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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

925.0. "And away goes trouble, DTD" by ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI (Ah, the road within without) Thu Dec 01 1988 08:13

    
    	An aquaintance of mine once suggested that in order to help
    get rid of the ill-effects of being with a certain someone, say, 
    whom you were having a dis_agreement with, was to simply take a
    shower. Almost as if you could wash off their residual essance.
    
    	Any truth to this? Perhaps "Coast" is more than an eye opener!
    
    	Joe Jas
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925.1No I haven't but... *o* *o* EXIT26::SAARINENThu Dec 01 1988 11:0514
    I never tried taking a shower to wash off the residual ill effects
    of a disagreement with some else before. Taking a shower with someone
    to enjoy the *positive* residual effects...yes...8-)
    
    But I am one of the few persons, who when I was a younger little
    brat, annoying the hell out of my parents, and saying a few choice
    cuss words in my fathers presence, had my mouth washed out with
    soap.
    
    Boy that Lifebuoy soap tasted awful. It sure washed away alot more
    than residual ill-effects, and I didn't need bubblegum to blow
    bubbles for a week. ;-)
    
    -Arthur                
925.2Shower of LightSHRBIZ::WAINELindaThu Dec 01 1988 12:5210
    I've heard something similar to that...  I think that the shower
    can aid in the visualization of cleansing energy/light.  For example,
    sometimes when I get really upset, I get in the shower and let
    the water pour on me...  As it pours on me, I visualize a "shower"
    of blue light and repeat affirmations for serenity, balance, harmony,
    etc.   I will also visualize other color lights depending on what
    my purpose is... (e.g. I'll use white and violet for overall
    "cleansing", silver for protection, pink for self-love, etc.)
    
    Linda
925.3WHEEL::DONHAMWaste is a terrible thing to mindThu Dec 01 1988 12:5720
    
    I sometimes do an aura-cleansing shower ritual. While standing under
    the shower stream, I clear my mind through slow, rythmic breathing.
    
    Once I've calmed down, I breathe deeply through the root chakra,
    hold the breath for a few moments at the heart chakra (remembering
    that god is found in between the breaths), then expell the breath
    through the crown chakra, allowing the shower stream to push the
    energy down from my head and over my body.
    
    During this process I visualize my aura being cleansed and purified
    by the energy/water; I imagine chunks of black crud being washed
    away from it. After a time, my aura becomes its normal vibrant,
    electric green.
    
    Very refreshing.
    
    Perry
    
    
925.4from an aquaholicBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfThu Dec 01 1988 14:3110
    	Joe, I agree with Linda that the shower is a good place to be
    	alone (maybe ;-)) and uninterrupted.  Also, many people view
    	water as a symbolization of emotions, so perhaps the physical 
    	act of allowing warm water to run down your body then down a
    	drain helps whatever is bothering you inside to do the same.
    
    	Certainly couldn't hurt!  =8-)
    
    						    Carla
    
925.5Anchovies like waterDECWET::MITCHELLThe Cosmic AnchovyThu Dec 01 1988 19:337
    My best ideas and inspirations come to me in the shower.  I admit
    to being a shower freak and have been known to take several on a
    single day (wonder what Freud would say?).
    
    My bod is so clean, you can eat off of it.
    
    John M.
925.6Or would you prefer a nibble?BSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfThu Dec 01 1988 22:368
    re: .5 (John M.)
    
    >>	My bod is so clean, you can eat off of it.
    
    	Knew someone would bite at that one, right John?  ;-D
    
    						   Carla
    
925.7WILLEE::FRETTSNoting with my Higher SelfFri Dec 02 1988 10:098
    
    
    re: .5  
    
    John, you are really going to have to stop this blatant demonstration
    of your Virgoan tendencies! :-)
    
    Carole
925.8Soap for soup.WRO8A::WARDFRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerFri Dec 02 1988 12:4913
    RE: last few
    
        Actually, being *that* clean may not be to his sexual 
    advantage.  It all depends on the tastes of the eater.  I
    recall that Napolean (of Bonaparte fame) wrote to Josephine
    once and (paraphrasing) said "I'll be home in two weeks, don't
    bathe."
    
    Frederick
    (who-bathes-just-the-same, thank you.)
    
    ;-)
    
925.9Frederick!BSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfFri Dec 02 1988 13:224
    	Who said anything about sex?!
    
    	C.
    
925.10Who Cleans the Drain?EXIT26::SAARINENFri Dec 02 1988 14:225
    Perry,
    
    Who cleans the drain after your done with your cleansing ritual?
    
    -Arthur
925.11Pass the bicarb ...FLASH1::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Fri Dec 02 1988 14:2316
    Re .8 (Fredrick):
    
    >    Actually, being *that* clean may not be to his sexual 
    >advantage.  It all depends on the tastes of the eater. ...
    >[Napoleon told Josephine] 'said "I'll be home in two weeks, don't
    >bathe."                 
     
    Maybe his taste ran to the gamy. :-P
    
    Re subject:
    
    Bathing can be a symbolic act.  Thus, accumulated stuff [troubles,
    negativity, etc.] can be removed symbolically even as oils, grime,
    and other physical soil is removed corporeally.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
925.12Where does the Cosmic Grime Go?EXIT26::SAARINENFri Dec 02 1988 14:5816
    O.K. I have a question, and it is somewhat of a serious natured
    one.
    
    You wash off all this negativity and subtle cosmic grime in a
    symbolic act or ritual in your shower..O.K.? Where does all 
    this negativity go from there?
    
    Is this Biodegradable Cosmic Grime, that breaks down and washes
    away for ever?
    
    Or does it go to some symbolic toxic waste disposal dump somewhere?
    
    You know what I'm saying?
    
    -Arthur
           
925.13WHEEL::DONHAMWaste is a terrible thing to mindFri Dec 02 1988 16:489
    
    re: .-1
    
    Energy is just energy; it dissipates into the cosmos.
    
    Ritual bathing is quite common in many cultures, isn't it? I'm thinking
    particularly of the Christian baptism and the Hebrew _mikvah_.
    
    Perry
925.14H+.....IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeSun Dec 04 1988 09:376
Just to add a potentially superfluous comment: I suppose all of you know the
*physical* effects of bathing/showering in that it takes/binds the negative
ions? When people say they feel more positive after a shower, this is
*literally* true!

Arie
925.15Regards to SymmetryELESYS::JASNIEWSKIAh, the road within withoutMon Dec 05 1988 08:4910
    
    	Hmmmm, I dont know which ions are which now...     
    
    One aspect of this that I've noticed (by accident) is that symmetry
    must be respected if one is to come out feeling balanced. For example,
    if I only washed one foot, the other would seem to feel "extremely
    jealous" and *I'd* feel very out of balance for the day as a result.
    
    	Joe Jas
     
925.16Transmute the Negativity!!SHRBIZ::WAINELindaMon Dec 05 1988 10:236
    Re: .12
    
    When I do my affirmations, I usually transmute the negativity into
    Christ-light....
    
    Linda
925.17Me tooNATASH::BUTCHARTIntergalactic ElephantThu Dec 08 1988 16:2518
    Art and Linda, 
    
    I too have a small ritual that I use to transform any negative energies
    into positive energies, also.  Art, I too wondered what happened to
    the gook that might come off my psyche/soul, and was as uncomfortable
    with the pat answers that it did no harm to anyone or anything as
    I was with the same assurances about the physical realm (and we now
    know just how dangerous that assumption is for the physical realm;
    Perry's analogy holds true here, too -- the physical realm doesn't
    care what chemicals we create -- but we sure should or we'll deal
    ourselves out of the game).

    So it made sense to me that if I was going to bathe away negativity,
    I had to invent a conversion process, if you will, that turned psychic
    garbage into psychi fertilizer.  Every time I bathe with psychic
    cleansing in mind, I use it.
    
    Marcia
925.18WaterCLUE::PAINTERPray for peace, people everywhere.Thu Dec 15 1988 12:308
    
    Lazaris mentioned at the session that 1989 would be a good year
    to get back in touch with the earth elements, even if it is only
    one of them.  Showering is one way to get in touch with water, 
    provided you are showering with this purpose in mind (as opposed 
    to the routine stumbling_out_of_bed_and_into_the_shower kind).
    
    Cindy 
925.19Tub of what?NEXUS::MORGANSnazzy Personal Name Upon RequestFri Dec 16 1988 01:591
    When summer comes along maybe I'll lay in a tub of mud... B^)
925.20StolichanyaEXIT26::SAARINENFri Dec 16 1988 12:087
    Cindy,
    
    Lazaris mention anything about Stolichanya Russian Vodka being
    an earth element? I hope to get in touch with that over 
    New Years...;-)
    
    -Arthur        
925.21Kampai!SCOPE::PAINTERPray for peace, people everywhere.Mon Dec 19 1988 21:2919
    
    Arthur,
    
    Um...well, no, Lazaris didn't mention vodka.  (;^)  One funny thing
    he did mention though was that we should get into the habit of
    discipline with regard to living, eating, etc., even if it is just
    Domino's pizza and beer.
    
    *Slight hesitation*
    
    ...light.   (Beer)  Audience laughter here.
    
    But one thing he did mention during the evening that only 3
    of the 4 earthquakes predicted last year actually happened.  Then
    I woke up the next day to hear the news of the quake in Armenia.....  
    I sort of stopped in my tracks when I heard that.
    
    Cindy
    
925.22BRRRRRMTADMS::DOO_SECURITYLewis Pusey -- 267-2211Sun Dec 25 1988 13:117
re showers;

		Actually, sometimes showers have been known to 
dissipate prana due to a lowering of attention by means of 
passive relaxation. But cold showers are GOOOOOd, Oh well, 
I suppose...
			Lew