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Title:Psychic Phenomena
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Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
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1087.0. "Identical Twins ..." by GRANPA::TTAYLOR () Fri Jul 21 1989 12:08

    My sister and I are identical twins, as are numerous cousins and
    my maternal grandmother.  We have all experienced these very 
    psychic feelings, such as finishing each other's sentences,
    not having to speak, just KNOWING what we're thinking and feeling,
    and also we have the EXACT same scars from surgery and identical
    birthmarks.
    
    I wonder how many twins out there have experienced the same things
    as our family has (BTW, all the twins in our family are female!)
    or if anyone has any observations on this subject.
    
    It's funny, though, we're identical but our personalities are the
    exact OPPOSITE of one another, like two sides of a coin!
    
    Tammi
    
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1087.1Mirror imagesLEDS::BATESIn excelsisFri Jul 21 1989 15:124
    
    -and one of you is left-handed and the other right-handed?
    
    gloria
1087.2Observations by father of twinsCHFS32::LTAYLORNothing unreal exists.Fri Jul 21 1989 20:1329
I am the father of identical twin girls who are four years old. It has 
certainly been interesting to observe how they communicate on both a verbal,
non-verbal and perhaps even a telepathic level. Like you and your sister 
they have very different personalities even at this young age. I find it
amazing how two people of such similar genetic and environmental background
can react so differently to the same situation. 

I think that the case for telepathy will be rather difficult to prove in
twins. Before my daughters began to speak they had already developed a 
language of squeals, squeeks and gestures that was incomprehensible to 
us, the parents, but apparently perfectly understood by them. The non-
verbal communication skills of twins are probably much better than those
of singletons. The uncanny rapport that you and your sister enjoy may be
due to these skills learned as pre-verbal toddlers.

Never the less there have been a few cases in our twins that point to a
telepathic mechanism. For example, one night recently Ashley woke up 
crying from a bad dream. She complained to her mother that her sister, 
Lexie, was unfairly hitting her in the dream. At this point, Lexie also 
woke and immediately denied that she had hit her sister unfairly. 
According to her, Ashley had stolen a favorite toy and deserved to be
wacked on the head. Clearly the girls seemed to be sharing the same
dream. Maybe not scientific evidence but very intriguing.

Perhaps someone else could comment on the various studies of twins 
separated at birth whose wifes have the same first name, drive the
same make and color of car, etc. 

Larry
1087.3CLOVE::MACDONALD_KMon Jul 24 1989 13:4719
    I saw an episode of (I think) Nova once which was entirely devoted
    to identical twins - the majority of whom were separated at birth.
    One set of twins I found particularly interesting were two men in
    their mid thirties or so who had just found out about each other's
    existence.  One grew up in Florida - the other in up-state New York.
    When they met each other for the first time (in a hotel halfway
    between their homes) they discovered they were both firemen, both
    married women who looked almost like *they* could be twins (also
    both wives were nurses or something like that) and both drove the
    same kind of car.  There were also numerous other things they had
    in common - for example, both used Vademecum toothpaste (weird)
    and both used the same after-shave which was also some obscure
    brand that you don't see too often.  All-in-all, the two guys were
    almost the same person.  The thing that really impressed me though,
    was the fact that they grew up in totally different environments
    with families that couldn't have been any more opposite.  Shows
    how much about us is genetic.
    
    - Kathryn
1087.4MAMTS1::TTAYLORTue Jul 25 1989 15:156
    Re: .1
    
    Yes!  I'm a lefty, Terri is a righty!
    
    Tammi
    
1087.5CHECK U. OF MINNESOTACAPO::BRADLEY_RITue Aug 01 1989 19:2517
    re: 1087.2
    There are two researchers at the U. of Minnesota in Minneapolis
    who have been researching this issue. They've been on the Donahue
    Show, and were the presenters on the NOVA PBS show. Their studies
    are quite rigorous and they are staying rather far from any
    Parapsychological implications. They are, however, in communication
    with Nick Herbert, a Physicist, with interests in non-local connections
    (i.e. "paranormal"). The coincidences such as those you mentioned
    are far too numerous to ignore.
    
    It has become clear that our behavioral inheritance is substantial,
    and far more extensive than most of us would have believed. If you'd
    like more on the "paranormal communication" issue, read F. David
    Peak's, "Synchronicity: the Bridge between Matter and Mind". It's
    available in paperback.
    
    Richard
1087.6Minneapolis & St. Paul = Twin CitiesWITNES::FUNKCorrespondence to XIBITA::MM_TEMPWed Aug 02 1989 11:285
    
    I just thought that's too strange to be a coincidence....
    
    
    /Greg
1087.7Telepathy, not heredityFOOZLE::GOODHUEThu Aug 03 1989 13:5313
    Maybe the coincidences are based on telepathy rather than genes.  My
    husband and I have had times when we have both thought long and hard on
    things and come to a decision without mentioning it to the other
    person.  When we finally started discussing the issue, we found that we
    had both been focused on it and had come to the same conclusion.
    
    Since twins are supposed to be more telepathic than non-twins, it makes
    sense that they might be communicating without being aware of it and
    coming to some decisions about their lives based on their mutual
    discussions.
    
    Meredith
    
1087.8Twinepathic communication.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu Aug 03 1989 14:5217
re: .7 (Meredith)
    
    > Since twins are supposed to be more telepathic than non-twins.
    
    Twins are certainly more in tune with each other's body language etc.
    and there is a popular belief that they are more telepathic than
    non-twins.  This seems to be based on observations of the sometimes
    amazing non-verbal communication which takes place between twins, and
    on what have been called "resonance" models of telepathy.
    
    So far, however, no one has succeeded in actually showing any better
    telepathic communication between twins than between other siblings.
    Of course "lack of evidence" does not equate to "evidence of lack",
    but if there is such an effect it is either small or under special
    circumstances or some combination of the two.
    
    					Topher
1087.9They are thinking the sameWITNES::FUNKCorrespondence to XIBITA::MM_TEMPThu Aug 03 1989 17:3211
    
    Couldn't identical twins, who are identical in many things they
    do, have identical thought processes?  Just because they think of
    the same things at the same time doesn't mean one of them transmitted
    the idea to the other; it could mean they went from A to B and resolved
    C using the same thoughts, but seperately from each other.
    
    The above is IMO, but I would like to believe that twins share a
    special bonding, body language, even telepathy.
    
    /Greg
1087.10IRISH TWINSGUCCI::SMILLERMon Mar 09 1992 09:378
    My sister and I are 362 days apart which makes us "irish twins".  As
    children, we too had a secret language that only we understood.  My mom
    would hear us talking to each other in our language and she would hear
    "mama"-like we were talking about her!
    so maybe it can be siblings that are very close in age-not just twins.
    
    shannon
    
1087.11CSC32::GORTMAKERWhatsa Gort?Sat Mar 21 1992 01:119
    re-.1
    My brother and I are exactly 10 months apart and share a sort of
    telepathy where we usually know what the other is thinking without
    ever saying a word. I think this is because we spent so much time
    together growing up nothing "special" about it other than we know
    each other very well.
    
    -j