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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
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984.0. "Psychics and Reception" by SONATA::OGILVIE (CA - Make Way....) Wed Feb 08 1989 15:41

    
    
    I have a two-part question:
    
    (1)  What are your feelings about "psychics" - your experiences?
                                                                   
    (2)  If you, yourself, are 'sensitive', how do you receive?  Pictures,
         thoughts, impressions, ???                                
                                                                  
    
     Cheryl  
            
                                                                   
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984.1GENRAL::DANIELWed Feb 08 1989 16:3914
>    (1)  What are your feelings about "psychics" - your experiences?

Some psychics are frauds.  I go with my own psychic feelings when seeking out a 
psychic.  Mostly, I stick with psychic friends for my own readings.

>    (2)  If you, yourself, are 'sensitive', how do you receive?                                  
    
Words come to me.  "Pop"; they're in my head.  Other times, I visualize (this 
is more rare, and usually more accurate).  When there's danger, the little 
hairs on the back of my neck, prickle.

I have the most difficulty with time frames.  I'll get a number; say, two, and 
not know if it means days, months, hours...so I keep away from giving time 
frames.  I hope to figure out how to be more accurate within this realm.
984.2ReplySONATA::OGILVIECA - Make Way....Wed Feb 08 1989 16:5114
    
    Reply to myself 8*} !!
    
    (1) I know quite a few psychics/mediums and am now able to "sense"
        at what _level_ they are at, during the reading...
    
    (2) For myself, I am only on the road of sensitivity.  But for right
        now, I tend to shoot off at the mouth and not even know where
        I'm going.  I should have a taperecorder.   Oh, lately, I have
        teeny weeny visions.  For instance a friend told me they went
        someplace with "friends", when I only saw them with one and
        it was female.  I was correct.
    
    /C
984.3WILLEE::FRETTSkeep life's wonder aliveThu Feb 09 1989 11:4433
    
    RE: .0  Cheryl    
    
        
    (1)  What are your feelings about "psychics" - your experiences?
    
    	 I have had good experiences and bad experiences.  A good
    	 psychic, one who works with responsibility and integrity,	
         can assist many souls on their journeys.  A psychic who
    	 is irresponsible and cause some major damage to the psyche
    	 of the sitter.  This is not limited to psychics.  Anyone
    	 who works in this manner, be they psychic, medium, tarot
    	 reader, healer, astrologer should never take what they do
    	 lightly. (IMO)
    
    (2)  If you, yourself, are 'sensitive', how do you receive?  Pictures,
         thoughts, impressions, ???                                
                                                                  
	 When I am actively working, I usually *see* pictures.  Any
         message being sent comes to me as a *thought*.  The information
    	 is just there.  Often I *feel* the emotions of a communicating
    	 spirit - sadness, lightness, shyness, love, etc.
    
    	 I have also found myself in a position sometimes where I will
    	 say things or do things without conscious effort, and later
    	 on come to find out the significance of them.  It's as if
    	 the All-That-Is works through me without my having to 
    	 consciously make the effort.
    
    
    Carole     
    
984.4ATSE::FLAHERTYNevermore!Thu Feb 09 1989 12:4322
    Cheryl,
    
    (1) Until recently (meeting Richard Greene), my experiences
        with psychics had been disappointing.  As Carole mentioned
        in her reply, a good psychic works with responsibility and
        integrity.  Richard worked at a very high 'spiritual'
        level.
    
    (2) I had always tended to ignore my 'sensitivity' because
        it frightened me.  Richard Greene explained how it worked
        for me and suggested ways to use it (this was without me
        saying a word) constructively.
    
        Carole, my 'information' seems to come through the same
        way as yours, feeling the emotions (funny, when I met
        you I sensed that about you too!).  I do have a problem
        though when I pick up on someone's 'sadness', I become
        sad as well.  Does this ever happen to you?
    
    
    Ro
    
984.5WILLEE::FRETTSkeep life's wonder aliveThu Feb 09 1989 13:2727
    
     	RE: .4  Ro,

	    
        >.................................I do have a problem
        >though when I pick up on someone's 'sadness', I become
        >sad as well.  Does this ever happen to you?
    
    	Before I knew anything about psychic sensitivity, I used
	to be buffeted by other people's energy and feelings all
	the time, but always thought it was me!  It's only in
	recent years that I have been able to determine what's
	me and what isn't me.  It's not an easy process, though.
	What this does allow for is a more compassionate approach
	to people, when you are able to pick up on what they are
	*really* feeling.

	When I work with spirit, giving messages to a sitter, it
	can be a very important part of the communication to express
	the feelings being shared as well.  It is often difficult
	not to totally take on the feelings and emotions as my own,
	however, to show them can touch the heart of the sitter very
	deeply.  So its a process of balance between too much and too
	little.

	Carole    
984.6WILLEE::FRETTSkeep life's wonder aliveThu Feb 09 1989 13:3112
    
    
    And as a continuation of the "sensitivity" discussion....
    astrologically speaking, the kind of sensitivity where you
    have a difficult time determining what is you and what is not
    you relates strongly to the Pisces archetype in that it doesn't
    have any *boundaries*.  It blends into whatever is around it.
    So someone with strong Pisces, Neptune (ruler of Pisces) or
    12th House (Pisces' house) energies in their birthcharts would
    most likely come up against this issue in their life.
    
    Carole
984.7Ah, balance...ATSE::FLAHERTYNevermore!Thu Feb 09 1989 13:517
    Thanks Carole,
    
    Now that I'm really beginning to understand the 'sensitivity',
    I can work better with it in harmony.
    
    Ro
    
984.8I'm a Pisces help!NYSBS::MABILLITue Feb 14 1989 17:0311
    Oh, I can't believe I am reading all of this.  It sounds just like
    the way I feel all the time.  I am a VERY sensitive person.  I am
    a Pisces with Pisces ruling. Oh my goodness!  And I am like a sponge,
    I absorb all the emotions around me and it gets very overwhelming
    sometimes.  At least now I have a reason for the way I feel.  
    
    Is there anyone out there with some suggestions on how to gain control
    over these overwhelming feelings?      
    
    Diana
    
984.9You lucky one!IJSAPL::ELSENAARCan't afford to lose that feeling...Wed Feb 15 1989 04:1017
RE -1 (Diana)
>    Is there anyone out there with some suggestions on how to gain control
>    over these overwhelming feelings?      

Play with it. Try to track them to the sources.
Most of all: enjoy it!

There's a dutch poem of someone who is completely anti-Pisces (if such a thing
exists...). It's difficult to translate, but here's a try:

I'm sitting at the window pane
Looking at the weather
I wished I were two dogs
Then I could play together...

See what I mean? You're just the opposite!
Arie ;-)
984.10WILLEE::FRETTSkeep life's wonder aliveWed Feb 15 1989 10:1224
    
    RE: .8
    
    Hi Diana,
    
    I'm glad to hear that the info on Pisces has been a realization
    for you.  Though I'm not a Pisces, I do have a heavily aspected
    12th House (Pisces' house) and Neptune (Pisces' ruler) in the
    6th House (ruler of the physical body, boundaries, etc., Neptune
    sensitizes and dissolves).  The big step is to realize that their
    is a means by which we can come to understand the way we are.  
    So, now you don't have to think that everything you are feeling
    is being sourced by you.  You can begin the process of deciphering
    what is you and what isn't you.  This could take awhile, but at
    least now you know it isn't all you.  Next, it would be important
    to surround yourself with people whose energy is of a positive
    supportive nature.  Also, owning for yourself that you are
    vulnerable and that you hurt easily, honor that in you, tell 
    others when you are being hurt....these things should assist you.
    One more thing, when you are in a situation where the energy
    is effecting you, try to just let it flow through you - don't
    hold it as your own.  It should then pass very quickly.
    
    Carole
984.11Thanks, Loved your poem ArieNYSBS::MABILLIWed Feb 22 1989 11:0511
    Thanks to all for your valued input.  I will try to incorporate
    your insightful advice.
    
    Carole:  How do you attract positive energied people?  Whenever
    I try to do this I find myself being too outwardly discriminating
    so I have stopped.  I do rely on my instincts, however, and find
    them to be almost always right.  Is this what you mean?  Part of
    being a Pisces to me is opening up and out trying to retain everything
    and everyone.  See, see, see, learn learn learn.  Maybe I am not
    being spiritual enough?  Life just seems too concrete most of the
    time to be spiritual.  
984.12AXIS::GERTZButterflysRFreeWed Feb 22 1989 11:579
    I don't have too much time to write, but wanted to reply to .11
    in answer to the question, "How do you attract positive energized
    people?"  
    
    To attract positive energized people, be a positive, energized person
    yourself.  
    
    Charlene
    
984.13Hm...a conflict here?CLUE::PAINTERWage PeaceWed Feb 22 1989 17:3510
    
    Like attracts like.
    
    Birds of a feather flock together.
    
    ...and so on.
         
    Oops - then there is "Opposites Attract".  Oh well.  (;^)
    
    Cindy
984.14WILLEE::FRETTSkeep life's wonder aliveThu Feb 23 1989 08:5540
    RE: .11                  
    NYSBS::MABILLI
    
    
    >..................I do rely on my instincts, however, and find
    them to be almost always right.  Is this what you mean?  
    
    Yes, I would think that this would be the best approach to take.
    I have known some Pisces people who have gotten involved with
    others who really pull them down.  These Pisces individuals
    would just absorb the energy the other people were putting out
    and were totally overwhelmed by it.  I have also seen these same
    people start to sort out the types of groups they hung around
    with, and as the energies became more positive, they were
    able to use the relationships in a way that allowed them to
    grow and be more positive.  
    
    >Part of
    >being a Pisces to me is opening up and out trying to retain everything
    >and everyone.  See, see, see, learn learn learn.  
    
    Pisces can't really help but be open :-) however I don't really
    agree with the *retaining* part of your statement.  Trying to retain
    everything and everyone sounds like a pretty heavy burden to me.
    And where are *you* in all of it?
    
    
    >Maybe I am not
    >being spiritual enough?  Life just seems too concrete most of the
    >time to be spiritual.  

    I would never even try to answer this question, because I don't
    think anyone else can or should judge the spirituality of another
    person.  Plus, I think people would come up with all kinds of
    definitions of what spirituality is.
    
    Take care.
    
    Carole
    
984.15It's Complements, not OppositesWMOIS::REINKES/W Manufacturing TechnologiesThu Mar 09 1989 12:3946
    re:  13
    
    I believe it is complements that attract.  Joy and Sorrow are
    complements, as are Love and Hate.  Love and complete apathy are
    opposites; they do not attract in my experience. 
    
    Getting back to the subject at hand, I often read minds.  WRT to the
    question as to "What's me and what's not?" in my experience there's
    no telling whether I'm reading your mind or vice versa.  Rather
    it seems we resonate with the same thought.
    
    I also attempt to visualize contact with the third eye of people I
    meet.  (I've never "seen" anything, but I gaze past the eyes upon
    meeting.  When conversing, I try to look people in their physical eye.)
    I haven't noticed anything dramatic about that, but their outward
    appearance doesn't affect me nearly as much as it used to, and I think
    I generally respect people more. 
    
    As far as visiting a psychic goes, as a teenager, my parents had Arthur
    Ford over to the house and I sat with them.  All I can remember is that
    he told me something about my aura. In another instance, again as a
    teenager, I sat in a group with a person named Bill Donnelly.  His
    "control" told me that my guide was named David and that people would
    often call me by that name.  Now my brother is named David, and we look
    a lot alike (if you ignore the nine-inch difference in height).  I
    originally discounted people calling me David as mere confusion with my
    brother, but since we grew up, people who have no knowledge of him have
    often called me David.  I do not, however, actively seek guidance
    from this entity, nor have I encountered other evidence of his existence. 

    In the group to which I belong, we regularly meditate together and
    occasionally sit with one or another who is a medium.  
    
    Regarding the note about damage a psychic could do,
    
    In any psychic contact, it is important to clothe yourself in light and
    challenge the entities that may come through you or through another.
    The ignorance and blindness we may often decry is also a protection and
    a guardian. As don Juan says, for most people the guardian has become a
    guard, but if you remove your unconscious protection then prepare and
    use a conscious one! 
    
    Regards,
    
    Donald Reinke