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	Thanks for taking the time to put this in.

	Now if there were 170,000 American flags burning in Brazil,
	you would see real quick and strong action from Washington 
	indicating their outrage.

	Darryl

    In the Ayr plant, I've discovered that every employee drinks an
    average of 8 cups of coffee or tea per day - that's a record for
    the corporation I think, but incidental to my point.  Now if each
    coffee cup weighs 10 grammes and there are 1500 employees, simple
    arithmetic will tell you that we are responsible for the dumping
    of FORTY-TWO TONNES of non-biodegradable plastic every year.
    
    How do I get this message through to people who don't want to hear
    it?
    
    Brian

    
    
    Re: .4 Brian
    
    Why don't you try writing to Ken O.?  I'm serious.  It just might
    work.
    
    Carole

    To Brian,
    
    I can tell you what I, myself, did about it.  I keep a china coffee
    mug at work.  In fact, I now keep 4 mugs at work, and when people
    arrive for meetings, I offer them coffee -- and also a selection
    of mugs.  I also carry a mug in my car, so that when going to offsite
    meetings, I bring the mug in and use it to get any coffee or other
    beverage.  The response has been uniformly cordial.  When people
    express surprise, pleasure, amusement, etc. at these gestures, I
    make light of it, but conversationally list among my reasons for
    doing so (being gracious, get more coffee this way, etc.) that this
    is one way I work to reduce the amount of plastic waste.  I say,
    simply: "It makes me feel good to help in a practical fashion."
    
    How 'bout it, DEJAVUers?  How many of you caffeine lovers keep a
    spare mug at work?

    I also keep my own silverware and small dishes in my desk, so that
    I can reduce the amount of cafeteria waste (here in the U.S., styrofoam
    trays, plates and plastic implements are the norm); I also often
    brown-bag it, which helps save me money and often gives me better
    food anyway.
    
    My point is: writing K.O. is probably a dynamite idea.  But we, as
    individuals, here, today, even-as-we-speak, can be part of an actual
    solution!  This, my friends, is power of the first order.  
    
    (Hmm...should this be cross-posted in the Group Dynamics note?
    Dave and Bill, place this in that note if you see fit.)
    
    Marcia

    
    
    I use my own coffee mug.  It has to have the appropriate picture
    or logo on it, matching my mood-of-the-day.  Look out when I'm
    drinking coffee out of my 'wanton hussy' cup!!  :-)
    
    Deb
           
    

    Deb,
    
    Ha ha ha, what a great idea!  I wonder what would happen if I took
    the "WH" mug to a client meeting, tho...?
    
    Marcia The Mugger

    Re the last few
    
    Great idea to keep your own mug in the office. There is ONE place
    in Ayr where you can get coffee without it pouring out of a machine
    into a plastic cup so it's worth it to me to take those extra minutes
    to walk there.  Maybe it'll even catch on - lead by example (my
    wife of 6 months has got me off red meat completely and is working
    on the rest!!!).
    
    It'd be interesting to me to do a survey of the whole of Digital
    to see just what we do throw away - bet no-one's ever done it -
    and then get that info to K.O.  In the meantime maybe a letter about
    our 42 tonnes may get the ball rolling.
    
    Brian

    
    I noticed a desk lamp in the trash once and the person who had put
    it in the trash was walking away.  I asked him what was wrong with
    the lamp and he said that it was 'broken'.  Noticing a big chunk
    of plastic out of the light cover, I quickly asked him if it worked
    OK.  He said 'yes'.  So I took it back out of the trash, went to
    Facilities and they found another cover for it.  *Sigh*.
    
    I'm thinking of switching from buying milk in the plastic jugs to
    milk in the paper boxes, and also having a water bubbler at home
    instead of bringing home the plastic gallons of water.
                                                     
    We can make a difference by doing the little things.
    
    When Mother Teresa was asked how one person could contribute to
    world peace, her reply was "Go home and love your family."
    
    Cindy
                                                              

Boston Globe Thursday October 13, 1988

	Brazil, under fire, vows to protect Amazon area

  SAO PAULO - Brazil, which has a third of the world's rain forests, yesterday
said it would act to protect the Amazon region after a international outcry
over the rapid destruction of the region.  President Jose Sarney said the
government was restrictiong official subsidies for agriculture in the region,
where farmers have started fires on such a large scale that scientists are
worried about the effects on the global climate.

  In his first televised speech devoted to the environment, Sarney also
announced a ban on the export of logs and said all agricultural and industrial
projects would in future be subject to rigorous environmental controls.
"Our forests, our rivers, our fauna and flora are part of the national
Brazilian patrimony," and inheritance "which we cannot allow to disintegrate,"
he said.

  Brazil's best-known ecological activist, Jose Lutzenberger, said on
television yesterday:  "If we destroy Amazonia we are destroying the climate
of the planet."  This year an area the size of West Germany is expected to go
up in flames.  Scientists say fires in the vast region are producing one-tenth
of the carbon dioxide rising into the atmosphere.  Carbon dioxide is the
principal component of the greenhouse effect believed to be warming the earth's
climate.

  The government measures, which include establishing six working groups,
were clearly a response to a wave of strong foreign criticism over Brazil's
treatment of the forests and its Indian inhabitants, many scientists and
environmentalists said.  Fabio Feldmann, the lone congressman elected on an
environmental ticket, said pressures from the World Bank and the Internation
Monetary Fund, major lenders to Brazil, had played a role in persuading the
government to act.  "The authorities are understanding for the first time that
the criticisms are not empty criticisms.  This is very important," Aziz
Ab-Saber, a brazilian scientist, said in an interview.

  Sarney said nothing about new funding for environmental protection in
Amazonia and some ecologists said the government has yet to show it is truly
committed to saving the forests.  The Brazilian Institute of Forest
Development, entrusted with protecting the country's flora and fauna, is
underfunded and understaffed.  Nor did the president address the problem of
mercury pollution in Amazonia. Hundreds of thousands of prospectors are using
mercury to seperate gold from ore and are poisoning rivers throughout the
Amazon basin.

  Sarney defended the government's record on Indian rights,  saying 10 percent
of national territory has been given over to Indian reserves and Brazilian
Indians had far more land per person than those in the United States.  Survival
International, a London-based group, has been picketing Brazilian embassies in
a dozen countries this week and has accused Brazil of genocide in its treatment
of the Yanomani Indians in the northern rain forests, whose land has been
overrun this year by gold miners.  Sarney said the government had a special
concern for the Yanomani.  "The position of the government is firm and hard in
defense of the lands of the Yanomani from the gold prospectors." he told
foreign journalists yesterday.

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CALL TO ALL CONCERNED INHABITANTS OF PLANET EARTH....

  - As you may know, the world's tropical rainforests are being destroyed

at a catastrophic rate.  This summer alone, in Brazil alone, 77,000 square

miles of rainforest were observed burning by LANDSAT and other sattelites.

By way of comparison, Massachusetts is just over 8,000 square miles in size.

This burning alone was responsible for 10% of ALL carbon dioxide pollution

added to the atmosphere this year, rapidly accellerating the greenhouse

effect.  The WORLD BANK has had a big hand in funding this and other types

of rainforest destruction, with devastating consequences for both the 

environment and the indigenous indian tribes who had previously lived in

harmony with their bountiful but fragile jungle.  NOW, the WORLD BANK wants

to loan BRAZIL $500,000,000.00 (thats FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS) so that

BRAZIL can CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE RAINFORESTS by BUILDING A HUGE DAM!!!

The history of dam loans to BRAZIL is an ecological and economic nightmare.

This loan is part of the POWER SECTOR II LOAN and the part specifically

objected to is the ALTIMARA HYDRO project for the KARAROA DAM on the XINGU

RIVER (pronounced zing-oo).  Not only would this project FLOOD 866 SQUARE

MILES OF PRISTINE RAINFOREST but it would also PERMANENTLY DESTROY TWO

INDIGENOUS INDIAN TRIBES!!!  This disruption of these indigenous tribes

causes the loan to VIOLATE THE WORLD BANK'S OWN ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA!!!

WE MUST OBJECT AND OBJECT LOUDLY!!!!  The indians who live in the area

sent their two leaders KUBEI & PAYAKAN to Washington DC to speak with

BARBAR CONABLE, the PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK.  Upon return to BRAZIL

they were ARRESTED AND ARE CURRENTLY BEING HELD WITHOUT BAIL AS "FOREIGNERS"

"INTERFERING WITH BRAZIL'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS".  THEY ARE NOT EVEN RECOGNIZED

AS CITIZENS OF BRAZIL EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE THERE!!!!!  This message is 

being relayed by thousands of people throughout the world right now and

it affords a perfect opportunity to press for justice and preservation of

our fragile planet.  CALL BARBAR CONABLE!!!  Tell him to cancel the POWER

SECTOR II LOAN to BRAZIL.  Better yet, WRITE TO HIM!!!  No positive change

has ever been caused except by grass roots pressure on those who make the

decisions.  We can change the course of human events.  We CAN prevent this

stupid and destructive loan from taking place.  Post this notice, tell your

friends, talk about it over dinner, we only have until DECEMBER 12, 1988.

That is the day of the WORLD BANK VOTES on this loan.  We can notify many

people by then, especially if everyone tells their friends, who then tell

their friends, and so on, and so on...

  PLEASE HELP!  KUBEI, PAYAKAN, and MOTHER EARTH WILL THANK YOU!!

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Call or write:	Pres. BARBAR CONABLE
		WORLD BANK
		1818 H St. S.W.
		Washington, DC  20433

		(202) 477-1234
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         I agree that these are serious issues and I support the
    efforts made to prevent an unalterable choice for destruction,
    etc.  While I do, however, I wish to point out that there are
    other issues nearly as important, but not nearly so difficult
    to maintain.  One of these is what I wish to address here.
         Saturday I attended a session of a public showing concerned
    with preserving our Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.
    I will try to summarize this situation briefly.  There is a 
    portion of land, 125 miles across, along Alaska's northern coast that
    has heretofore been unspoiled.  Now, however, after eight years
    as designated wilderness, Congress stands on the brink of turning
    it over to full-scale oil and gas development, at the urging of
    Secretary of the Interior Hodel.  The land, incidentally, has been
    labeled as the "1002" area.  The impact:  probable severe damage
    to the Porcupine caribou herd, more than 200,000 animals that 
    give birth to their calves every spring on the coastal plane.
    These are also the mainstay of the Inupiat Indians, which would
    be severely affected.  More insiduous are the further repercussions
    to the dozens of other animals who use these planes as well as
    other tribes who currently hunt and fish the area.
         What is the impact of an EXPLORATORY oil well?  35,000 cubic
    yards of gravel to be excavated, 15,000,000 gallons of fresh water
    (not abundant, especially in winter) which drys up the tundra ponds
    and shallow rivers, for each well (100 are estimated.)  Once in
    production, we can expect the following results (based on the
    past 20 years in Alaska):  Poor enforcement of violations of
    pollution, etc. which numbered 521 in 1985 alone (accounting for
    82,000 gallons) estimated as 17,000 total since 1973.  If each
    spill is 150 gallons each, that would mean 2.5 million gallons
    have been spilled since then.  There is no recovery of the tundra
    in the areas where the oil has saturated the soil.  Additionally,
    500-600 wells currently operate in the north slope.  EACH of these
    generates 840,000 gallons of waste each year which includes
    arsenic, manganese, chromium, lead, copper and aromatic hydrocarbons
    and benzene.  In 1984, the oil industry dumped 58,000,000 gallons
    of this stuff onto the tundra.  The list goes on and on.  
         In any case, is it worth it?  This land area represents less
    than 3% of the area that the oil industry already has access to
    and the total of the oil from this 1002 area would only give the
    U.S. six months of fossil fuel.  Is it worth it?  Someone pointed
    out that just using a canvas bag for shopping instead of paper
    or plastic (by the 250 million of us) would eliminate the need
    for this oil.  We don't need this that badly.  And we don't have
    to go to Brazil to preserve our planet.  Let us show the world
    that we do somethings by example and not by dictate for others.
    When the new Congress convenes, the bills currently in both
    the House and the Senate will be renumbered.  They were known
    as HR 39 (introduced by Rep. Morris Udall and Rep. Bill Green)
    and S1804 (introduced by Sen. Will Roth and Sen. Bill Bradley.)
    In any case, as with other legislation, the heaviest impact
    we have, apparently, is personal letter-writing (NOT type-written,
    but long-hand.)  So, if any of this seems like a worthwhile cause
    to you, offer your support to protecting this last remaining 
    unprotected wilderness in the U.S.
         "Thank you for your support."
    
    Frederick
                          
    

Barber Conable used to be a U.S. Rep. from NY state, if my memory
serves me right.  Perhaps writing him at his home address might
be effective.
							paul

    
    
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