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1214.1 | Israel Regarde and Alister Crowley | DNEAST::BERLINGER_MA | LIFE IN THE ASTRAL PLANE | Fri Feb 16 1990 12:39 | 29 |
| (re.0)
Marcia,
I've read only two books related to the study of the
Qabala. The first one was "A Garden of Pomegranates" by Israel Regarde;
the second one was a collection of essays by Alister Crowley entitled
"777 and Other Qabalistic Writings of Alister Crowley". Another book
which makes reference to the Qabala but is not too detailed is "Foun-
dations of Practial Magic" also written by Israel Regarde. "A garden
of Pomegranets" gives a beginer a solid over-view of the system with
some reference to letters and numbers. "777....." gives a more detailed
explination of Qabala including all (I think) the letters and numbers.
Israel Regarde was secretary to Alister Crowley for a while but
is very learned in the field himself. See previous base note for the
scoop on Crowley, but don't let the bad reports (however true) to
tarnish the wealth of information available from his book (ISBN 0-
87728-670 published by Samuel Weiser Inc.). I don't have either of
Regardes books to reference at the moment so I can't give the ISBN.
Both, I think, are printed by Lewellen Press Inc.
Hope this has helped,
Mark
P.S. contact me directly if I can give specific references. I have
the Crowley book with me now.
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1214.2 | pointer | LESCOM::KALLIS | Pumpkins -- Nature's greatest gift. | Fri Feb 16 1990 14:05 | 18 |
| Re .0 (Marcia):
>My son has to write a paper on Kabbalism (?) as a requirement for his
>confirmation class at Sunday School.
Wow! Whatta Sunday School!
Anyway, there are two thoughts. You might try Chapter Three of
Richard Cavendish's _Tghe Black Arts_, which gives a reasonable
overview. If he wants to dig (I don't know the deadline), you might
opt for a course in Qabbahlistic symbolism written by Gareth Knight
(the title, I think, is _A Practical Course in Qabbahlastic Symbolism_,
originally a two-volume set, though reissued as a single-volume
thick book).
Good hunting!
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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1214.3 | Regardie - G of Ps | CSCMA::PERRY | | Fri Feb 16 1990 14:33 | 11 |
| I would suggest "A Garden of Pomegranets" (pardon the spelling)
mentioned in .1
It is just a general overview and may be enough for a short paper.
If you want ISBN # and Llewellyn Adress...contact me directly (I
have the book at home)...I'll even lend it out to you if you are
in my area (central MA).
joe p
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1214.4 | A book *about* the Kabballa, rather than of it. | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Fri Feb 16 1990 15:36 | 23 |
| A.E. Waite has a most thorough scholarly book on the Kabballa. Unlike
most of the others mentioned (excellent though they be) it is not a
guide to how the Kaballa "fits into" his occult philosophy, but rather
an examination of the traditional sets of beliefs known as the
Kabballa. The book (whose title escapes me) is long, detailed, dry,
at times pompous, but otherwise well-written and quite fascinating.
The edition I have suffers from a printer with an exagerated need
to use ligatures -- which makes it a bit hard to read until you get
used to it.
Of course Waite has his biases and personal interpretations too, some
of which he is conscious enough of to state as such and some of which
he isn't. But the biases are a scholar's biasses rather than an
interpretters. I would recommend this above the others of those
suggested (at least those that I've read, which I *think* is all of
them -- I went through a period of interest in Kabballa about 20 years
ago), for this purpose. It's not the "best" or most interesting
book on the subject, but unless the topic is "Regardie's version of
the Kabballa" I think it should be preferred.
Contact me by mail if you would like to borrow my copy.
Topher
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1214.5 | Thanks/Let's talk Tree of Life | SAFETY::SLARSKEY | | Mon Feb 19 1990 08:27 | 17 |
| Thanks everyone for the help. I was at the N.H. Mall over the weekend
and found a book that should help. Also, went to "Insights" in Acton...
fascinating bookshop and an extrememly helpful owner.
The more information I get and "peruse" for my son the more I think he
might be in over his head for a sixteen year old. The topic is extensive
and involved...thought he might concentrate now on the Tree of Life,
although books could be written on just that subject alone.
It looks like the paper will be extrememly superficial in nature due to
the vast information and interpretations...
Any info on the Tree of Life subject...in a nutshell?
Thanks,
Marcia
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1214.6 | Just being nosey... | ATSE::WAJENBERG | Member, Lewis & Carrol Expedition | Mon Feb 19 1990 09:09 | 7 |
| As Steve said, What a Sunday School!
Did your son pick this topic, or was it assigned to him?
What Sunday School is this?
Earl Wajenberg
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1214.7 | The Mystery and Mystics of it all... | SAFETY::SLARSKEY | | Mon Feb 19 1990 10:50 | 17 |
| We are members of a reform temple (Congregation Shalom) in Chelmsford.
As part of the requirement for Sunday School confirmation, the kids have
to pick a relevant topic and write a research paper. There has been
several discussions and references to Kabbahla in class and the
"mystics" around the topic intrigued him. I really don't think he
realized how complicated this topic is. We have been desparately
helping him to pick a more "cut and dry" topic area...but as I said in a
previous note...nothing is "cut and dry" when discussing or writing
about Kabbahla. To be perfectly honest, I'm finding this topic
intriguing myself. He needs to put together and pass in a paper outline
in two weeks and right now he is in a bit of a panic mode. This is why
I have been trying to elicit help and direction from the notesfile.
Hoping that someone with more experience and knowledge in this area can
make suggestions.
Keep the ideas flowing and thanks for all the direction so far.
Marcia
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1214.8 | Go for breadth not depth. | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Mon Feb 19 1990 11:44 | 40 |
| RE: .7
OK. Let me even more strongly recommend *against* most of the sources
that have been cited so far. All are about *non-Jewish* Kabbahlaism;
i.e., the Kabbahlah has interpretted by non-Jews to fit their own
mystic philosophies, which are in turn heavily influenced specifically
by Christian theology (whether by acceptance or direct rejection of
some specific aspect). Waite would still be a good source (though
his own Christian and Post-Christian biases should be considered) *BUT*
he is *very* slow going.
What I recommend is an afternoon at the largest accessible library,
or several libraries, reading things like the appropriate entries in
Jewish and general Religious Encyclopedias. Don't try to find a single
authoritative source, but to find many different summaries having
different perspectives on the same complex phenomenon.
In addition to learning something about one of the two major
contrasting threads of Jewish thought (strongly underemphasized in most
Reformed, many Conservative and even some Orthodox systems of
education) another valuable lesson might be learned -- how to do
research. Encourage him to be creative. Have him write down lists
of topics to cross reference (not just the marked see also phrases
in an encyclopedia but what might be in *another* encyclopedia or
the index of a book). What subjects might conceivably have some
bearing and therefore some reference to the Kabballah? (Judaica
obviously, but also comparative religion, occultism, folklore,
medival history, modern history -- even things like film (i.e., the
classic of Yiddish stage and film, The Gollem)). How reliable is each
source? What are their biases? What contradictions can he find
between them? How likely is one source to be simply "borrowing"
from another, or both from the same third source, and therefore not
providing independent confirmation of a specific claim at all?
Make this a mother/son project if you can and you can help him learn
to explore and perhaps learn stuff yourself. There are few lessons
as valuable (nor as "Jewish") as how to do library research effectively
and creativly?
Topher
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1214.9 | How many ways to spell "it" | CSCMA::PERRY | | Mon Feb 19 1990 15:13 | 21 |
| T.C. is right...
The books mentioned above may be influenced by other than jewish
philosophy. It could be creative to mention briefly in the paper
how the Qabblah (hey, who's got the spelling right!!???) has found
its way into other areas of spirituality.
I would suggest (like TC) an encyclopedia or other kind of book
that gives generalities on the jewish version of Kabala.
How about looking into jewish scripture and finding where it's
mentioned, how, who mentions it...etc This would surely impress
the instructor of the class...using that source as a basis for the
general gist of the paper...
sounds like alot of work - - but it'd be quite a learning experience
for mom and son!
best of luck...
joe p
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1214.10 | Spelling | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Mon Feb 19 1990 16:10 | 10 |
| The correct spelling is, of course, only in Hebrew -- and for the
Kabbalah, that is *very* important. Webster's Unabridged lists the
following variant transliterations, but I wouldn't assume this is
complete:
cabala, cabbala, cabbalah,
kabala, kabbala, kabbalah,
qabbala, qabbalah
Topher
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1214.11 | F.Y.I. | DNEAST::BERLINGER_MA | LIFE IN THE ASTRAL PLANE | Tue Feb 20 1990 06:24 | 9 |
| (addendum to .1)
For what it is worth "A Garden of Pomegranates" by Israel
Regardie printed by Llewellyn Publications St. Paul, Minnesota 55164-
0383. I.S.B.N.0-87542-690-5.
Later,
Mark
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1214.12 | non-Jewish type source | VRMNTR::BEST | H.V. Attenuator | Tue Feb 20 1990 10:49 | 14 |
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re: Tree of Life
_Alchemical Studies_ by C.G.Jung has a section on this. If it's
like the other sections of the book (the ones I've read) it will
be *packed* with info. I'm not sure how he arranged this section,
but you may not care for it if it has too much of a psychological
perspective. (Other sections just presented the facts and then
a psychological summary was made at the end explaining that perspect-
ive).
FWIW,
guy
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1214.13 | Jewish Source? | REGENT::WAGNER | | Wed Feb 21 1990 08:31 | 9 |
| I came across a title called "Kabbalah: New Perspectives" Written
by Moshe Idel who is Associate Proffessor of Jewish thought at Hebrew
University in Jerusalem. The book was published by Vail-Ballou
Press in Binghamton, NY. I found it in a small bookstore across
from the Wordsworth bookstore in Harvard Square, Cambridge, Ma. It
was located in the philosophy-religion section.
Ernie
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1214.14 | another book | HYDRA::LARU | goin' to graceland | Mon Feb 26 1990 10:48 | 11 |
| I just found a copy of:
Kabbalah for the Layman
(A Guide to Cosmic Consciousness)
by Dr. Philip S. Berg
also subtitled (An Opening to the Portals of Jewish Mysticism)
published by Research Centre of Kabbalah,
Old City, Jerusalem
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1214.15 | "The Kaballah" by Adolphe Franck | KOLFAX::WIEGLEB | Horses are fine, so are books | Tue May 16 1995 22:09 | 13 |
| I just picked up a readable book on the subject called simply
"The Kabbalah", by Adolphe Franck. It was written in the first half of
the 19th century and takes a scholarly approach. It has three
sections, the first focuses on establishing the historical sources of the
philosophy by attempting to determine the sources of the two books that
form its basis (mumble-mumble and the Zohar), the second focuses on the
philosophy itself, and the third compares the philosophy other
philosophies such as Platonism and Christianity.
I found a copy in paperback in a used book store. The publisher is
Citadel, and it was printed in the early 1970s.
- Dave
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