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912.1 | | DECWET::MITCHELL | The Cosmic Anchovy | Mon Nov 14 1988 18:48 | 4 |
| Sounds like a rather boring state to be in.
John M.
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912.2 | A point of view from a different topping | CSC32::KACHELMYER | Dave Kachelmyer | Fri Nov 18 1988 19:25 | 11 |
| Re .1
Must have seen .0 from completely different viewpoints. I liked it so
much that I've posted it on the wall!
Sounded to me like a person who accomplishes what he incarnated to do
while the universe or higher self ensures he gets the resources he
needs. The kind of guy who doesn't get his bowels in an uproar over what
the rest of the incarnates are doing. :-)
Dave K.
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912.3 | Bravo! | BSS::BLAZEK | Dancing with My Self | Sat Nov 19 1988 00:44 | 4 |
| Dave, as always you have a wonderful way with words! =8-)
Carla
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912.4 | just a thought... | GLASS::WETHERINGTON | Their town, my town, Motown | Sat Nov 19 1988 17:52 | 12 |
| .1
>sounds like a rather boring state to be in.
Yes, from our current perspective and limited perception of All,
it might sound that way. "Heaven", "Nirvana"...a boring place, or a
place who's possibilities and parameters are so different from the way
we usually think from day to day, that our priorities themselves might
change or evolve based on new data and new information, new levels of
comprehension which might make for a whole different set of ground rules...
Doug
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912.5 | Boring? ... Perhaps more intense activity. | ATLAST::LACKEY | Paths are many, Truth is one. | Mon Nov 21 1988 09:24 | 5 |
| In addition to (.2) and (.4), we might also find that we have *more*
to do than ever before, because for the first time we would *know*
what to do.
Jeff
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912.6 | Agreed | MOSAIC::R_BROWN | We're from Brone III... | Mon Nov 21 1988 12:58 | 32 |
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I am in accord with .2, .4, and .5.
The "enlightened" state is certainly NOT boring, because:
a: the enlightened person's true purpose becomes clear and all
activities afterward are "in line" with that purpose. Because this
universe has so many different aspects, one's true purpose can be
anything from sitting and meditating on the glory of The One to being
a good software engineer to raising someone who eventually becomes a
world leader to actually becoming a world leader. Life goes on, even
after enlightenment.
b: A great deal of tension is removed from the individual who moves
beyond the need for money or power for its own sake. Any such things
sought by the enlightened person are sought for the sole purpose of
accomplishing that person's purpose. When one becomes free of the
desire for outside "objects" of happiness, one learns to enjoy life
more and to experience joy in their entire being, as opposed to
experiencing temporary satisfaction only in their senses or egos.
c: An enlightened person's perception of his/her life and the universe
is heightened. Realizations and revelations are common. These do not
end with enlightenment, but in fact they only begin. To become
enlightened is to accomplish much, but enlightenment is still only
one step in an ongoing growth process. A big step, granted, but a
step nonetheless.
I could name more reasons why enlightenment is anything but boring, but
I think the reasons I've mentioned above should suffice.
-Robert Brown III
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912.7 | FYA | SCOPE::PAINTER | Astral Travel Service | Mon Nov 21 1988 15:30 | 83 |
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The connection between software engineering and The One - it's here
somewhere. This is extracted from the Buddhism Conference.
===================================================================
New Book: The Tao of Programming
Some exerpts:
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The Tao gave birth to machine language.
Machine language gave birth to the assembler.
The assembler gave birth to the compiler.
Now there are ten thousand languages.
Each language has its purpose, however humble.
Each language expresses the yin and yang of software.
Each language has its place within the Tao.
But do not program in Cobol if you can avoid it.
================================================
A manager went to the master programmer and showed him the requirements
document for a new application. The manager asked the master: "How
long will it take to design this system if I assign five programmers
to it?"
"It will take one year," said the master promptly.
"But we need this system immediately or even sooner. How long will
it take if I assign ten programmers to it?"
The master programmer frowned. "In that case, it will take two years."
"And what if I assign 100 programmers to it?"
The master programmer shrugged. "Then the design will never be
completed," he said.
================================================
A novice asked the master: "I have a program that sometimes runs
and sometimes aborts. I have followed the rules of programming,
yet I am totally baffled. What is the reason for this?"
The master replied: "You are confused because you do not understand
Tao. Only a fool expects rational behavior from his fellow humans.
Why do you expect it from a machine that humans have constructed?
Computers simulate determinism; only Tao is perfect. The rules of
programming are transitory; only Tao is eternal. Therefore you must
contemplate Tao before you receive enlightenment."
"But how will I know when I have received enlightenment?" asked
the novice.
"Your program will then run correctly," replied the master.
================================================
A master was explaining the nature of the Tao to one of his novices.
"The Tao is embodied in all software -- regardless of how
insignificant," said the master.
"Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator?" asked the novice.
"It is," came the reply.
"Is the Tao in a video game?" continued the novice.
"It is even in a video game," said the master.
"And is the Tao in the DOS for a personal computer?"
The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. "The lesson
is over for today," he said.
================================================
The Tao of Programming
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912.8 | Some thoughts about "enlightenment" | ORION::HERBERT | Lovely to see you again my friend | Sun Dec 04 1988 16:42 | 31 |
| I think, for many of us, understanding a "totally" enlightened
state, is like a primeval man trying to understand a star in
the sky. There's so much we (many of us) can't know, because
of where we are now. Yet, it seems that we are often so
preoccupied with figuring it out, that we neglect to see and
understand what is in front of us (which may be the real
starting point of our paths to understanding).
The thing that bothers me about striving for the currently
popular views of enlightenment, is that people often cling to
the enlightenment path they've chosen, with such furosity, that
they forget the human side of things. They become frustrated
over "unenlightened" people and the world...and often seem to
think that their goal lies elsewhere. I don't think this is
enlightenment...I think it's self-deception.
What's wrong with being Human? Perhaps it's a really wonderful
state to be in, but we don't see it, because we're all so
unenlightened! ;^) Perhaps we could find great pleasure by
expanding on this human state, perfecting and understanding it;
not trying to escape or transcend it.
It also seems to me that "enlightenment" has many different
states. You may be more enlightened now than you were a year
ago. In another year, you may be more enlightened still.
Being enlightened may simply be the act of lightening up.
Therefore, there would be no state to reach or strive for...but
instead, a constant effort to stay lightened up -- right where
you are.
Jerri
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