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1024.1 | | NEXUS::MORGAN | All Hail Informatia! | Tue Apr 04 1989 16:09 | 9 |
| Reply to .0, Benson,
I haven't read the book yet, but maybe I will after I get through
with _Dark_Secrets_of_the_New_Age_, or whatever, by Tex Marr. B^)
Actually I have looked into the heart of Darkness and I must confess
that I liked what I saw. Needless to say I didn't get sucked into
the vacuum. It is very, very enticing though...
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1024.2 | Thought I was in the wrong conference for a minute there... | SCOPE::PAINTER | Wage Peace | Wed Apr 05 1989 21:13 | 4 |
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Re.0 - Jeff - my goodness - a familiar face! (;^) Welcome.
Cindy
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1024.3 | More please... | NRPUR::BERNIER | | Mon Apr 10 1989 15:22 | 12 |
| Hi, Jeff,
Is this the same Johanna Michelson from the book and movie, _Gods
of the New Age_"? If so, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts
on the book. It was recommended to me some years back by my father.
But due to time restrictions and a very small book budget I never
got around to it.
Is there, indeed, a "beautiful side of evil"? A review would
be appreciated.
Gil
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1024.4 | Trying to be sensitive to others... | NRPUR::BERNIER | | Mon Apr 10 1989 15:25 | 7 |
| It just occured to me that this note could lead to more new-age
bashing, which would be in bad taste in this conference. Jeff,
perhaps it would be better to send me info via vaxmail.
Thanks,
Gil
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1024.5 | a fascinating book... | SSDEVO::ACKLEY | Mediumfoot | Mon Apr 10 1989 15:46 | 25 |
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I read this book a while back. It was interesting reading,
although I did not agree with it in it's entirety. The author
had been involved with a psychic healer, as her assistant over
a long period of time. After this she had a religious experience
converting her to "born-again" Christianity. In this book
she explains how the healer often was able to help people, but
that in her view the underlying power was satanic. Thus she
felt that the evil was hidden under the seeming good of providing
healings. After her conversion she came to believe that the
"miracles" she had seen were empowered by evil, in order to
disguise the true evil and make it appear good.
One of the more sordid seeming accounts in the book involves
digging up the body of a dead man to remove body parts for a
'transplant' operation, performed in a no-anesthetic psychic
surgery. I thought the tale she tells may well be a true
one, and it is a rare tale, coming as it does, from someone
who was an insider when the 'healings' were taking place.
It is a fascinating book which explores difficult issues.
It is well written, and although I did not agree with all
her conclusions, I still believe it was well worth reading.
Alan.
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1024.6 | Consider yourself at home. | SCOPE::PAINTER | Nothing is written. | Tue Apr 11 1989 19:25 | 19 |
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Re.3,.4
Hi Gil,
You are welcome here, as is Jeff...and your opinions, even though
they may differ from the DEJAVU mainstream (if there is such a thing
(;^)). I would like to see more cross-conference exchanges in
hopes of promoting further understanding and acceptance in these
areas of New Age, religion, peace, etc., and hopefully I am echoing
the sentiments of other DEJAVU participant here - particularly those
who lean toward 'new age' beliefs.
(Cross-conferencing meaning CHRISTIAN and DEJAVU in this instance,
for those not familiar with this particular dialogue.)
Welcome to DEJAVU.
Cindy
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1024.7 | | USACSB::CBROWN | April Fool | Wed Apr 12 1989 04:09 | 17 |
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RE: .1
Mikie? "Dark Secrets of the New Age, or watever" catchy title!
I'm still trying to muddle through "Hidden Dangers of The Rainbow".
(personaly a prefer Calvin & Hobbes)
RE: last few in there
I think this conf. may be better in content and maturity than
some and wont degenerate into bashing. But if it comes down to
religion... I believe we should move it there.
Thanks ;-)
Craig
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1024.8 | some of the best things are not easy... | SSDEVO::ACKLEY | Mediumfoot | Wed Apr 12 1989 21:29 | 65 |
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Last night I got out my copy of "The Beautiful Side of
Evil", and have been looking it over again...
This book is far and away more interesting and challenging
than the usual run of new age bashing 'Christian' books
like "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" which I have also
read and was not at all impressed with. Johanna Michaelsen
tells her own story, which is unusual to begin with, and
sheds the light of her own unique viewpoint on the spiritual
conflicts of our world.
The story presented in "The Beautiful Side Of Evil" is
powerful and well written. It is a very subjective story
however, and while it has an important challenge and message,
my own strongly held religious viewpoints were not really
changed by reading it. Yet I admit that I cannot take this
book lightly, for I can directly feel her depth and honesty.
I feel I have been given a psychic ability for truth-sense
which I use always when I am evaluating an author. The truth
sense conveys to me the state of mind of the author, not the
absolute knowledge of *Truth*. This inner sense has told me
she is being honest, telling it as she sees it. I like her.
I would really enjoy speaking with her, I'm sure.
The story embodies a warning against involvement with the
occult, and with spirits, a warning which is integral to the
author's story.
Now, my library is replete with numerous volumes of occult
literature, which Johanna Michaelsen would probably warn me are
bringing me into danger. She might even suggest I burn some
of those books as she burned her own. I am already a Christian,
though some others have told me I am not, certain that their
definition of Christianity is the only correct one. But
certainly I admit I'm not of the mainstream variety of Christian,
being more of a Gnostic with Native American leanings. I don't
feel my reading habits have endangered my soul, and so I consider that
some of her reaction to the evil that she found was an over-reaction,
perhaps quite justified, considering what she has personally seen,
and been through.
Even so, this book raises legitimate questions about the
nature and source of spiritual aid and psychic powers. If
you believe that all world religions are equally valid paths
to God as I do, if you believe in some of the practices that
have been termed 'new age' or 'occult', then this book is a
powerful challenge. The story implies that many psychic
abilities that people feel are their own, are actually the
abilities of the spirits that walk along with them in life.
The spirit that a shaman would consider to be a helper, the
born-again Christian would consider to be a parasite, infiltrating
to eventually attack the person.
Now, I am after the *Truth*. This book causes me to
evaluate my own place on the path as very few books have ever
done. I find I am reading it over again, it is worth a
second reading. It's worth a prayer to God for more insight
into the deeper truth, and for the love to carry that truth.
If you are into the New Age movement, and the development of
psychic abilities, then I *dare* you to say you are unaffected
by reading this powerful story. Read it and say your own
prayer.
Alan.
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1024.9 | if intrested.... where can we get it? | USACSB::CBROWN | April Fool | Thu Apr 13 1989 02:55 | 9 |
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Re: .8
Any chance we could get the publishers name, cost, where to send
for it... for those of us who are into mail order... ect?
and any other recomendations/opinions by folks who have read it?
thanks
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1024.10 | publisher info, etc... | SSDEVO::ACKLEY | Mediumfoot | Thu Apr 13 1989 20:08 | 14 |
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_The_Beautiful_Side_Of_Evil_, by Johanna Michaelsen.
1982, Harvest House. Forward by Hal Lindsey.
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 82-082240
ISBN 0-89081-322-1
Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, OR 97402
My issue of this is trade paperback size, and the price on it,
from a year or two ago, is $5.95. I can't remember where I got
it, but I suspect it may have been in one of the 'Zondervan'
Christian bookstores.
Alan.
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