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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1071.0. "The Demonic Realm" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Jun 16 1989 10:01

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1071.1Pandemonia RevisitedSALEM::CATANIAStranger than fictionFri Jun 16 1989 12:4154
1071.2NEXUS::MORGANCelebrating the Cybernetic Age.Sun Jun 18 1989 04:0425
    Reply to .0 and .1,
    
    I don't know it I'd call it demonic. Perhaps chthonic is better. In
    some reasonable esoteric systems a viable shortcut to the higher
    spiritual realms exists by going down into the lower realms. Please be
    aware that your present belief system colors negatively any chthonic
    experiences that might benefit you. 

    The entity you saw or experienced in the semi-disemodied state is
    called the Guardian. It is the shadow form of your fears and hatreds. 
    
    My experiences are pretty much the same as yours with different
    details. I think that ultimately, during physical life, the shadow or
    Guardian has to be intergrated back into your being. Jung has much to
    say on this. 
    
    Please don't let it discourage you. That only generates more fear for
    the Guardian to feed upon. 
    
    As a suggestion please break up your writings into paragraphs. It's
    difficult to follow a train of thought over 100 lines. 
    
    I'd be willing to converse with you on this either in mail or here. I'm
    on vacation now until the 26th. 
                                   
1071.3?BTOVT::BEST_GNostradamus: Fault's ProphetTue Jun 20 1989 12:125
    
    Could someone define "Demonic Realm" and "Chthonic Realm" for the 
    lay-pagan, so we might discern some difference between the two?
    
    Guy
1071.4Looked it upDNEAST::CHRISTENSENLTue Jun 20 1989 12:5011
    Isn't "lay-pagan" an oxymoron? ;^)
    
    Anyhow, FWIW, chthonian as defined by my encyclopedic dictionary
    has to do with belonging to the underworld or divinities of sub-
    terraneous regions.
    
    I suggest this is the source of Heavy Metal; but then again, I could be
    wrong.  Again, demonic has to do with forms evil takes and really
    nothing to do with the earth except folks notion of where *down* is.
    
    L.
1071.5Hey Larry! Did you get my Email a couple weeks ago?BTOVT::BEST_GNostradamus: Fault's ProphetTue Jun 20 1989 13:1222
Re:Note 1071.4    DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL                               

                             
    >Isn't "lay-pagan" an oxymoron? ;^)

                Probably.  But that's just my opinion from the ones I've
                dealt with. :-)

      
  >  Anyhow, FWIW, chthonian as defined by my encyclopedic dictionary
  >  has to do with belonging to the underworld or divinities of sub-
  >  terraneous regions.
    
   > I suggest this is the source of Heavy Metal; but then again, I could be
        
                I'm not so sure the source is as subterranean as it is
                sub-human. 

:-)


Guy