Conference hydra::dejavu

    re: .0 (J)
    
          Yes, that is a warm story.  I want to ask somewhat of a 
    rhetorical question, however...what is the difference between
    this reality and imagination?  
    
          
    Frederick
    

    I think it could have been that she missed him
    so much that she could have just imagined it.
    But none the less it filled her with warm memorie's
    and made her feel at least for awhile that he was still
    with her.......
    
    But I do tend to believe that you can keep in touch 
    spiritually with loved ones.  I think you will alway's
    have a connection with them no matter where they are,
    if you just tune into it.
    
    J

    
    I read somewhere, and also believe, that when you remember someone who
    is deceased, that person exists for you during that time.
    
    We are never really alone - it just appears that way if you are only 
    operating in the physical plane.
    
    That was a nice story.
    
    Cindy

	My brother died a little over two years ago.  Occasionally, he pops
	up in my dreams when prior to his death I don't recall any dreams
	in which he took part.  When he is in a dream I awaken as if we just 
	had a visit.  

    The smell of flowers for me has always been an omen of something
    happening in my family or friends.  It is ususally in a place where
    there are no flowers.  I have smell flowers right before a death or a
    car accident.  
    
    I'm sure in your case if was just a sign that your grandfather was ok
    and keeping in touch with your grandmother.
    
    Denise 

    My Dad died unexpectedly one month + one day before his 53rd birthday.
    On the day he died, when Mom was leaving the house for work, she
    gave him a kiss and he said "don't forget to wear your seatbelt".
    Off she goes to work. He had a heart attack later that day and died.
    
    A few weeks later, feeling terribly (understandably) blue, Mom gets
    in the car after work and didn't put her seatbelt on. She's about
    1/4 of the way home and all of a sudden the seatbelt snaps up,
    reminding her that she had forgotten to put it on. She said, "It
    was kind of like Dad was trying to remind me". A lot of other things
    happened like that, around his death. Strange. But, I believe my
    Dad, like your Grandfather, is there. Whether just in your mind,
    or in spirit, or however.
    
    The flower smell must've made your Grandmother feel nice.
    
    beth

    	This isn't exactly flowers, but there have been times I'll 
    	catch a whiff of what smells like my dog (who died 2� years 
    	ago) Louie's post-meal breath.  It really is comforting.  I
    	feel very strongly that when someone you love dies, they're
    	always with you when you summon them through memories.
    
    							Carla
    

Re: .-1

>    	catch a whiff of what smells like my dog (who died 2� years 
>    	ago) Louie's post-meal breath.  It really is comforting.  I

Actually Carla, it just means your socks need changing. ;-)

John.

    Re.8 (Donaldson)
    
    Oh no, John, it's _much_ worse than that.  (;^)        
    
    Cindy (3 dogs to fondly remember - Nicky, Barney, Snoopy)

    Yes, communication is not only possible between "heaven and earth", but
    is a daily occurance, but generally takes place on a more subconscious
    level of the mind.
    
    The reason being that the realm of spirit is actually our real home
    and there is a thread of consciousness that ever so subtly links these
    worlds together.
    
    I've been involved in studying the phenomenon of spirit communication
    for ten years and during the last three years was part of a group that
    "fine-tuned" our abilities to do this type of communication. 
    Basically it involved quieting the mind and elevating the consciousness
    to a state similar to that achieved during meditation.  In this way
    you're able to make the subconscious mind more accessible to the
    conscious. 
    
    Communication happens via mental telepathy, which is not
    just seeing images in your mind (clairvoyance), or hearing words
    (clairaudience), but can occur through any one or a combination of the
    five senses, smell included.  In technical terms, receiving info
    communicated through the sense of smell is termed "clairsentience".
    
    Anyway, I could go on and on.  But what I would say is that I have no
    doubt your grandfather wanted his well wishes to be known to your
    grandmother and that he was sending her his love, so he choose
    the one thing he felt sure she would connect with him the most -
    flowers!  I think that is absolutely beautiful!  Hooray for him
    and her!  What a great, sweet love they share!
    
    You can probably tell by this note that I believe in Life after Life. 
    I do.  I continue to fine tune my abilities to communicate in this
    way, and it has greatly enhanced my life in more ways than I can say.
    
    Well anyway, I cast my vote that the flowers were from your grandfather
    and not simply a figment of your grandmother's imagination...although
    that was certainly the vessel your grandfather used to communicate
    his love through!
    
    Peace,
    
    Karen
                                                  
    

RE: .10
    
    Just a quick note on terminology to help avoid some confusion
    elsewhere.
    
    Karen's use of terms is mostly correct, but it is not the general
    usage one usually finds nowadays.  Her definitions are close to the
    original ones.  There are still many groups which use the terms in
    these original meanings, but they have changed meaning somewhat among
    others including the parapsychological/psychical-research community
    who originated all the terms I'm speaking of.
    
    Specifically, "telepathy" (rarely used with the adjective "mental" now,
    since it is redundant) is mind-to-mind information transfer however
    the information is internally perceived by the reciever (the modality
    of the transfer).
    
    Similarly, "clairvoyance" is now generally used to mean transfer of
    information from the (present time) physical world to the mind,
    irrespective of the modality.  If it is desired to specify the modality
    the appropriate adjective would be used, such as "tactile
    clairvoyance", "auditory clairvoyance", "visual clairvoyance" (which
    would be redundant from the literal/original meaning), "olfactory
    clairvoyance", <<can't think what taste would be>>, "emotional
    clairvoyance", etc. etc..  The same adjectives are used with
    "telepathy".  Clairaudience is not infrequently used to synonymously
    with auditory clairvoyance.
    
    I have never seen clairsentience used to mean "olfactory clairvoyance"
    in the general modern usage.  I have seen it used, somewhat
    inappropriately to mean something like "pure thought telepathy".  It
    means literally, "clear sensing" (as clairvoyance means literally
    "clear seeing" and clairaudience" means literally "clear hearing").
    It would thus be a more appropriate word for what is now generally
    called clairvoyance, but that usage is now pretty deeply entrenched.
    
    I make this point not to correct Karen -- if that is the terminology
    within her community, then it is, in a very real sense correct within
    that context -- but to prevent readers from taking those definitions
    into other contexts and getting confused.
    
    					Topher
    

    
    
    RE: .10  Karen
    
    Well...I see you finally made it into DEJAVU!  Welcome.  I'm
    sure you will enjoy this file and the people who share here
    very much.
    
    I'm on vacation this week, and just took some free moments to
    check in from home.  Will be in touch soon.
    
    Carole

    Re:  .12 Carole
    
    Hi!  Well, we both knew it was inevitable...  I was really touched by
    the flowers story.  As always, isn't it wonderous the many ways that we
    do communicate with each other - spirit in body and spirit sans the
    physical body?
    
    Hope you're enjoying vacation.  I look forward to talking to you real
    soon!  We've got "work" to do!
    
    Oh, by the way, you haven't by any chance received the Joe Campbell
    tapes back yet - I'm really looking forward to seeing them.
    
    Talk to you real soon and take GOOD care of yourself!
    
    - KB