up and said "What did you say? I couldn't
hear you".
He looked at me astonished and said "I never said anything, but
what I was about to say was that I don't think this video is going
to work". This happens alot with us.
It also happened with someone I work with, I was standing behind
him at his desk and he turned round and looked at me about to say
something and I said to him "No, I don't know what I'm going to
get Fiona for a birthday present" his reply was "How did you know
that was what I was going to ask you".
Tracy
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1276.3 | <Reading Minds> | CSC32::T_SANDEFUR | | Tue Jun 12 1990 11:02 | 10 |
| Do not feel alone. I have the same experiences all the time, even with
people who are not close friends. My husband and I are on the same
wave length alot. For example last week, we had not talked all day
long, I left work and went to the grocery store to pick up a few things
for dinner, not knowing he was going also. He should up at the house
with the EXACT same groceries I had picked up, only from a different
store. I think it is a great gift to have. It is also fun to see the
expression on peoples face.
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1276.4 | dinner for two, for two.... ;-) | IJSAPL::ELSENAAR | Fractal of the universe | Tue Jun 12 1990 15:37 | 10 |
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> for dinner, not knowing he was going also. He should up at the house
> with the EXACT same groceries I had picked up, only from a different
> store.
Hm. Somewhere along the line, something went wrong, then.....
:-):-)
Arie
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1276.5 | <re:dinner for two> | CSC32::T_SANDEFUR | | Tue Jun 12 1990 16:35 | 7 |
| > for dinner, not knowing he was going aslo. He should up at the house
Opps! that should be... He came home with the exact same groceries I
had picked up earlier. (sorry for the phrasing)
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1276.6 | | WLDWST::MARTIN_T | | Tue Jun 12 1990 17:35 | 4 |
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Well,there must be a way one could control it at will.If it can
happen more then once then it can happen again and again
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1276.7 | What's Normal? | WMOIS::REINKE | Hello, I'm the Dr! | Wed Jun 13 1990 16:22 | 4 |
| What if the "natural" state is telepathy and the abnormal condition is
that we think we must speak to communicate?
DR
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1276.8 | Pointer | CGVAX2::PAINTER | And on Earth, peace... | Wed Jun 13 1990 18:31 | 6 |
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Re.6
Find someone and start practicing.
Cindy
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1276.9 | talk to the animals | CHET::MACDONALD | | Wed Jun 20 1990 13:37 | 4 |
| It can also be done with animals...non-verbal communication and it's
great!
MaryAnne
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1276.10 | Reading minds that you know well or KNEW well. | DPDMAI::BIRDS | | Wed Jun 27 1990 14:58 | 35 |
| There are so many differdnt avenues of thought regarding this one, is
it possible that we are more sensitive to people we knew in a past
life? Of course I am not saying that I am a firm believer of past life
but I am not a disbeliever either. Actually I think it is highly
feasible. I experience this quite often with friends and even
strangers but most of all with my mother. I can follow my mom into the
kitchen and tell her what she is going to get out (of a cupboard) and
it constantly blows her mind. We have made a sort of game out of it.
She is really into metaphysics, crystals, interpretations from (White
Eagle), Manly P. Hall and Lazarus (I mean the list goes on and on. She
is not really a (how should I say) ditzy woman, she is not into this
because of the ""GLAMOUR"" of a new thing but more for a research and
achievement of higher inner self, knowledge type of a deal. Back in
the summer of 1987, we went to Chesterfield, Indiana and had an aura
reading together (showing entities around us), we were told that we
were sisters or (check this) that I was her mother in a former life.
Our auras formed a ""mystic eight" and I was older than her. I don't
relly know how to explain in words how it was explained to me or how I
perceived it. Anyway we are from Cherokee Indian descent (only a
little) but we both had guardian angels and Indians that guided us on
our journey (which I'm not sure of what that is either). The whole
episode was very enlightening and all kinds of crazy stuff happened
right after that, I had an OOB experience (the only one) and I saw my
Guardian Angel-Straight Arrow. The whole thing was just crazy. Anyway
enough for now but regarding my mother, she ia a wonderful woman and I
feel very lucky to be her kid. Not really a kid anymore but you know
what I mean. Sorry I kind of rambled.
More later.
Suzie
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1276.11 | Flipped out | WMOIS::RAINVILLE | Messiah Wanted, Experienced! | Tue Jul 17 1990 02:05 | 20 |
| A long time ago (20 years) in an army far away, I had many traveling
adventures with someone who remains close inspite of 1000s of miles
and years between us. Often, in the course of our years together, we
had choices to make. Who got the window seat on the airplane...who
got to sleep in the front or back seat of the rental auto, who would
be first to climb the cliff or jump the motorcycle over an obstacle.
We settled these choices by flipping a coin. Not by calling it in the
air, but by flipping it, looking at it hidden from the other, then
telling him what it was. The challenge was to figure out if he was
telling the truth or lying, the counter-challenge to hold a poker face
thru all questions, psyche out the others' (50%) chance of being right.
This started while waiting for flights or for the road to unwind.
It got to the point where we could NOT fool each other. I've used
this technique since in games where a configuration is set up by one
player to be guessed by the other. Sometimes I've really been able
to spook onlookers, but never has the rapport been so tight as with
my traveling companion....mwr
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